Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#152287 Feb 7, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Every hear of amplification? I know you have.
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Simple matter of calculation of the size of the effects. Yes, yes, I know you are scared of math and want to deny its applicability, but your lack of understanding does not mean the math or physics is wrong. In fact, of course, the actual observations show it is correct.
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Sarcasm about things you don't understand only makes you look even more the fool.
Amplification is leveraging a signal to a higher level. Happens all over the place on this planet.

Glad you brought it up.

Remember my model airplane analogy? My amplified EM emissions resulting in very fancy holographs? The interesting fact the relative center of mass between humans and the sun is almost dead center of the sun?

We have devices on this earth that can pick up the energy emissions of a 23 watt light bulb at the outer limits of the solar system, and amplify it and distribute it to countless scientists that can then use them in their preferred calculations, and make pronouncements of their being no deity or higher forms of intelligence involved in our evident creation.

What is the strength of that 23 watt light bulb when it hits Earth? How much interference does it encounter? Yet we can filter it and amplify it.

First rule of modern physics. Nothing in this universe is insignificant, no matter how hard a theoretical mathematician/physicist tries to ignore it.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#152288 Feb 7, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>Music was good and some parts were funny. "not THAT kind of duty" :p
It was so cute, I watched it with my mummy, it was just too cute!! I think i enjoyed it more coz of that.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#152289 Feb 7, 2013
The Disciple Series: Holy Infinite Cypher Kibbitz.

The <±.·:*¨`*ELECTRIC±UNIVERSE* ¨`*:·.±>

Of the Blather Mage, Dave Of Zizzy Edicts.

1. Circumpolar Magnetidialectictric Geological Stringy Thingeory.

<±Dave±> "Okay, here is something you can all do yourself. An experiment, if you will. You must first deunderstandify or something like that, and put aside all preconceived notions that the - so called - science you understand or have been "taught", has any validity. It may fly in the face of your "so called" Physics, but, I say it plain, unashamedly and without reservation. I march to the beat of a different drum.

{raising finger}I boldly go where no man, except me, obvi0uSlY!, HAS GONE BEFORE!... <ahem>

... Now, let me explain; Tie a string to your finger, any bodily appendage thingy will work, but I prefer a finger because it's easy to locate and see. Next, obtain two speaker magnets, say from a Radio Shack™ dumpster. Now, find a rock. Juggle those for 56¼ seconds.... SEE?

Amazing!, isn't it?

That's called personal experience, I've replicated it hundreds of times, and the "religion science" of today can't adequately explain what just happened there...."

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#152290 Feb 7, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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I'm trying to rework my sleep schedule back to normal. I'm nocturnal by nature, but I can't get any work done at night.
I've seen the trailer for that movie. Since it's about a video game character, I'll probably like it.
U guys have ruined my sleeping pattern too, I've got blumin' raccoon eyes now, lol, thank the make-up people for making concealer!

Vanellope is sooooooooo cute, u gotta love her even if u don't like the film!! I said u gotta, nope, u can't say no!

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#152291 Feb 7, 2013
scaritual wrote:
The Disciple Series: Holy Infinite Cypher Kibbitz.
The <±.·:*¨`*ELECTRIC±UNIVERSE* ¨`*:·.±>
Of the Blather Mage, Dave Of Zizzy Edicts.
1. Circumpolar Magnetidialectictric Geological Stringy Thingeory.
<±Dave±> "Okay, here is something you can all do yourself. An experiment, if you will. You must first deunderstandify or something like that, and put aside all preconceived notions that the - so called - science you understand or have been "taught", has any validity. It may fly in the face of your "so called" Physics, but, I say it plain, unashamedly and without reservation. I march to the beat of a different drum.
{raising finger}I boldly go where no man, except me, obvi0uSlY!, HAS GONE BEFORE!... <ahem>
... Now, let me explain; Tie a string to your finger, any bodily appendage thingy will work, but I prefer a finger because it's easy to locate and see. Next, obtain two speaker magnets, say from a Radio Shack™ dumpster. Now, find a rock. Juggle those for 56¼ seconds.... SEE?
Amazing!, isn't it?
That's called personal experience, I've replicated it hundreds of times, and the "religion science" of today can't adequately explain what just happened there...."
Amusing.

A shame you can't come up with anything to dispute other than attempted ridicule.

Be a good boy and go watch the TV and learn something. You couldn't figure anything out for yourself.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#152292 Feb 7, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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I dunno if your term "believe" is quite accurate.
But we're getting closer, eh?
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharps...
I welcome the science. What I found interesting more than the article was the title,“Biologists create self-replicating RNA molecule.”

Notice the initial RNA molecule didn’t create itself but was designed and created by the hands of mankind.

“In the beginning God created….”

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#152293 Feb 7, 2013
Clementia wrote:
U guys have ruined my sleeping pattern too, I've got blumin' raccoon eyes now, lol, thank the make-up people for making concealer!
Vanellope is sooooooooo cute, u gotta love her even if u don't like the film!! I said u gotta, nope, u can't say no!
Can I get you a fast acting energy drink before you turn back into a raccoon?

I'll do whatever you say.

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#152294 Feb 7, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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The problem is that you criticise givemeliberties choice not from a point of intelligence, or rationality or facts or reason.
You hate porn because you're a theist. Its that simple.
Why not just be honest about it? Like your cult tells you to be?
Just admit you are predjudiced for no other reason than the fact that you hallucinate a god and you are part of a cult of idiot's who love to judge others, while lying to each other.
So your contention is that feminism is wrong?

Prejudiced against what? Who am I prejudging? Who am I judging at all?

I merely observe, as feminists do, how rape and violence towards women continues to increase worldwide, and its connection to pornagraphy that depicts this something women want.

What it sounds like is you hate women. Why don't you admit it?

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#152295 Feb 7, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>Nice try but not necessarily true. Faith is not one thing. There is all kinds of faith. The kind that of faith that religious people use is NOT the same kind as a atheist would use.
There’s various applications of faith. The meaning of the word faith remains unchanged regardless of the application. Atheist may not have religious faith for example. But do have faith that all life in the beginning derived from sterile material and self created.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#152296 Feb 7, 2013
The amplification Poly referred to is a process relating to transfer of energy in material thingies, very much associated with the structural geometry of them. Has to do with binding forces, leverage, and a few other things, including the gravity well such occurs in. Gravity can dampen a resonant effect. Harder to kick those gravity sensitive thingies away from the way they want to travel.

We build receivers to receive light waves(EM), and then use higher energy levels modified by those signals to reach our threshold of detection. Electric guitars do something like that. Acoustic guitars are just vibrations, energy transfers, passed within the material bonding of the assemblage.

Like it or not, your entire body is an antenna that picks up various frequencies and distributes them in what can be called a complex arrangement. Each cell of your body is "tuned" to resonate a a particular frequency of the light spectrum. Due to manufacturing variations, reactions to external, and internal feedback, stimuli of such EM emissions, is not the same in everyone. This is why you have the psychic people, the severely disturbed, and Topix atheist. The first are very sensitized to fluctuations, the second got overloaded, and the third just kind of flatlined in certain areas of the EM spectrum. Partially brain dead, you could say. In the case of the third kind.

A little fact about this universe as espoused by modern physics. There is no nothing. Just the perception of distance between clumps of matter. They are still connected to each other via "space".

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#152297 Feb 7, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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It doesn't matter when it started - a cult fraud with no proof of god will always be a cult fraud with no proof of god.
Thankfully today scientist are able to stand up and make you idiots sh*t up about your claim that the earth is 6000 years old.
Before then humanity was too stupid to use it's brain save for a few clever people.
This was the question:

So, is it true then that you would assert that everyone that supported Christianity in its earliest days are liars and frauds?

You did not answer the question. Are you, or are you not asserting that those early Christians are lying?

The rest of your statement merely illustrates your lack of historical facts.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#152298 Feb 7, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not sure if this is what you guys are talking about but I did read recently that they discovered one of the pyramids as being perfectly capable of producing hydrogen and that it wasn't a place where people were buried but instead a primitive machine.
Rubbish.

It's a Goa'uld mother ship.

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#152299 Feb 7, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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You have no proof of god, no witness to miracles and no evidence that any of it took place.
Yet you continue to lie about god and build buildings for your cult of liars.
Your cult tells us to be honest, but you can't even be honest about how fossils disprove your stories.
What hope is there for you to live successfully in a society where you can't even accept basic scientific facts?
The witnesses are dead.

So, if your grandfather was accused of rape, but vindicated by a witness, and the case closed, can you reopen the case because the witness is now dead? Can someone now accuse your grandfather of rape?

I rest my case.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#152300 Feb 7, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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U think so? What makes u say that?
I like orange colour fruit, the one that is sour and u don't use a knife to cut it but u do it with your fingers, which one is that?
I know, i feel normal again.
Must be a sour orange.

For oranges, I prefer the large valencia ones, with a huge navel.

The sweeter the better, like you.

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#152301 Feb 7, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Some porn is sick. I often see old people looking at this long haired guy in a nappy with blood coming out of his side, head, hands and feet. Really sick stuff. What if kids saw it?
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What if the kids saw it.

Well, that is a good question.

For those of you that think porn is OK, is it OK for kids to see it?

Or would you feel some kind of embarrassment, or even shame, if your kids, or any kid, saw your stash of porn, or saw you IN a porn ...

So which is more embarrassing? Husband and wife having sex while the kids walk in? Or a kid turing seeing you watch a women being brutalized by a gang in a mock rape scene?

I rest my case.

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#152302 Feb 7, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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Christianity gave birth to science?
There has never been a seperation between science and Christianity?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Sorry..AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Oh man...and you say other people don't understand history?
Wow..
Yes.

No.

Historical fact.

Ignorant much?

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#152303 Feb 7, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
The dirty little secret is, women like to have sex and enjoy it with a capable partner. The last part hitting you a little to close to home eh?
I adore women and fight for their rights from being trampled on by Christholes.
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No kidding, really?

But that is not porn, that is good sex.

Porn shows women being struck across the face and ejaculations into their mouth.

Or maybe you haven't actual seen what is common place these days, eh?

It's ain't your grandma's Playboy, let me tell. It's not even Penthouse, which is very tasteful by today's standards.

No, bro, Christianity has done more for women than any other religion or institution on earth, by far. We ended contract marriages where women were slaves, and made marriage sacred.

You people are just trying to drag us by the hair to pagan times when sex was so all-important, that women were raped and abused, and children neglected, in epic proportions.

What a sick and twisted person you are.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#152304 Feb 7, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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The witnesses are dead.
So, if your grandfather was accused of rape, but vindicated by a witness, and the case closed, can you reopen the case because the witness is now dead? Can someone now accuse your grandfather of rape?
I rest my case.
Well, you're not clear here.

If the grandfather was charged with rape, tried, and acquitted, he could not be charged again with the same crime. It's called double jeopardy and it's a no-no.

If the case was "closed" by the prosecutor, before a trial, the grandfather could again be charged with the crime, as long as the statute of limitations has not expired.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#152305 Feb 7, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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Yawn...the only thing that all atheists agree on is that there is no god.
Seriously, in addition to being a monster and a troll, you're also pretty damn stupid...
Thank you, your comment tells me you lack the sophistication to counter with a intellectual response. I’m not going to call you stupid because one, it’s impolite. Two it serves absolutely no purpose. Three, who am I to judge your intellect?

People who call someone else stupid are generally relaying a feeling of inadequacy in their inner being. A inward frustration that they can’t do more because a lack of education or discipline in their life. Generally it comes down to one’s inferior self-esteem.

My advice to you would be to don’t get frustrated but dig deeper into what you believe. If you can’t sustain that belief with knowledge then perhaps it’s time to re-asses your ideology.[Tipping Hat]

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#152306 Feb 7, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Just the leaders, the sheep like yourself were just easily duped by the delusion.
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Here is my post again: "So, is it true then that you would assert that everyone that supported Christianity in its earliest days are liars and frauds?"

So you narrow your accusation then to a smaller number of individuals. You accuse then, the Church Fathers, Apostles, martyrs, and many others leaders of that time period of lying and fraud then?

Is that correct?

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