Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#152550 Feb 8, 2013
The mental state of these "atheists", their detachment from reality and creating their own version is really on the sad side.

You have to laugh at them and play along with their fantasies to keep from getting so depressed.

They love the interaction. Kind of a fuzzy grounding, but keeps them from getting too lost.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#152551 Feb 8, 2013
The irrationality exhibited by these Topix atheist regarding the definition of atheist is the real indicator of their mental state. They refute long established definitions. There appears to be some kneejerk reaction to being judged or classified in some group, though they don't hesitate to do it to everyone that disagrees with them, which is another telling point. If you don't agree with them exactly, then you are lumped into one great big group oppressing them.

There are some serious mental issues among them. The scary part is they are empowered to vote and determine the destiny of man, while their issues can be manipulated by others with axes to grind.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#152552 Feb 8, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
their detachment from reality and creating their own version is really on the sad side. You have to laugh at them and play along with their fantasies to keep from getting so depressed. They love the interaction. Kind of a fuzzy grounding, but keeps them from getting too lost.
You're talking about religious people and their bibull right? LOL... OK, that's rhetorical.
Imhotep

United States

#152553 Feb 8, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
<quoted text>
You forget the Conservative version of the Bible --
"You were hungry and thirsty, so I eliminated funding for Meals on Wheels and food banks. You were a stranger, so I vilified you and demanded that you be deported. You were naked, so I called you an evil Liberal who hates Conservative family values. You were sick, so I repealed your only hope for health care. You were in prison, so I tortured you."
The Bible... Unfit for children to read.
Seldom,if ever, read by the faithful.

Modern scholarship exposes the nonsense of the Bible as never before. The men who wrote these gospels, knew nothing of science and rationality. They could not anticipate the skills and insights which would be brought to bear on their silly fantasy far into the future.

Until recent times, the Bible was a forbidden book, denied to all but the clergy. In the vast compendium of nonsense, selectively read in Latin to illiterate peasantry, who would have noticed the myriad inconsistencies, contradictions and absurdities?
Atheist Silurist

Portadown, UK

#152554 Feb 8, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
The irrationality exhibited by these Topix atheist regarding the definition of atheist is the real indicator of their mental state. They refute long established definitions. There appears to be some kneejerk reaction to being judged or classified in some group, though they don't hesitate to do it to everyone that disagrees with them, which is another telling point. If you don't agree with them exactly, then you are lumped into one great big group oppressing them.
There are some serious mental issues among them. The scary part is they are empowered to vote and determine the destiny of man, while their issues can be manipulated by others with axes to grind.
How would you define a person that doesn't swallow childish superstitious bollocks like religious myths and fables?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#152555 Feb 8, 2013
The Topix atheist pattern of demonizing the more than overwhelming majority of the world's belief systems, their special knowledge and insight coupled with their need to proselytize, while doing that demonizing, along with logical thinking they present not of the caliber they advertise, their almost universal reading the same identical script in their talking points, and propensity to be obnoxious rather than reasoned and rational is downright unsettling. Perhaps it is the concentration of them on forums like this that magnifies the threat they are.

Weird.

I think I may indulge myself and have a nightmare where they take over the world.
Atheist Silurist

Portadown, UK

#152556 Feb 8, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
The Bible... Unfit for children to read.
Seldom,if ever, read by the faithful.
Modern scholarship exposes the nonsense of the Bible as never before. The men who wrote these gospels, knew nothing of science and rationality. They could not anticipate the skills and insights which would be brought to bear on their silly fantasy far into the future.
Until recent times, the Bible was a forbidden book, denied to all but the clergy. In the vast compendium of nonsense, selectively read in Latin to illiterate peasantry, who would have noticed the myriad inconsistencies, contradictions and absurdities?
The first hand-written English language Bible manuscripts were produced in the 1380's AD by John Wycliffe, an Oxford professor, scholar, and theologian. Wycliffe,(also spelled Wycliff & Wyclif), was well-known throughout Europe for his opposition to the teaching of the organized Church, which he believed to be contrary to the Bible. With the help of his followers, called the Lollards, and his assistant Purvey, and many other faithful scribes, Wycliffe produced dozens of English language manuscript copies of the scriptures. They were translated out of the Latin Vulgate, which was the only source text available to Wycliffe. The Pope was so infuriated by his teachings and his translation of the Bible into English, that 44 years after Wycliffe had died, he ordered the bones to be dug-up, crushed, and scattered in the river!

One of Wycliffes followers, John Hus, actively promoted Wycliffes ideas: that people should be permitted to read the Bible in their own language, and they should oppose the tyranny of the Roman church that threatened anyone possessing a non-Latin Bible with execution. Hus was burned at the stake in 1415, with Wycliffes manuscript Bibles used as kindling for the fire.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#152557 Feb 8, 2013
tabby wrote:
The conflict over the principles of evolution has become a religious war. But initiated by the evolutionary side of the argument. It really is no longer about scientific investigation. It's about the evolutionist demonizing any opposing view. Why?
Because if they allow one aspect of their theory to be closely scrutinized it all falls down like a house of cards. Why do you suppose evolutionists run from questions about the very foundation of their belief; How do we get from the inorganic world to the world of the cell? How did the non-living become the living? How can there be a Darwinian theory about life without a theory of how that life began? Therefore, the use of hyperbole and ad hominem attacks.
Anthropologists are concerned about where you came from.

Evolution doesn't go backwards.

"Ralph hides in the jungle, worrying about his wounds and the inhuman violence into which the boys on the island have devolved. He thinks about Simon and Piggy and realizes that civilization is now impossible among the boys. Ralph, who is not far from the Castle Rock, thinks he sees Bill in the distance. He concludes that the boy is not Bill-at least not any more. This boy is a savage, entirely different from the boy in shorts and shirt he once knew. Ralph is certain that Jack will never leave him alone. Noticing the Lord of the Flies, now just a skull with the skin and meat eaten away, Ralph decides to fight back. He knocks the skull from the stick, which he takes, intending to use it as a spear. From a distance, Ralph can still make out the boys' chant: "Kill the beast. Cut his throat. Spill his blood."" ~ William Golding

Stop worrying about where you came from and start thinking about where you're going.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#152558 Feb 8, 2013
Atheist Silurist wrote:
<quoted text>
How would you define a person that doesn't swallow childish superstitious bollocks like religious myths and fables?
Why do you describe yourself as atheist?

And then ask a stupid question like that?

"Atheism requires as much faith as religion?"

That is the title of this forum. That is also the question. Here is another one.

Do you have faith your lack of belief in superstitions and etc is correct? That can also be phrased do you believe your lack of belief is correct.

Or are you just a great big zero or question mark passing judgments on the beliefs of others?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#152559 Feb 8, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>You're talking about religious people and their bibull right? LOL... OK, that's rhetorical.
No.

I was talking about you.
Atheist Silurist

Portadown, UK

#152560 Feb 8, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
I think I may indulge myself and have a nightmare where they take over the world.
Better to have Islam take over the world,right?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#152561 Feb 8, 2013
The Topix atheist battle cry.

"Today Topix, tomorrow the world!"

May I suggest you all get together and devise a battle plan?

Any one of these would be a suitable place to meet. The facilities should meet your needs.

http://health.usnews.com/best-hospitals/ranki...

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#152562 Feb 8, 2013
Atheist Silurist wrote:
<quoted text>
Better to have Islam take over the world,right?
You are helping them.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#152563 Feb 8, 2013
Goodnight, everyone. Sane and insane.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#152564 Feb 8, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
This has been explained to the mouth breather repeatedly. All he can do in this case is steal what Derek spammed and repost it hundreds of times. This is why he is unable to answer any questions or points you make shredding it factually.
Rather pathetic actually.
<quoted text>
The way in which the theist continually asserts that view goes beyond ignorance. I hesitate to accuse people of lying in general, as a matter of fact you can search my posts and you'll see I almost never use the word, even in an unrelated to an individual - sense.

But on this issue and in the way the word is purposefully and wrongly defined, I have to think they are intentionally lying.

I notice they rarely supply complete definitions, but that's to be expected, since most are incomplete in the religion they claim to follow, too.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#152565 Feb 8, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes it is
It's a religion
Religion
Synonyms: credo, creed, cult, FAITH, persuasion
faith\ˈfāth\
noun
b (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof
Atheism
Belief that there is no Deity or Deities.
Hence - Atheism = Religion
You are purposefully ignorant, to do so is a lie.
tabby

Warrensburg, MO

#152566 Feb 8, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Anthropologists are concerned about where you came from.
Evolution doesn't go backwards.
"Ralph hides in the jungle, worrying about his wounds and the inhuman violence into which the boys on the island have devolved. He thinks about Simon and Piggy and realizes that civilization is now impossible among the boys. Ralph, who is not far from the Castle Rock, thinks he sees Bill in the distance. He concludes that the boy is not Bill-at least not any more. This boy is a savage, entirely different from the boy in shorts and shirt he once knew. Ralph is certain that Jack will never leave him alone. Noticing the Lord of the Flies, now just a skull with the skin and meat eaten away, Ralph decides to fight back. He knocks the skull from the stick, which he takes, intending to use it as a spear. From a distance, Ralph can still make out the boys' chant: "Kill the beast. Cut his throat. Spill his blood."" ~ William Golding
Stop worrying about where you came from and start thinking about where you're going.
This hill, though high, I covet to ascend;
The difficulty will not me offend.
For I perceive the way to life lies here.
Come, pluck up, heart; let's neither faint nor fear.
Better, though difficult, the right way to go,
Than wrong, though easy, where the end is woe.
- John Bunyan

"The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going; so
is everyone who is born of the Spirit.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#152567 Feb 8, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Goodnight, everyone. Sane and insane.
Good night from the sane.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#152568 Feb 8, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Goodnight, everyone. Sane and insane.
There are two of you?

You should let Sane post more often.
Imhotep

United States

#152569 Feb 8, 2013
Atheist Silurist wrote:
<quoted text>
The first hand-written English language Bible manuscripts were produced in the 1380's AD by John Wycliffe, an Oxford professor, scholar, and theologian. Wycliffe,(also spelled Wycliff & Wyclif), was well-known throughout Europe for his opposition to the teaching of the organized Church, which he believed to be contrary to the Bible. With the help of his followers, called the Lollards, and his assistant Purvey, and many other faithful scribes, Wycliffe produced dozens of English language manuscript copies of the scriptures. They were translated out of the Latin Vulgate, which was the only source text available to Wycliffe. The Pope was so infuriated by his teachings and his translation of the Bible into English, that 44 years after Wycliffe had died, he ordered the bones to be dug-up, crushed, and scattered in the river!
One of Wycliffes followers, John Hus, actively promoted Wycliffes ideas: that people should be permitted to read the Bible in their own language, and they should oppose the tyranny of the Roman church that threatened anyone possessing a non-Latin Bible with execution. Hus was burned at the stake in 1415, with Wycliffes manuscript Bibles used as kindling for the fire.
Interesting

These 'writers' were con men of their time and unable to anticipate mass literacy, the printing press, computers or the internet.

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