Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#152425 Feb 8, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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But then you have to account for logical mathematics...
You see, you cannot escape the atheistic predicament.
Atheism cannot account for any transcendent law, that is self evident in the universe.
You keep making stuff up.

"Transcendence" refers to the aspect of God's nature and power which is wholly independent of (and removed from) the material universe.

You have yet to prove that the concept of "independent / removed / outside the universe" is even meaningful possible. Do that and then you can work on what evidence you have of any intelligence behind it.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#152426 Feb 8, 2013
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>Love.

1. Love God - your Creator.
2. Love your neighbour - His Creation.
Don't need god for that.

And love isn't absolute.
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#152427 Feb 8, 2013
It's not a false claim.~40% of fertilised eggs don't make it.
mtimber wrote:
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And why would that be wrong,(leaving aside the falsity of the claim), in your worldview?

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#152428 Feb 8, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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Atheism:
"The fool says in his heart, there is no God."
whoever says,‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#152429 Feb 8, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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So "anything goes" is your standard of morality?
nope.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#152430 Feb 8, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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First of all, I do not accept his anti-theistic interprestion.
Second, on what basis, in his worldview, does he offer the moral outrage that he presents?
Humanism. No deity required.

Since: Sep 08

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#152431 Feb 8, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text> Humanism. No deity required.
What is humanism?

What is humanist, and what is not?

What did it arise from? How did it come into being?

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#152432 Feb 8, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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What is humanism?
What is humanist, and what is not?
What did it arise from? How did it come into being?
" http://lmgtfy.com/... ;

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#152433 Feb 8, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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What is humanism?
What is humanist, and what is not?
What did it arise from? How did it come into being?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanism

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#152434 Feb 8, 2013
geeez, Dave
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#152435 Feb 8, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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What is humanism?
What is humanist, and what is not?
What did it arise from? How did it come into being?
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/humanism
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#152436 Feb 8, 2013

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#152437 Feb 8, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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" http://lmgtfy.com/... ;
You can't do it in your own words?

Why am I not surprised?
Turkey

Oswego, NY

#152438 Feb 8, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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No, Eagle.
You're the one who is despicable. Asqueroso, as they say where I come from.
You believe your god allowed for the Holocaust, so there could be an Israel.
Filthy stuff, dude.
The douche cant handle the truth, poor bendayho you

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#152439 Feb 8, 2013
scaritual wrote:
You can't define it for yourself?

Since: Sep 08

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#152440 Feb 8, 2013
See all the little clones come up with what someone else has defined for them?

But evidently they don't understand just what it is.

Parrots and monkys.

Since: Oct 12

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#152441 Feb 8, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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Atheism:
"The fool says in his heart, there is no God."
Atheists say with their tongue that there is no God, u can't know what their heart says.

How many religious people say they love God from their mouths but they kill their neighbour? Get jealous of their neighbour? Those are the people who have denied God from their hearts. They are the fools!
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#152442 Feb 8, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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Aren’t you proud Stalin, Mao Zedong, and Lenin got their act together? These three Atheist were responsible for 95 million deaths.
You really don't know your history do you. Stalin used the delusional "Sheep" that religion had spawn. What a prime opportunity for a dictator, and entire country of delusional religious sheep that would believe anything told them. This was a resource to be used not destroyed. He told these sheep that he alone could produce a miracle whereby their crops would grow double there size. Of course after being totally brainwashed with the idea that miracles were real, the populous bought this horseshoe. Look at many of the old videos of Stalin, he was moat usually surround by the heads of the Russian Orthodox Church. He slaughtered any who opposed his dictatorship, and anyone he suspected of opposing his views.Your right millions were either excited or sent to Siberia, a death sentence in its own. But show me your evidence or documentation that Stalin killed religious people because they weren't Atheists.

Most of those who died under the rule of Mao, died of starvation and disease as a result of rapid industrial growth. Once again I challenge you to produce evidence that Chairman Mao murdered for strictly religious reasons.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#152443 Feb 8, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You can't define it for yourself?
Sure, I can, and the links and definitions supplied - by multiple contributors - answers all of the questions you asked.

But, really, you're a deist/theist, and I don't think you'd be interested in the philosophy of either Humanism or Secular Humanism especially considering your position on many topics that you've made quite clear.

If you are, again, the links provided details quite well its origins, principles and concepts, enjoy.

Feelin' "crotchety" this day, Dave?
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#152444 Feb 8, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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Atheism:
"The fool says in his heart, there is no God."
The REAL fool says that our species came to be after an imaginary being blew on a handful of dirt and a man magically appeared.

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