Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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Since: Jun 07

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#152192 Feb 6, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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LOL!
Paying for site upkeep and advertising is supporting porn ... and the real war on women.
Fess up, you hate women.
I, believe me, I would love to return to my old perverted tastes, and try and talk myself into believing that these women are empowered, and just showing us how they love what they do, and it makes them feel like a goddess.
But then I put my big boy pants on, and got a reality check. Rape is up. Objectification of women is up. Men are more piggish than ever, me being no exception until I grew up.
So fess up.
The problem is that you criticise givemeliberties choice not from a point of intelligence, or rationality or facts or reason.

You hate porn because you're a theist. Its that simple.

Why not just be honest about it? Like your cult tells you to be?

Just admit you are predjudiced for no other reason than the fact that you hallucinate a god and you are part of a cult of idiot's who love to judge others, while lying to each other.

Since: Jun 07

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#152193 Feb 6, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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So, is it true then that you would assert that everyone that supported Christianity in its earliest days are liars and frauds?
It doesn't matter when it started - a cult fraud with no proof of god will always be a cult fraud with no proof of god.

Thankfully today scientist are able to stand up and make you idiots sh*t up about your claim that the earth is 6000 years old.

Before then humanity was too stupid to use it's brain save for a few clever people.

Since: Jun 07

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#152194 Feb 7, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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The apostles, silly, and everyone that witnessed the event, and later put it down to paper, and wrote about it. What exactly do you think the New Testament is? It's a collection of historical records, of course.
No witnesses, no people that saw Jesus and witnessed His Resurrection, no Christianity.
You have no proof of god, no witness to miracles and no evidence that any of it took place.

Yet you continue to lie about god and build buildings for your cult of liars.

Your cult tells us to be honest, but you can't even be honest about how fossils disprove your stories.

What hope is there for you to live successfully in a society where you can't even accept basic scientific facts?

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

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#152195 Feb 7, 2013
Turkey wrote:
<quoted text> well, I do consume lots of ginger, ms. hatheist
you are the hater here
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#152197 Feb 7, 2013
I remember the correct quotation that you subsequently tried to back fill incorrectly.
Langoliers wrote:
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You don't remember the LDS statement from Star Trek IV?
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#152198 Feb 7, 2013
Some porn is sick. I often see old people looking at this long haired guy in a nappy with blood coming out of his side, head, hands and feet. Really sick stuff. What if kids saw it?
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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LOL!
Paying for site upkeep and advertising is supporting porn ... and the real war on women.
Fess up, you hate women.
I, believe me, I would love to return to my old perverted tastes, and try and talk myself into believing that these women are empowered, and just showing us how they love what they do, and it makes them feel like a goddess.
But then I put my big boy pants on, and got a reality check. Rape is up. Objectification of women is up. Men are more piggish than ever, me being no exception until I grew up.
So fess up.

Since: Nov 12

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#152201 Feb 7, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Some porn is sick. I often see old people looking at this long haired guy in a nappy with blood coming out of his side, head, hands and feet. Really sick stuff. What if kids saw it?
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You wear your illiteracy like a badge of honor.

Since: Nov 12

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#152202 Feb 7, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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You have no proof of god, no witness to miracles and no evidence that any of it took place.
Yet you continue to lie about god and build buildings for your cult of liars.
Your cult tells us to be honest, but you can't even be honest about how fossils disprove your stories.
What hope is there for you to live successfully in a society where you can't even accept basic scientific facts?
And this from someone who thinks Shelock Holmes is a housing project. LOL!

Since: Nov 12

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#152203 Feb 7, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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The problem is that you criticise givemeliberties choice not from a point of intelligence, or rationality or facts or reason.
You hate porn because you're a theist. Its that simple.
Why not just be honest about it? Like your cult tells you to be?
Just admit you are predjudiced for no other reason than the fact that you hallucinate a god and you are part of a cult of idiot's who love to judge others, while lying to each other.
We criticize gimmeliberty because he thinks his sh-t don't stink.
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#152204 Feb 7, 2013
Popular fiction. Much like the bible.
BBSting wrote:
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And this from someone who thinks Shelock Holmes is a housing project. LOL!

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#152205 Feb 7, 2013
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>Some porn is sick. I often see old people looking at this long haired guy in a nappy with blood coming out of his side, head, hands and feet. Really sick stuff. What if kids saw it?
Have you ever seen the whole snuff flick?

Truly sick stuff.
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#152206 Feb 7, 2013
But at least Mel Gibson's "not Dad" invented the table.
Aerobatty wrote:
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Have you ever seen the whole snuff flick?
Truly sick stuff.

Since: Apr 09

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#152207 Feb 7, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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I gave historical detail, friend.
What arguments did they make? I don't know, I wasn't their. For those kinds of details you'd actual have to take the time to read lot of historical material on the Church Fathers.
All claims are subject to the scientific method ... 2000 years ago. They are no longer testable, since the time is past. Thus, with historical evidence you can either accept what people back then accepted, or call them liars and prove that they lied. Or you can be a coward, and reject what they witnessed first hand, while refusing to call the liars so you avoid the burden of proof.
Those are you options.
Same holds true for ANY historical figure. If they were tried centuries ago, when who are we to call the judges and jury liars and reverse the conviction?
As for science, and the methodology, that began with the Church. The first universities began with the Church (in the West, not the whole world.) The Big Bang theory, for example, was from a Catholic priest, which was rejected mind you by the whole scientific community based only on anti-religious prejudices. Some 35 places on the moon are named for Christians.
Science did not come out of vacuum, it came from Christianity, who in turn preserved all the Greek literature they could.
Who was first to convert to Christianity? The intellectuals. First the Jews, then the Greeks, the most learned men of the ancient world at the time.
Really, this is common knowledge, my friend. There is no separation of Christianity and science, never has been, and never will be. We gave birth to it., which is fitting for a religion that claims to be the only way to God.
Or, do you just think it is a coincidence that the most advanced and scientific civilization on earth (Western Europe) and its Renaissance, Age of Reason, and Age of Enlightenment, just spawned from goo?
Christianity gave birth to science?

There has never been a seperation between science and Christianity?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Sorry..AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh man...and you say other people don't understand history?

Wow..

Since: Mar 11

United States

#152208 Feb 7, 2013
The dirty little secret is, women like to have sex and enjoy it with a capable partner. The last part hitting you a little to close to home eh?

I adore women and fight for their rights from being trampled on by Christholes.
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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LOL!
Paying for site upkeep and advertising is supporting porn ... and the real war on women.
Fess up, you hate women.
I, believe me, I would love to return to my old perverted tastes, and try and talk myself into believing that these women are empowered, and just showing us how they love what they do, and it makes them feel like a goddess.
But then I put my big boy pants on, and got a reality check. Rape is up. Objectification of women is up. Men are more piggish than ever, me being no exception until I grew up.
So fess up.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#152209 Feb 7, 2013
Just the leaders, the sheep like yourself were just easily duped by the delusion.
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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So, is it true then that you would assert that everyone that supported Christianity in its earliest days are liars and frauds?

Since: Mar 11

United States

#152210 Feb 7, 2013
It would warp them and lead to hatred of others. I would never allow that filth to be shown to children.
Thinking wrote:
Some porn is sick. I often see old people looking at this long haired guy in a nappy with blood coming out of his side, head, hands and feet. Really sick stuff. What if kids saw it?
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Since: Mar 11

United States

#152211 Feb 7, 2013
Sweaty rich Roman scribes who never met Jesus nor even spoke his language 50-100 years later that they overheard from street mystics were the apostles?
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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The apostles, silly, and everyone that witnessed the event, and later put it down to paper, and wrote about it. What exactly do you think the New Testament is? It's a collection of historical records, of course.
No witnesses, no people that saw Jesus and witnessed His Resurrection, no Christianity.
Imhotep

United States

#152212 Feb 7, 2013
Turkey wrote:
<quoted text> you're just another pompous fool. Get a real job misfit.
Turkey
Summation: child, throwing tantrum due to total inability to sustain a lucid argument. Resorts to insults, a clear indication of desperation.

I refuse to argue with idiots, they reduce me to their level then beat me with experience.

Since: Dec 11

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#152215 Feb 7, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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Negative. All of history is the data and the supporting evidence.
No, it isn't, as I've already explained. That isn't supporting evidence of Christianity's claims at all.
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
And no, the Renaissance (Spiritual Rebirth?), Age of Reason and Enlightenment were religious endeavors.
The Age of Reason and Enlightenment OPPOSED religion, superstition, and faith in favor of reason and evidence.
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
Were do you get your sources of history? Not only do you outright lie and claim I provided no details, you then accuse me of what you yourself are doing?
You didn't provide any details.

- What evidence and arguments did early Christians use to convert "atheists"?
- What claims were subjected to the scientific method?
- What scientific training did any of those early Christians have?
- What parts of the Bible include the scientific method or promote scientific/skeptical thinking?
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
There is no such thing as secular. Prove that there is.
Secular refers to anything not inherently religious. Reason is secular. Science is secular. Math is secular. Eating a hamburger is secular. Making a post on Topix is secular.
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
And if you want proof, then you'd have to ask those that witnessed events 2000 years ago.
The idea that they HAD any proof is your claim and you must support it.

It's baffling that you think this is a good argument for believing something that has no evidence to support it.

"People believed it back then. Prove them wrong!"

Since: Dec 11

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#152216 Feb 7, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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But then I put my big boy pants on, and got a reality check. Rape is up. Objectification of women is up. Men are more piggish than ever, me being no exception until I grew up.
So fess up.
Rape has been going down for 20 years.

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