Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Read more

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#152278 Feb 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Voyager has a 23 watt radio transmitter. That is the energy of one of the brighter curly cue lamp bulbs. Voyager is a long ways away, but we still can pick up the signal. It could still pick up the signal from us.
Every hear of amplification? I know you have.
Oh, no, no, there is no way local fluctuations in the earth's magnetic signature can possibly affect us. Impossible. Insignificant perturbations. Ask Polymath, or Bit Twiddler if he is still around.
Simple matter of calculation of the size of the effects. Yes, yes, I know you are scared of math and want to deny its applicability, but your lack of understanding does not mean the math or physics is wrong. In fact, of course, the actual observations show it is correct.
Brilliant students of physics. They are hot on the trail of how many infinite universes can exist in an infinitely small singularity, and how many virtual particles might or might not pop in an out.
Sarcasm about things you don't understand only makes you look even more the fool.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#152279 Feb 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://www.independent.co.uk/n ews/science/a-solar-superstorm -is-coming-and-well-only-get-3 0minute-warning-8484058.html
Increased radiation levels, they found out, in past ones. Recalibrate those Carbon-14 thingies again.
The theoretical science worshiped by Topix atheists are static pictures math geeks try to work puzzles from. The universe is too dynamic for them.
Not at all. In fact, Newton invented calculus precisely because he wanted to do dynamics. You might try to learn some. High school physics doesn't use calc, but *real* physics does.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#152280 Feb 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Every bit of my theorizing is home grown.
And based upon actual physical processes.
Yes Dave.

We know.

You sit in your hot tub and sniff fart bubbles.

It's having an effect on you.

Since: Nov 12

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#152281 Feb 7, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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The apostles, silly, and everyone that witnessed the event, and later put it down to paper, and wrote about it. What exactly do you think the New Testament is? It's a collection of historical records, of course.
No witnesses, no people that saw Jesus and witnessed His Resurrection, no Christianity.
What witnesses put it down on paper?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#152282 Feb 7, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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You've yet to show a single application. You're all talk and no substance.
Why aren't the amazing personal results you got in your basement up on youtube?
Let me introduce you to Dave.

Dave is the greatest mind of all time.

Newton, Einstein and Tesla combined.

He has all the REAL answers to the universe.

He just can't be bothered to tell everybody what they are.

He just keeps teasing the scientific community.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#152283 Feb 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Why, thank you, Lucinda. But any old fart will smell better than these guys.
And THAT is your area of expertise.

Since: Dec 11

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#152284 Feb 7, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Let me introduce you to Dave.
Dave is the greatest mind of all time.
Newton, Einstein and Tesla combined.
He has all the REAL answers to the universe.
He just can't be bothered to tell everybody what they are.
He just keeps teasing the scientific community.
I get it. If he reveals any of his secrets, the scientific illuminati will come after him.

Since: Oct 12

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#152285 Feb 7, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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You're more tangerine than orange.
And it's great to see the real Clementine back in your avatar.
U think so? What makes u say that?

I like orange colour fruit, the one that is sour and u don't use a knife to cut it but u do it with your fingers, which one is that?

I know, i feel normal again.

Since: Oct 12

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#152286 Feb 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Empires unify. If not the core of the empire, those it conquered in resistance to it.
Legal systems and education are applied to larger areas than originally there. Disparate warring tribes becomes regions and larger political entities. This broader education applied is absorbed by the conquered and members of them get the idea they could be in power if they got rid of those that educated them. And any other locals opposed to them.
But all in all, the level is much higher than it was before an larger organized civilization took over. The Romans did it to Europe and the Brits, the Europeans and Brits did it to other parts of the world.
I don't understand your English, i'm sorry, i'm not even gonna try coz i know i'm gonna fail! lol

No, that is not always true! It's so not true about India!

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#152287 Feb 7, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Every hear of amplification? I know you have.
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Simple matter of calculation of the size of the effects. Yes, yes, I know you are scared of math and want to deny its applicability, but your lack of understanding does not mean the math or physics is wrong. In fact, of course, the actual observations show it is correct.
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Sarcasm about things you don't understand only makes you look even more the fool.
Amplification is leveraging a signal to a higher level. Happens all over the place on this planet.

Glad you brought it up.

Remember my model airplane analogy? My amplified EM emissions resulting in very fancy holographs? The interesting fact the relative center of mass between humans and the sun is almost dead center of the sun?

We have devices on this earth that can pick up the energy emissions of a 23 watt light bulb at the outer limits of the solar system, and amplify it and distribute it to countless scientists that can then use them in their preferred calculations, and make pronouncements of their being no deity or higher forms of intelligence involved in our evident creation.

What is the strength of that 23 watt light bulb when it hits Earth? How much interference does it encounter? Yet we can filter it and amplify it.

First rule of modern physics. Nothing in this universe is insignificant, no matter how hard a theoretical mathematician/physicist tries to ignore it.

Since: Oct 12

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#152288 Feb 7, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>Music was good and some parts were funny. "not THAT kind of duty" :p
It was so cute, I watched it with my mummy, it was just too cute!! I think i enjoyed it more coz of that.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#152289 Feb 7, 2013
The Disciple Series: Holy Infinite Cypher Kibbitz.

The <±.·:*¨`*ELECTRIC±UNIVERSE* ¨`*:·.±>

Of the Blather Mage, Dave Of Zizzy Edicts.

1. Circumpolar Magnetidialectictric Geological Stringy Thingeory.

<±Dave±> "Okay, here is something you can all do yourself. An experiment, if you will. You must first deunderstandify or something like that, and put aside all preconceived notions that the - so called - science you understand or have been "taught", has any validity. It may fly in the face of your "so called" Physics, but, I say it plain, unashamedly and without reservation. I march to the beat of a different drum.

{raising finger}I boldly go where no man, except me, obvi0uSlY!, HAS GONE BEFORE!... <ahem>

... Now, let me explain; Tie a string to your finger, any bodily appendage thingy will work, but I prefer a finger because it's easy to locate and see. Next, obtain two speaker magnets, say from a Radio Shack™ dumpster. Now, find a rock. Juggle those for 56¼ seconds.... SEE?

Amazing!, isn't it?

That's called personal experience, I've replicated it hundreds of times, and the "religion science" of today can't adequately explain what just happened there...."

Since: Oct 12

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#152290 Feb 7, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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I'm trying to rework my sleep schedule back to normal. I'm nocturnal by nature, but I can't get any work done at night.
I've seen the trailer for that movie. Since it's about a video game character, I'll probably like it.
U guys have ruined my sleeping pattern too, I've got blumin' raccoon eyes now, lol, thank the make-up people for making concealer!

Vanellope is sooooooooo cute, u gotta love her even if u don't like the film!! I said u gotta, nope, u can't say no!

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#152291 Feb 7, 2013
scaritual wrote:
The Disciple Series: Holy Infinite Cypher Kibbitz.
The <±.·:*¨`*ELECTRIC±UNIVERSE* ¨`*:·.±>
Of the Blather Mage, Dave Of Zizzy Edicts.
1. Circumpolar Magnetidialectictric Geological Stringy Thingeory.
<±Dave±> "Okay, here is something you can all do yourself. An experiment, if you will. You must first deunderstandify or something like that, and put aside all preconceived notions that the - so called - science you understand or have been "taught", has any validity. It may fly in the face of your "so called" Physics, but, I say it plain, unashamedly and without reservation. I march to the beat of a different drum.
{raising finger}I boldly go where no man, except me, obvi0uSlY!, HAS GONE BEFORE!... <ahem>
... Now, let me explain; Tie a string to your finger, any bodily appendage thingy will work, but I prefer a finger because it's easy to locate and see. Next, obtain two speaker magnets, say from a Radio Shack™ dumpster. Now, find a rock. Juggle those for 56¼ seconds.... SEE?
Amazing!, isn't it?
That's called personal experience, I've replicated it hundreds of times, and the "religion science" of today can't adequately explain what just happened there...."
Amusing.

A shame you can't come up with anything to dispute other than attempted ridicule.

Be a good boy and go watch the TV and learn something. You couldn't figure anything out for yourself.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#152292 Feb 7, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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I dunno if your term "believe" is quite accurate.
But we're getting closer, eh?
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharps...
I welcome the science. What I found interesting more than the article was the title,“Biologists create self-replicating RNA molecule.”

Notice the initial RNA molecule didn’t create itself but was designed and created by the hands of mankind.

“In the beginning God created….”

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#152293 Feb 7, 2013
Clementia wrote:
U guys have ruined my sleeping pattern too, I've got blumin' raccoon eyes now, lol, thank the make-up people for making concealer!
Vanellope is sooooooooo cute, u gotta love her even if u don't like the film!! I said u gotta, nope, u can't say no!
Can I get you a fast acting energy drink before you turn back into a raccoon?

I'll do whatever you say.

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#152294 Feb 7, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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The problem is that you criticise givemeliberties choice not from a point of intelligence, or rationality or facts or reason.
You hate porn because you're a theist. Its that simple.
Why not just be honest about it? Like your cult tells you to be?
Just admit you are predjudiced for no other reason than the fact that you hallucinate a god and you are part of a cult of idiot's who love to judge others, while lying to each other.
So your contention is that feminism is wrong?

Prejudiced against what? Who am I prejudging? Who am I judging at all?

I merely observe, as feminists do, how rape and violence towards women continues to increase worldwide, and its connection to pornagraphy that depicts this something women want.

What it sounds like is you hate women. Why don't you admit it?

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#152295 Feb 7, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>Nice try but not necessarily true. Faith is not one thing. There is all kinds of faith. The kind that of faith that religious people use is NOT the same kind as a atheist would use.
There’s various applications of faith. The meaning of the word faith remains unchanged regardless of the application. Atheist may not have religious faith for example. But do have faith that all life in the beginning derived from sterile material and self created.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#152296 Feb 7, 2013
The amplification Poly referred to is a process relating to transfer of energy in material thingies, very much associated with the structural geometry of them. Has to do with binding forces, leverage, and a few other things, including the gravity well such occurs in. Gravity can dampen a resonant effect. Harder to kick those gravity sensitive thingies away from the way they want to travel.

We build receivers to receive light waves(EM), and then use higher energy levels modified by those signals to reach our threshold of detection. Electric guitars do something like that. Acoustic guitars are just vibrations, energy transfers, passed within the material bonding of the assemblage.

Like it or not, your entire body is an antenna that picks up various frequencies and distributes them in what can be called a complex arrangement. Each cell of your body is "tuned" to resonate a a particular frequency of the light spectrum. Due to manufacturing variations, reactions to external, and internal feedback, stimuli of such EM emissions, is not the same in everyone. This is why you have the psychic people, the severely disturbed, and Topix atheist. The first are very sensitized to fluctuations, the second got overloaded, and the third just kind of flatlined in certain areas of the EM spectrum. Partially brain dead, you could say. In the case of the third kind.

A little fact about this universe as espoused by modern physics. There is no nothing. Just the perception of distance between clumps of matter. They are still connected to each other via "space".

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#152297 Feb 7, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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It doesn't matter when it started - a cult fraud with no proof of god will always be a cult fraud with no proof of god.
Thankfully today scientist are able to stand up and make you idiots sh*t up about your claim that the earth is 6000 years old.
Before then humanity was too stupid to use it's brain save for a few clever people.
This was the question:

So, is it true then that you would assert that everyone that supported Christianity in its earliest days are liars and frauds?

You did not answer the question. Are you, or are you not asserting that those early Christians are lying?

The rest of your statement merely illustrates your lack of historical facts.

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