Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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Since: May 09

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#152520 Feb 8, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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It's a religion.
Religion
Synonyms: credo, creed, cult, FAITH, persuasion
faith\ˈfāth\
noun
b (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof
Atheism
Belief that there is no Deity or Deities.
Hence - Atheism = Religion
Lets see.

Noun: religion
1. A strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny
2. An institution to express belief in a divine power
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Noun: faith
1. A strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny
2. Complete confidence in a person or plan etc
3. An institution to express belief in a divine power
4. Loyalty or allegiance to a cause or a person
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Noun: atheism
1. The doctrine or belief that there is no God
2. A lack of belief in the existence of God or gods
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Nope. It isn't a religion.

Since: Dec 11

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#152521 Feb 8, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a religion.
Religion
Synonyms: credo, creed, cult, FAITH, persuasion
faith\ˈfāth\
noun
b (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof
Atheism
Belief that there is no Deity or Deities.
Hence - Atheism = Religion
What is this, the transitive property of definition synonyms?

Trying to convince your wife to see an action movie is persuasion.
Persuasion is a synonym of religion.
Thus, trying to convince your wife to see an action movie is a religion.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#152522 Feb 8, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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As long as you're measuring it in Fahrenheit.
Yes, or we'd have to call it the Lake of Fire.

Since: Apr 12

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#152523 Feb 8, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>Still supporting that no belief is a belief huh?
You may be the least intelligent specimen of all hominids.
But do you have to blare it out so brazen?
If stupid were a crime.....
It is a believe. You are wording it wrong.

athe·ist\ˈā-thē-ist\
noun
: one who believes that there is no deity

One who "BELIEVES" That's a positive assertion. Not that lack of it.

Agnostic is the absence of a believe.

There is a difference that's why there are two different words. That's why every survey has them listed separate.
That's why the dictionary list both word and list there definition as listed above.

Atheist seem to have to lie about every thing including what their religious name means.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#152524 Feb 8, 2013
They would have to be. Like him condemning people to hell for not believing in Yahweh/Jesus them claiming he is a deist.

Lmfao classic!
Aerobatty wrote:
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Dave's delusions are complete.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#152525 Feb 8, 2013
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A Republican bill that would have paved the way for creationism to be taught in Colorado schools as well as encouraged teachers to deny the science of climate change was killed in committee on Monday, as expected.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#152526 Feb 8, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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I can't see stars in the detail I used to, and at night it is important for me to limit my exposure upwards. Fine during the day, I blend into the haze. But night is not my best time for me to sit out in the open. Just a simple misunderstanding, really. We could talk about it, but they tend to get nervous and over reactive.
103 is perfect for long soaks. Love it here during the winter and the steam rises, lit by the sunlight coming through the windows and skylight.
Ever been to those natural hot springs? They have some HOT water in some of those. Pagosa Springs, CO went up to 108 or 110 in one of them. That can kill you after a long sit and you get up. Set in 106 for about 45 minutes at Ojo Caliente in NM. Thought I would pass out and die when I got out. Sure lowers that blood pressure. Mine is low to begin with.
104 is my max. They tell me protein denatures at higher temps, whatever that means.

I was at one of those natural hot springs, but I can't remember where it was. It was on a hillside, and they had pools scattered about, at different temperatures. Now I'm driving myself crazy trying to remember where it was.

One nice thing about my hot tub--it heats up very quickly, I have a heater pump that's for a small pool.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#152527 Feb 8, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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It is a believe. You are wording it wrong.
athe·ist\ˈā-thē-ist\
noun
: one who believes that there is no deity
One who "BELIEVES" That's a positive assertion. Not that lack of it.
Agnostic is the absence of a believe.
There is a difference that's why there are two different words. That's why every survey has them listed separate.
That's why the dictionary list both word and list there definition as listed above.
Atheist seem to have to lie about every thing including what their religious name means.
You believe there is a god, the atheist does not believe.

What part of this are you confused about?

The believing part.

No Lango, sorry about your luck...but the atheist does not believe.

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#152528 Feb 8, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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You keep claiming you have purpose and destiny as an atheist.
How do you account for those concepts when you are just a chemical fizz?
I didn't claim that I had those things "as an atheist" - I have them as a human being.

Again, we're not all as weak as you that we have do define ourselves by our views on religion. You really should expand your horizons.

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#152529 Feb 8, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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There is plenty of empirical evidence, recorded in history.
Also the evidence is within you and around you, in all the laws that govern mind and matter.
The problem is not evidence, the problem is tha you do not want to be led down the path the evidence provides.
So you suppress the truth, so that you can continue in sin.
Actually, if there were evidence of any god's existence, it would be shown. It would be tested. It would be verified.

Never happened, never will.

Since: Dec 12

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#152530 Feb 8, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
I dont remember the crusades. Im not saying it didnt happen its just I dont have any interest in that time and place in history.
Of course not. Christians killed over 200,000 innocent people, and we haven't even brought up other senseless deaths at the hands of christians like the 125,000 persons who suffered during the Inquisition. Religion is a parasite on humanity. Enjoy.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#152531 Feb 8, 2013
This has been explained to the mouth breather repeatedly. All he can do in this case is steal what Derek spammed and repost it hundreds of times. This is why he is unable to answer any questions or points you make shredding it factually.

Rather pathetic actually.
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>Lets see.
Noun: religion
1. A strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny
2. An institution to express belief in a divine power
WordWeb Pro 6.0
Noun: faith
1. A strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny
2. Complete confidence in a person or plan etc
3. An institution to express belief in a divine power
4. Loyalty or allegiance to a cause or a person
WordWeb Pro 6.0
Noun: atheism
1. The doctrine or belief that there is no God
2. A lack of belief in the existence of God or gods
WordWeb Pro 6.0
Nope. It isn't a religion.

“Michin yeoja”

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#152532 Feb 8, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Yes, or we'd have to call it the Lake of Fire.
Bring to a boil. Cover and simmer for 15 minutes. Remove from heat. Uncover and let stand for 5 minutes. The sauce will thicken as it cools.

Christianity or Hamburger Helper?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#152533 Feb 8, 2013
I wonder how many hundreds of times you will repost this without a shred of reason why it is incorrect?

I know you are jealous but hey instead of making yourself look like a jackass go out and do some charity work yourself.
Langoliers wrote:
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Givemeliberty wrote:
I am especially proud of my volunteer work and donations to the humanist cause. Every year I go to the Philippines and spend thousands on food,water, clothing and medicine for the needy there. After a horrific typhoon and flooding there I was there amongst others 14 hours a day handing out supplies, giving life saving injections and treatments to those who lost their home. I stood and watched as homeless children lined up easily 3 miles deep for a package of crackers sandwich fruit and bottle of water. Unwanted children who were born because the Christian ran theocracy light government makes it nearly impossible for a woman to obtain birth control. My wife is in pre-med classes and wants to practice medicine there free to help those poor children. Here in the states I collect donations for running in marathons with the money going to children's charities and cancer or HIV awareness programs.
I have seen first hand time and time again the damage and heart breaking situations brought on by theists. The same theists who come crawling to us to help fix their mess! Oh but while we are fixing it are we thanked? Nope. We barely get the figurative broom in hand and they are shrieking at us for not believing in their imaginary friend.
Honor? I guess it is a relative term. The dozen of urban low income students I assist for free with their biology and pharmaceutical homework at two different colleges locally would probably say good ole KJ is an alright dude.
Now if coming on topix and giving the theists a little taste of backbone, the theists who try to intimidate and silence non believers because they think we should all be meek and humble and tolerate their abuse and repeated logical fallacies makes me vile, Without reason, Disrespectful, In someone's opinion? So be it, hmmm I will chuckle about how vile And disrespectful I am Friday at U of L for the 6 hours I am assisting the students there as a volunteer. Or perhaps this summer as I am passing out thousands of dollars worth of free medicine and other essentials trying to save some more homeless from dying. Yes I was walking by a group of people there and they were huddled together praying loudly and crying. I looked in and a young girl was on the ground dying of dehydration. Instead of getting her water and rushing her to the hospital they stood there holding hands and praying! I grabbed my cell phone and called for an ambulance and started trying to get her to drink. Slowly she sipped the water as the praying continued. The ambulance came after almost an hour and reluctantly took her to the hospital, the paramedic said she was good as dead and best leave it in the hands of Jesus same thing the crowd thought. She died 18 hours later. They didn't even know her name and couldn't figure it out.
I guess I'll somehow deal with being called disrespectful.
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"I semi-retired except for collecting and inspecting my rental properties. I live comfortably off my stock dividends, porn sites I own, early retirement from work and rental properties here in the states and in the Philippines. "
OMG. It's getting better all the time!!!
You're retired except for Porn and your wife is still in school!
Liberty wrote:
I am a 32 year old multi-racial man with a Johnson bigger than anyone in your family.
Baaaaahaaaaaahaaaaa
Please stop!!!!
Lol BAAAAAHAAAAHAAAAA !!!!

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#152534 Feb 8, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Imagine if we knew exactly what you were talking about.
Now that would be funny!
SHUP, lol!

I just can't stop laughing when Catcher picks faults outta Eagle's posts. It's too funny!

Liberty guy taught me breathing technique that comes in handy in those kinda situations, u know, when u laugh too much and u can't breathe properly.

Since: Apr 12

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#152535 Feb 8, 2013
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>Lets see.

Noun: religion
1. A strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny
2. An institution to express belief in a divine power
WordWeb Pro 6.0

Noun: faith
1. A strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny
2. Complete confidence in a person or plan etc
3. An institution to express belief in a divine power
4. Loyalty or allegiance to a cause or a person
WordWeb Pro 6.0

Noun: atheism
1. The doctrine or belief that there is no God
2. A lack of belief in the existence of God or gods
WordWeb Pro 6.0

Nope. It isn't a religion.
Yes it is

It's a religion

Religion
Synonyms: credo, creed, cult, FAITH, persuasion
faith\ˈfāth\
noun
b (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof

Atheism
Belief that there is no Deity or Deities.

Hence - Atheism = Religion

Since: Apr 12

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#152536 Feb 8, 2013
The_Box wrote:
<quoted text>What is this, the transitive property of definition synonyms?

Trying to convince your wife to see an action movie is persuasion.
Persuasion is a synonym of religion.
Thus, trying to convince your wife to see an action movie is a religion.
I'll stay away from action movies!

:-)

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#152537 Feb 8, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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104 is my max. They tell me protein denatures at higher temps, whatever that means.
I was at one of those natural hot springs, but I can't remember where it was. It was on a hillside, and they had pools scattered about, at different temperatures. Now I'm driving myself crazy trying to remember where it was.
One nice thing about my hot tub--it heats up very quickly, I have a heater pump that's for a small pool.
The pools at Ojo Caliente had different mineral baths, too. Iron, arsenic, and others. Plus private pools.

Geronimo used to hang out in that area with his buds.

Kind of an out of the way area.

Truth or Consequences, NM was originally named Hot Springs. They have those there, too.

I need to get one of those type heaters.

Since: Apr 12

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#152538 Feb 8, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>You believe there is a god, the atheist does not believe.

What part of this are you confused about?

The believing part.

No Lango, sorry about your luck...but the atheist does not believe.
Do You believe there is no God or gods?

If you answer no then why do you attack Theists and call their faith a myth? You do this because you do have a positive assertion that there is no God or gods.
The facts are posted all over these threads by atheist and you with a positive assertion that there is no such thing as a God or gods.


Sorry but you lose.

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#152539 Feb 8, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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There is plenty of empirical evidence, recorded in history.
Also the evidence is within you and around you, in all the laws that govern mind and matter.
The problem is not evidence, the problem is tha you do not want to be led down the path the evidence provides.
So you suppress the truth, so that you can continue in sin.
Sin is a man made concept used to control people.

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