Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#152240 Feb 7, 2013
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You're going to need to show me both that they had knowledge of this process and that the process actually does anything relevant.
This sounds like psuedoscience of the highest order. I'd appreciate any scholarly link on this topic.
Another misconception on your part. I don't need to do anything to show you.

I have duplicated this process using modern materials and methods. I have been loathe to do it again as I can not predict the ultimate effects. All independent of any religious aspect. Pure scientific experimentation.

“I see quantum effects”

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In the macro world.

#152241 Feb 7, 2013
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<quoted text>The same way you do with wires and semiconductors. Mass, gravity, and charge. It's macroelectronics, if you will.

The Great Pyramid, as the other pyramids, is a reverse, though. They were designed as a return to the sun and heavens. They drain charge buildups. One reason they buried Pharoahs in them. They become relatively static and timeless.

Again, you refer to them as monuments, something symbolic, not as machines doing a process. You are a machine doing a process.
You are an idiot sniffing too many fart bubbles.

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#152242 Feb 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Another misconception on your part. I don't need to do anything to show you.
I have duplicated this process using modern materials and methods. I have been loathe to do it again as I can not predict the ultimate effects. All independent of any religious aspect. Pure scientific experimentation.
Why can't I find any information about pyramids being conduits for telleric energy on any scientific sites? The only sites which mention this are "new age" and pseudoscience sites.

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#152243 Feb 7, 2013
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Why can't I find any information about pyramids being conduits for telleric energy on any scientific sites? The only sites which mention this are "new age" and pseudoscience sites.
Don't bother yourself about it. Just sit in your pew and listen to "The Truth" dispensed from the pulpit. Admire the brilliant priest in his lab coat and know he understands the mysteries better than you. Especially since he uses such impressive words, phrases, and references to the discoveries of other men, the Saints of science.

Don't worry, be happy.

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#152244 Feb 7, 2013
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Don't bother yourself about it. Just sit in your pew and listen to "The Truth" dispensed from the pulpit.
You've done a great job of describing yourself. Hey, I read some garbage online. There's no scientific support behind it, but WHATEVER. Everyone who doesn't listen to my quackery is a sheep.

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#152245 Feb 7, 2013
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Why can't I find any information about pyramids being conduits for telleric energy on any scientific sites? The only sites which mention this are "new age" and pseudoscience sites.
Oh, in my zeal to save your soul and peace of mind I forgot one thing to consider.

Telluric currents, magnetism? The stuff produced here locally on earth?

Voyager has a 23 watt radio transmitter. That is the energy of one of the brighter curly cue lamp bulbs. Voyager is a long ways away, but we still can pick up the signal. It could still pick up the signal from us.

Oh, no, no, there is no way local fluctuations in the earth's magnetic signature can possibly affect us. Impossible. Insignificant perturbations. Ask Polymath, or Bit Twiddler if he is still around. Brilliant students of physics. They are hot on the trail of how many infinite universes can exist in an infinitely small singularity, and how many virtual particles might or might not pop in an out.

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#152246 Feb 7, 2013
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Oh, in my zeal to save your soul and peace of mind I forgot one thing to consider.
Telluric currents, magnetism? The stuff produced here locally on earth?
You have yet to show one measurable effect caused by ancient monuments or evidence that said ancients knew of the effect.

You have yet to produce one scientific article on the matter at all.

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#152247 Feb 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Don't bother yourself about it. Just sit in your pew and listen to "The Truth" dispensed from the pulpit.
Just think about the breathtaking irony here folks, he's using a religious analogy to criticise science, thinking he's defending religion.

Marvellous.. Simply Marvellous...

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#152248 Feb 7, 2013
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You've done a great job of describing yourself. Hey, I read some garbage online. There's no scientific support behind it, but WHATEVER. Everyone who doesn't listen to my quackery is a sheep.
Every bit of my theorizing is home grown.

And based upon actual physical processes.

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#152249 Feb 7, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Just think about the breathtaking irony here folks, he's using a religious analogy to criticise science, thinking he's defending religion.
Marvellous.. Simply Marvellous...
You are in error using the term "think" in reference to your group. Use something like "emote". And be more definitive. Something like "Folks, emote about the breathtaking irony..".

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#152250 Feb 7, 2013
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You have yet to show one measurable effect caused by ancient monuments or evidence that said ancients knew of the effect.
You have yet to produce one scientific article on the matter at all.
"Sacred geometry".

Designed to fit geometric and astronomic conditions.

Masons.

Dragon current. Qi. Buildings that were "abominations upon the land". Ley lines.

Been around a long time.

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#152251 Feb 7, 2013
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Every bit of my theorizing is home grown.
And based upon actual physical processes.
So what distinguishes it from "something you made up entirely"?

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#152252 Feb 7, 2013
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So what distinguishes it from "something you made up entirely"?
They physically exist.

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#152253 Feb 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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"Sacred geometry".
Designed to fit geometric and astronomic conditions.
Masons.
Dragon current. Qi. Buildings that were "abominations upon the land". Ley lines.
Been around a long time.
Yes, quackery has been around a long time. Always has trouble when faced with actual scientific scrutiny.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ley_line

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#152254 Feb 7, 2013
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They physically exist.
I'm talking about the effects you are claiming.

I could say I developed a method whereby eggs can 'block' gravity and float indefinitely. Both eggs and gravity exist, but that is not support for my claim.

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#152255 Feb 7, 2013
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Yes, quackery has been around a long time. Always has trouble when faced with actual scientific scrutiny.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ley_line
Keep the faith, baby.

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#152256 Feb 7, 2013
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Keep the faith, baby.
That seems to be your motto. Idea debunked? Keep believing it.

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#152257 Feb 7, 2013
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I'm talking about the effects you are claiming.
I could say I developed a method whereby eggs can 'block' gravity and float indefinitely. Both eggs and gravity exist, but that is not support for my claim.
You could say lots of things, but your ability to actually come up with something on your own is very improbable, given your predisposition to blindly accept the interpretations of others because they are "authorities".

Applied physcis is stuff that works, even though maybe not exactly in the way currently thought. Theoretical physics, which is the orbit you are caught in, is purely speculation, and quite often mental masturbation. Stay there if you wish to be in the middle of a circle jerk.

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#152258 Feb 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You could say lots of things, but your ability to actually come up with something on your own is very improbable, given your predisposition to blindly accept the interpretations of others because they are "authorities".
Applied physcis is stuff that works, even though maybe not exactly in the way currently thought. Theoretical physics, which is the orbit you are caught in, is purely speculation, and quite often mental masturbation. Stay there if you wish to be in the middle of a circle jerk.
You've yet to show a single application. You're all talk and no substance.

Why aren't the amazing personal results you got in your basement up on youtube?
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#152259 Feb 7, 2013
The bollocks is strong in this one...
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You could say lots of things, but your ability to actually come up with something on your own is very improbable, given your predisposition to blindly accept the interpretations of others because they are "authorities".
Applied physcis is stuff that works, even though maybe not exactly in the way currently thought. Theoretical physics, which is the orbit you are caught in, is purely speculation, and quite often mental masturbation. Stay there if you wish to be in the middle of a circle jerk.

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