Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

There are 242993 comments on the Webbunny tumblelog story from Jul 18, 2009, titled Atheism requires as much faith as religion?. In it, Webbunny tumblelog reports that:

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Webbunny tumblelog.

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#152166 Feb 6, 2013
The_Box wrote:
<quoted text>
You didn't give one detail.
<quoted text>
And now you admit that you have no details.
<quoted text>
You're making a claim. Support it.
<quoted text>
They didn't even have the scientific method 2000 years ago. You have no provided even a single shred of evidence that anyone back then subjected the claims of Christianity to scientific scrutiny. Hell, you haven't shown that they were subjected to ANY scrutiny.
That was a pre-scientific era full of superstition. Even the Bible shows it. In Acts 28, Paul gets bitten by a snake, and the locals immediately think he's a god because he didn't drop dead. In Acts 14, a gimpy guy stands up when Paul and Barnabas show up and the locals think they're Hermes and Zeus.
This was a PRIMITIVE era.
<quoted text>
You don't have historical evidence; you have religious legend.
<quoted text>
Then why don't you apply that standard to other religious figures? Other religious texts talk about deities performing miracles and interacting with people. Why don't you accept all these claims?
<quoted text>
Because they were never tried.
You still can't give me one argument they used.
You still can't give me one claim that was subjected to the scientific method.
<quoted text>
No, it didn't. It may have largely come from Christians (and earlier pushed by the pagan Greeks), but that is a significant difference. Nothing in Christianity itself promotes scientific reasoning.
<quoted text>
It started as a Jewish cult; of course it started with Jews. They weren't intellectuals though. Christianity's appeal with primarily with the downtrodden. It was an underdog's religion.
<quoted text>
The Age of Reason and Enlightenment were primarily secular endeavors. They CHALLENGED superstition, faith, and religion; they didn't endorse them.
Science is a process that seeks natural answers to the universe's questions. This is in direct opposition to religion.
Primitive?
By what standard?
We are very primitive now, are we not? Is not the notion of being "primitive" subjective and relative?
Very arrogant indeed if you think you are smarter than ancient peoples.

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#152167 Feb 6, 2013
The_Box wrote:
<quoted text>
You didn't give one detail.
<quoted text>
And now you admit that you have no details.
<quoted text>
You're making a claim. Support it.
<quoted text>
They didn't even have the scientific method 2000 years ago. You have no provided even a single shred of evidence that anyone back then subjected the claims of Christianity to scientific scrutiny. Hell, you haven't shown that they were subjected to ANY scrutiny.
That was a pre-scientific era full of superstition. Even the Bible shows it. In Acts 28, Paul gets bitten by a snake, and the locals immediately think he's a god because he didn't drop dead. In Acts 14, a gimpy guy stands up when Paul and Barnabas show up and the locals think they're Hermes and Zeus.
This was a PRIMITIVE era.
<quoted text>
You don't have historical evidence; you have religious legend.
<quoted text>
Then why don't you apply that standard to other religious figures? Other religious texts talk about deities performing miracles and interacting with people. Why don't you accept all these claims?
<quoted text>
Because they were never tried.
You still can't give me one argument they used.
You still can't give me one claim that was subjected to the scientific method.
<quoted text>
No, it didn't. It may have largely come from Christians (and earlier pushed by the pagan Greeks), but that is a significant difference. Nothing in Christianity itself promotes scientific reasoning.
<quoted text>
It started as a Jewish cult; of course it started with Jews. They weren't intellectuals though. Christianity's appeal with primarily with the downtrodden. It was an underdog's religion.
<quoted text>
The Age of Reason and Enlightenment were primarily secular endeavors. They CHALLENGED superstition, faith, and religion; they didn't endorse them.
Science is a process that seeks natural answers to the universe's questions. This is in direct opposition to religion.
Reading more of this nonsense, I see the problem.

What books have you read about history? How learned are you in history?

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#152168 Feb 6, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
<quoted text>On my Facebook page.
Givemeliberty wrote:

I am especially proud of my volunteer work and donations to the humanist cause. Every year I go to the Philippines and spend thousands on food,water, clothing and medicine for the needy there. After a horrific typhoon and flooding there I was there amongst others 14 hours a day handing out supplies, giving life saving injections and treatments to those who lost their home. I stood and watched as homeless children lined up easily 3 miles deep for a package of crackers sandwich fruit and bottle of water. Unwanted children who were born because the Christian ran theocracy light government makes it nearly impossible for a woman to obtain birth control. My wife is in pre-med classes and wants to practice medicine there free to help those poor children. Here in the states I collect donations for running in marathons with the money going to children's charities and cancer or HIV awareness programs.
I have seen first hand time and time again the damage and heart breaking situations brought on by theists. The same theists who come crawling to us to help fix their mess! Oh but while we are fixing it are we thanked? Nope. We barely get the figurative broom in hand and they are shrieking at us for not believing in their imaginary friend.
Honor? I guess it is a relative term. The dozen of urban low income students I assist for free with their biology and pharmaceutical homework at two different colleges locally would probably say good ole KJ is an alright dude.
Now if coming on topix and giving the theists a little taste of backbone, the theists who try to intimidate and silence non believers because they think we should all be meek and humble and tolerate their abuse and repeated logical fallacies makes me vile, Without reason, Disrespectful, In someone's opinion? So be it, hmmm I will chuckle about how vile And disrespectful I am Friday at U of L for the 6 hours I am assisting the students there as a volunteer. Or perhaps this summer as I am passing out thousands of dollars worth of free medicine and other essentials trying to save some more homeless from dying. Yes I was walking by a group of people there and they were huddled together praying loudly and crying. I looked in and a young girl was on the ground dying of dehydration. Instead of getting her water and rushing her to the hospital they stood there holding hands and praying! I grabbed my cell phone and called for an ambulance and started trying to get her to drink. Slowly she sipped the water as the praying continued. The ambulance came after almost an hour and reluctantly took her to the hospital, the paramedic said she was good as dead and best leave it in the hands of Jesus same thing the crowd thought. She died 18 hours later. They didn't even know her name and couldn't figure it out.
I guess I'll somehow deal with being called disrespectful.
<quoted text>

Baaaaahaaaaaahaaaaa
Baaaaahaaaaaahaaaaa
Baaaaahaaaaaahaaaaa!!!!!

"I am semi-retired except for collecting and inspecting my rental properties. I live comfortably off my stock dividends, porn sites I own, early retirement from work and rental properties here in the states and in the Philippines. "

OMG. It's getting better all the time!!!

Baaaaahaaaaaahaaaaa!!!!

You're retired except for Porn and your wife is still in school!

Baaaaahaaaaaahaaaaa
Please stop!!!!

Lol BAAAAAHAAAAHAAAAA !!!!

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#152169 Feb 6, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>Because you're one of those dishonest lying creationists who haven't yet come to terms with your cult being a fraud.
No that's not it,

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#152170 Feb 6, 2013
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>SB = you're a Sad Bastard (using your Star Trek IV rules)
You don't remember the LDS statement from Star Trek IV?

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#152171 Feb 6, 2013
BBSting wrote:
<quoted text>This bona fide braggart was trying to solicit donations for the cause on his own thread. You'd think he'd have enough money from his porn enterprises alone to fund the entire Filipino campaign.
Ohhh I see, he's setting up a scam!

Fitting!

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#152172 Feb 6, 2013
madscot wrote:
<quoted text>Yeh, he makes tons of money off you perverted christians.
Are you his book keeper?

Oh I see just another lie from an atheist.
Go figure.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#152173 Feb 6, 2013
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>You probably blocked out all memories of your childhood after the "priest/pastor sessions".
I don't think so, I remember swimming to the egg just fine.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#152174 Feb 6, 2013
No no no no no. There was no reason to share your favorites list with us.

I just pay for the site upkeep and advertising, I have a firm who actually selects and posts new videos and pictures. People like to go and watch free adult entertainment streaming YouTube style to their computer or cell phone and I collect from ad revenue.

Ok I will let you get back to your favorites lost there.
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
<quoted text>
You mean, you make money from thousands of scenes of women being gangbanged, ejaculated on repeatedly, demeaned in infinite ways, with fantasis of rape, and subjugation of women as animals to men that act like animals?
Dude, if YOU don't have a problem with that, then you probably are the problem, and why rape, sex slavery, and rampant objectification of women that feminists complain about is a serious social concern.
Such a huge concern, that even State Atheist nations like Cuba, China, and the former USSR regulated the hell out of it.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#152175 Feb 6, 2013
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>One thing men should not ask River Tam: "Can I be in your band?"
I'm with you on that one!

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#152176 Feb 6, 2013
Clem nailed it! Christholes live in a bubble. Their so called god coming to live with people myth was done hundreds of times before the myth of Jesus was written.
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>
"only religion where God Himself came doen to live amongst humans"
You should get knowledge on other religions before you make stuff up! The Indian religions also say God has come down to live on earth, it's your word against ours!
I don't agree with this 'Jainism person' though, even the Bible teaches good. Jainism is a philosophy that i personally don't agree with, even too much sugar can be poisonous!!

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#152177 Feb 6, 2013
Look in the mirror.
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
I want to know what a religious bigot looks like.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#152178 Feb 6, 2013
Just someone wrote:
<quoted text>This langoliers is a complete nut job.Self absorbed egomaniac.
I alway strive to be the best. Thank you.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#152179 Feb 6, 2013
This is beyond grotesque, beyond mental illness, this is sociopath pure and simple. This is what Christianity has made you, an animal.
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
God doesn’t answer every prayer as I would like but there are reasons why. You mentioned the Jews in the death camps. The atrocities against the Jews resulted in a new nation being born. That nation is Israel, created in 1948.
If it weren’t for the Holocaust there would be no Israel today. It took something so horrible to bring the majority of the world together to fulfill bible prophecy. Isaiah 11:12

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#152180 Feb 6, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
...Science is exactly what any religion worth its salt teaches. Science is merely another word for knowledge, and a reliable method of coming to that knowledge. That is very much in line with religion, is it not?...
Hahahaha hahahahaha hahahahah ahahahahahaha oh hehehehehe hahahahahahaha ho ho ho hahahahahahaha he ha hohohohoho ha ha he he ho hahahahahahaha!

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#152181 Feb 6, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
...
But that is not true of Christianity, which depends upon factual claims, not beliefs accepted without challenge.
...
Aaaaah, stop it! Hahahahahaha hohohohoho hehehehehehe!

My sides are splitting!

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#152182 Feb 6, 2013
Yes Christianity is pathetic, zero historical proof Jesus even existed let alone did his magic tricks.
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
<quoted text>
I just described in detail why you Christianity is worthless. Period. If that is news to you, it is because you never understood it to begin with, or have too much assumptions to change your mind at this point.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#152183 Feb 6, 2013
Clementia wrote:
LOL, thanks, but sorry if i push your head under the water and try to drown u! It happens, when u panic!!
I'm singin', quickly put tape on the windows!!!! I saw it in a film, it must work.
Where's Tide? I wanna tell him about a film.
Hahahahaha ho ho...sorry. I'm still laughing at that Yahoo.

What film?

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#152184 Feb 6, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
<quoted text>
Negative. All of history is the data and the supporting evidence.
And no, the Renaissance (Spiritual Rebirth?), Age of Reason and Enlightenment were religious endeavors.
Were do you get your sources of history? Not only do you outright lie and claim I provided no details, you then accuse me of what you yourself are doing?
I am not here to make assertions, merely refute those of atheists, and you.
There is no such thing as secular. Prove that there is. It was not even a word until recent times, let alone a concept.
And if you want proof, then you'd have to ask those that witnessed events 2000 years ago. You cannot ask anyone now. You know this, but you refuse to acknowledge it, yes? Now, the burden is on you to show that the dead were liars and frauds. Got proof?
Aside from the fact that asking someone if their claim is true isn't good proof...
Who were these witnesses and what did they witness?

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#152185 Feb 6, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
Hahahahaha ho ho...sorry. I'm still laughing at that Yahoo.
What film?
Kidding aside, Clementine was asking for you, here or on another thread, a few hours ago.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Atheism Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Atheists Aren't the Problem, Christian Intolera... (Oct '14) 42 min Thinking 9,163
News "Science vs. Religion: What Scientists Really T... (Jan '12) 3 hr Secret Admirer 19,741
News Aliens and evolution (Jun '12) 9 hr lozzza 6,160
Should atheists have the burden of proof? Mon Thinking 15
Atheists have morals too! Sun par five 3
News Atheism 101: The anti-intellectualism of religion Sun QUITTNER Jne 28 2015 53
Science Disproves Evolution (Aug '12) Sun thetruth 2,280
More from around the web