Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#152245 Feb 7, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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Why can't I find any information about pyramids being conduits for telleric energy on any scientific sites? The only sites which mention this are "new age" and pseudoscience sites.
Oh, in my zeal to save your soul and peace of mind I forgot one thing to consider.

Telluric currents, magnetism? The stuff produced here locally on earth?

Voyager has a 23 watt radio transmitter. That is the energy of one of the brighter curly cue lamp bulbs. Voyager is a long ways away, but we still can pick up the signal. It could still pick up the signal from us.

Oh, no, no, there is no way local fluctuations in the earth's magnetic signature can possibly affect us. Impossible. Insignificant perturbations. Ask Polymath, or Bit Twiddler if he is still around. Brilliant students of physics. They are hot on the trail of how many infinite universes can exist in an infinitely small singularity, and how many virtual particles might or might not pop in an out.

Since: Dec 11

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#152246 Feb 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Oh, in my zeal to save your soul and peace of mind I forgot one thing to consider.
Telluric currents, magnetism? The stuff produced here locally on earth?
You have yet to show one measurable effect caused by ancient monuments or evidence that said ancients knew of the effect.

You have yet to produce one scientific article on the matter at all.

Since: Jun 07

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#152247 Feb 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Don't bother yourself about it. Just sit in your pew and listen to "The Truth" dispensed from the pulpit.
Just think about the breathtaking irony here folks, he's using a religious analogy to criticise science, thinking he's defending religion.

Marvellous.. Simply Marvellous...

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#152248 Feb 7, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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You've done a great job of describing yourself. Hey, I read some garbage online. There's no scientific support behind it, but WHATEVER. Everyone who doesn't listen to my quackery is a sheep.
Every bit of my theorizing is home grown.

And based upon actual physical processes.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#152249 Feb 7, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Just think about the breathtaking irony here folks, he's using a religious analogy to criticise science, thinking he's defending religion.
Marvellous.. Simply Marvellous...
You are in error using the term "think" in reference to your group. Use something like "emote". And be more definitive. Something like "Folks, emote about the breathtaking irony..".

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#152250 Feb 7, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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You have yet to show one measurable effect caused by ancient monuments or evidence that said ancients knew of the effect.
You have yet to produce one scientific article on the matter at all.
"Sacred geometry".

Designed to fit geometric and astronomic conditions.

Masons.

Dragon current. Qi. Buildings that were "abominations upon the land". Ley lines.

Been around a long time.

Since: Dec 11

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#152251 Feb 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Every bit of my theorizing is home grown.
And based upon actual physical processes.
So what distinguishes it from "something you made up entirely"?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#152252 Feb 7, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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So what distinguishes it from "something you made up entirely"?
They physically exist.

Since: Dec 11

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#152253 Feb 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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"Sacred geometry".
Designed to fit geometric and astronomic conditions.
Masons.
Dragon current. Qi. Buildings that were "abominations upon the land". Ley lines.
Been around a long time.
Yes, quackery has been around a long time. Always has trouble when faced with actual scientific scrutiny.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ley_line

Since: Dec 11

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#152254 Feb 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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They physically exist.
I'm talking about the effects you are claiming.

I could say I developed a method whereby eggs can 'block' gravity and float indefinitely. Both eggs and gravity exist, but that is not support for my claim.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#152255 Feb 7, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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Yes, quackery has been around a long time. Always has trouble when faced with actual scientific scrutiny.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ley_line
Keep the faith, baby.

Since: Dec 11

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#152256 Feb 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Keep the faith, baby.
That seems to be your motto. Idea debunked? Keep believing it.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#152257 Feb 7, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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I'm talking about the effects you are claiming.
I could say I developed a method whereby eggs can 'block' gravity and float indefinitely. Both eggs and gravity exist, but that is not support for my claim.
You could say lots of things, but your ability to actually come up with something on your own is very improbable, given your predisposition to blindly accept the interpretations of others because they are "authorities".

Applied physcis is stuff that works, even though maybe not exactly in the way currently thought. Theoretical physics, which is the orbit you are caught in, is purely speculation, and quite often mental masturbation. Stay there if you wish to be in the middle of a circle jerk.

Since: Dec 11

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#152258 Feb 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You could say lots of things, but your ability to actually come up with something on your own is very improbable, given your predisposition to blindly accept the interpretations of others because they are "authorities".
Applied physcis is stuff that works, even though maybe not exactly in the way currently thought. Theoretical physics, which is the orbit you are caught in, is purely speculation, and quite often mental masturbation. Stay there if you wish to be in the middle of a circle jerk.
You've yet to show a single application. You're all talk and no substance.

Why aren't the amazing personal results you got in your basement up on youtube?
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#152259 Feb 7, 2013
The bollocks is strong in this one...
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You could say lots of things, but your ability to actually come up with something on your own is very improbable, given your predisposition to blindly accept the interpretations of others because they are "authorities".
Applied physcis is stuff that works, even though maybe not exactly in the way currently thought. Theoretical physics, which is the orbit you are caught in, is purely speculation, and quite often mental masturbation. Stay there if you wish to be in the middle of a circle jerk.

Since: Apr 10

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#152260 Feb 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Don't bother yourself about it. Just sit in your pew and listen to "The Truth" dispensed from the pulpit. Admire the brilliant priest in his lab coat and know he understands the mysteries better than you. Especially since he uses such impressive words, phrases, and references to the discoveries of other men, the Saints of science.
Don't worry, be happy.
I thoroughly enjoy your witty informative posts. They are like a breath of fresh air in a stale room.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#152261 Feb 7, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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You've yet to show a single application. You're all talk and no substance.
Why aren't the amazing personal results you got in your basement up on youtube?
Listen to you. The Defender of the Faithful of Science.

Your actual knowledge of physics likely doesn't extend beyond turning a page or using a mouse on a computer screen.

And you get on here and shriek "YOU LIE!!!! IT CAN'T BE TRUE!!! I DIDN'T READ IT IN A BOOK OR SEE IT ON THE TV!!!!" LIAR!!! HERETIC!!!!".

Dumbass.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#152262 Feb 7, 2013
LucindaW wrote:
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I thoroughly enjoy your witty informative posts. They are like a breath of fresh air in a stale room.
Why, thank you, Lucinda. But any old fart will smell better than these guys.
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#152263 Feb 7, 2013
You clearly enjoy a mouthful of bollocks and will swallow most things.
LucindaW wrote:
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I thoroughly enjoy your witty informative posts. They are like a breath of fresh air in a stale room.

Since: Dec 11

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#152264 Feb 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Listen to you. The Defender of the Faithful of Science.
Your actual knowledge of physics likely doesn't extend beyond turning a page or using a mouse on a computer screen.
And you get on here and shriek "YOU LIE!!!! IT CAN'T BE TRUE!!! I DIDN'T READ IT IN A BOOK OR SEE IT ON THE TV!!!!" LIAR!!! HERETIC!!!!".
Dumbass.
I haven't been shrieking. All I'm doing is asking for evidence and you can't back up a single thing you've said and you make references to phenomena known to be debunked.

Got that youtube video of your experiments yet? I guess you're just keeping this scientific discovery to yourself. Makes sense.

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