Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#152223 Feb 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You are FOS.
The Second Temple was quite an engineering feat. The Romans, who are quite famous for their engineering skills, had a helluva time dismantling it.
BTW, it was really just a big slaughterhouse and meat market.
cool, they moved some earth. Did the make an MRI machine or a car...nope.

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#152224 Feb 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You are FOS.
The Second Temple was quite an engineering feat. The Romans, who are quite famous for their engineering skills, had a helluva time dismantling it.
BTW, it was really just a big slaughterhouse and meat market.
Having building skills does not indicate a scientific or skeptical mindset.

The Egyptian and Mesoamerican pyramids are more impressive than the Second Temple and I don't hear that being used as support for their religions' validity.

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#152225 Feb 7, 2013
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cool, they moved some earth. Did the make an MRI machine or a car...nope.
You are FOS II.

Big rocks, not just earth.

Look up Baalbek.

Those megalithic buildings were more than just buildings. They produced something that kept people spending extraordinary amounts of money, materials, and labor to construct them over long periods of time. They were not casual endeavors.
Adam

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#152226 Feb 7, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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The Gospels are legends made to lay down a religion. They're no more historical than the accounts of Muhammad talking to Allah or Joseph Smith meeting an angel or Buddha achieving Nirvana.
+1, nicely put

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#152227 Feb 7, 2013
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Having building skills does not indicate a scientific or skeptical mindset.
The Egyptian and Mesoamerican pyramids are more impressive than the Second Temple and I don't hear that being used as support for their religions' validity.
A simple mind such as yours would see such structures as symbolic. Even though they were very expensive.

You are incapable of seeing them as vehicles or conduits for energy flows. The "priests" did. They were the "scientific" minds of the time.
Thinking

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#152228 Feb 7, 2013
But I some in this building where parents force their kids to go. I think it was called a church or something? Definitely shouldn't show that sick sh!t to children.
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It would warp them and lead to hatred of others. I would never allow that filth to be shown to children.
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Thinking

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#152229 Feb 7, 2013
But I *saw* some in this building where parents force their kids to go. I think it was called a church or something? Definitely shouldn't show that sick sh!t to children.

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#152230 Feb 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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A simple mind such as yours would see such structures as symbolic. Even though they were very expensive.
You are incapable of seeing them as vehicles or conduits for energy flows. The "priests" did. They were the "scientific" minds of the time.
Conduits for energy flows? Please explain.

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#152231 Feb 7, 2013
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Conduits for energy flows? Please explain.
I've been through it on the PTAG and this forum before.

Channeling telluric currents. Not to power a damned video game, but to supply energy for growth. Basically EM that carries charge providing a catalyst for energy transfers.

The concept started in the ground and later out to the stars. Your Big Bang is a derivative.

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#152232 Feb 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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I've been through it on the PTAG and this forum before.
Channeling telluric currents. Not to power a damned video game, but to supply energy for growth. Basically EM that carries charge providing a catalyst for energy transfers.
The concept started in the ground and later out to the stars. Your Big Bang is a derivative.
How do monuments channel telluric current and for what use? You can use the Great Pyramid as an example.

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#152233 Feb 7, 2013
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How do monuments channel telluric current and for what use? You can use the Great Pyramid as an example.
The same way you do with wires and semiconductors. Mass, gravity, and charge. It's macroelectronics, if you will.

The Great Pyramid, as the other pyramids, is a reverse, though. They were designed as a return to the sun and heavens. They drain charge buildups. One reason they buried Pharoahs in them. They become relatively static and timeless.

Again, you refer to them as monuments, something symbolic, not as machines doing a process. You are a machine doing a process.

“Think&Care”

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#152234 Feb 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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I've been through it on the PTAG and this forum before.
Channeling telluric currents. Not to power a damned video game, but to supply energy for growth. Basically EM that carries charge providing a catalyst for energy transfers.
The concept started in the ground and later out to the stars. Your Big Bang is a derivative.
LMAO! Telluric currents? Seriously?

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#152235 Feb 7, 2013
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The same way you do with wires and semiconductors. Mass, gravity, and charge. It's macroelectronics, if you will.
The Great Pyramid, as the other pyramids, is a reverse, though. They were designed as a return to the sun and heavens. They drain charge buildups. One reason they buried Pharoahs in them. They become relatively static and timeless.
Again, you refer to them as monuments, something symbolic, not as machines doing a process. You are a machine doing a process.
You're going to need to show me both that they had knowledge of this process and that the process actually does anything relevant.

This sounds like psuedoscience of the highest order. I'd appreciate any scholarly link on this topic.

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#152236 Feb 7, 2013
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LMAO! Telluric currents? Seriously?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telluric_current

These are not lightweight energies. Let's say they are much more powerful than the batteries that power your laptop.

Your simple mindedness blinds you to the realities of what happens on this earth.

Pass a current through a wire, OR a semiconductor. A magnetic field is induced more or less equally around it. This field is force. The center of the field will react to the forces surrounding it. This is why electric motors work. This interaction is passed and reverberates all through the earth and space.

Run a wire a distance above the ground. Pump some juice in it. The magnetic field skyward encounters less resistance within a fixed distance. Underneath it encounters greater resistance. Sideways it varies.
Adam

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#152237 Feb 7, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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This sounds like psuedoscience of the highest order.
Yep, my thoughts too.

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#152238 Feb 7, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
No witnesses, no people that saw Jesus and witnessed His Resurrection, no Christianity.
There is a LONG list of people who used to write in those days who NEVER mentioned jesus. Why would they write about someone that wasn't there?

For example; Philo Judaeus wrote very many books about Jewish religion and history, living in Alexandria, and visiting Jerusalem. Philo visited Jerusalem and had family there, he was considered a Christian by later Christians, and he wrote a great deal about related times and peoples and issues.

If Jesus had existed, Philo would certainly have written about him and his teachings. But he never mentions jesus.

Many examples like this.

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#152239 Feb 7, 2013
The_Box wrote:
You can use the Great Pyramid as an example.
I'm not sure if this is what you guys are talking about but I did read recently that they discovered one of the pyramids as being perfectly capable of producing hydrogen and that it wasn't a place where people were buried but instead a primitive machine.

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#152240 Feb 7, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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You're going to need to show me both that they had knowledge of this process and that the process actually does anything relevant.
This sounds like psuedoscience of the highest order. I'd appreciate any scholarly link on this topic.
Another misconception on your part. I don't need to do anything to show you.

I have duplicated this process using modern materials and methods. I have been loathe to do it again as I can not predict the ultimate effects. All independent of any religious aspect. Pure scientific experimentation.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#152241 Feb 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>The same way you do with wires and semiconductors. Mass, gravity, and charge. It's macroelectronics, if you will.

The Great Pyramid, as the other pyramids, is a reverse, though. They were designed as a return to the sun and heavens. They drain charge buildups. One reason they buried Pharoahs in them. They become relatively static and timeless.

Again, you refer to them as monuments, something symbolic, not as machines doing a process. You are a machine doing a process.
You are an idiot sniffing too many fart bubbles.

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#152242 Feb 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Another misconception on your part. I don't need to do anything to show you.
I have duplicated this process using modern materials and methods. I have been loathe to do it again as I can not predict the ultimate effects. All independent of any religious aspect. Pure scientific experimentation.
Why can't I find any information about pyramids being conduits for telleric energy on any scientific sites? The only sites which mention this are "new age" and pseudoscience sites.

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