Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#152119 Feb 6, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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I don't agree that religion came to teach us about the material world, we have eyes and ears to do that ourselves.
No, true Hinduism believes that spirituality is the only way to understanding and then becoming one with the 1. We do not believe this is a competition between religions, u can follow different rituals, but your path and goal must be the same, there is only 1 way to God, that's it! Try to do good and try not to do bad. We call it dharma, anyone who follows dharma, they can be from any religion, but they are the only ones who will obtain God. this is a passage from the sikh scriptures, it might help u understand;
Of all religions, the best religion is to chant the Name of the Lord and maintain pure conduct. Of all religious rituals, the most sublime ritual is to erase the filth of the dirty mind in the Company of the Holy. Of all efforts, the best effort is to chant the Name of the Lord in the heart, forever. Of all speech, the most ambrosial speech is to hear the Lord's Praise and chant it with the tongue. Of all places, the most sublime place, O Nanak, is that heart in which the Name of the Lord abides.||8||3||(Ang 266)
chanting the name of God is not just saying his name over and over again, it has a deep meaning. His name is truth!
Our religions respect other people's belief. We think we are all the chosen people, the human species as a whole, their is no special race or religion, but i know u think different from us.
No, the scriptures talk about the cast system, it's very old, near the time of Krishna, so about 4000 or 5000 years? maybe..i'm guessing now.
I understand what u r trying to say about angels but that is christian philosophy not ours. Shiva is not an angel, he is more like a characteristic of God.
Let me tell u this...Islam/British empire destroyed India in every way! It did no good, NEVER!
No, sati has something to do with Shiva and all that sh*t, it got nothing to do with Islam. After the Husband died, greedy family did not want to give anything to the wife, so they had her burnt alive! It was a way of controlling women. It's too deep to go into.
Mm,

Well, your Hindu culture is rather large and diversified, the bit about the Sati was a Hindu claim from someone else, but I don't remember the details.

In one way, you actual describe what Judaism, or the Israelites believed before Christ. That all people had to life rightly to and follow the conscience. Or as we say, God's laws are written on our hearts, so even the pre-Christian had only one way to God, exactly as you stated. That was the universal way.

But that changed with Jesus in our faith, now He is the only way, because the old way was not working, and mankind was sinning to much for the way you described to work. So He came up with a new plan, His Church. Does this not differ from your religion, that God came to us to save us, that God paved the way to heaven?

You stated this: "Our religions respect other people's belief. We think we are all the chosen people, the human species as a whole, their is no special race or religion, but i know u think different from us."

That my friend is very offensive, we do not think any differently at all. Race has never played a role in Christianity, but many, like some British, perverted it to be racial. We also respect all cultures, and do not destroy them as the Muslims do. Armenia to this day still practices old pagan rituals with the understanding that it is cultural, not religious now. Halloween is pagan, but still practiced in respect to the old ways.

And I know Catholics in India adapt many Hindu beliefs and culture as well, bringing the new way to God, while retaining the wonderful cultures of all peoples and races.

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#152120 Feb 6, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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It's completely true of Christianity. Every important aspect of Christianity is taken purely on faith, in SPITE of facts.
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Oh, please. What intellectual arguments did they make to convert these "atheists"?
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Tell me what aspects of Christianity were subjected to the scientific method.
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Christians reject the evidence and rational thought in favor of faith.
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Or he was a little crazy. Or the Gospels are not accurate portrayals of what Jesus said. Or the Gospels are largely legendary. Or the Gospels are mythological.
Every one of these things is far more likely that Jesus being a god.
I just described in detail why you are wrong on this count, and you just repeat the same thing.

Christianity is worthless without science and rational thought. Period. If that is news to you, it is because you never understood it to begin with, or have too much assumptions to change your mind at this point.

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#152121 Feb 6, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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Atheist believe in the very beginning RNA and DNA self assembled into complex organism. From that self assembly all life spawned into what it is today.
For RNA and DNA to self assemble would be the equivalent of fine sports car like the Porsche 911 Carrera 4 GTS building itself.
Atheist believe this without any scientific proof complex life forms can derive out of sterile lifeless material and self construct. That my friend takes a hell of a lot of faith.
I dunno if your term "believe" is quite accurate.

But we're getting closer, eh?
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharps...
Turkey

Oswego, NY

#152122 Feb 6, 2013
Mikko wrote:
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Eat a bar of soap!
well, I do consume lots of ginger, ms. hatheist

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#152123 Feb 6, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Oh, it's just a song.
I'm a very good swimmer and I will definitely save you.
One more stanza. All together now:
Broke the record under water
I thought she was doin' fine
I wasn't nervous until the service
That they held for Clementine
LOL, thanks, but sorry if i push your head under the water and try to drown u! It happens, when u panic!!

I'm singin', quickly put tape on the windows!!!! I saw it in a film, it must work.

Where's Tide? I wanna tell him about a film.
Turkey

Oswego, NY

#152124 Feb 6, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Lol!
Good one.
Oh wait...
You were being serious, weren't you.
Domestic fowl can be very serious. Now ask Dave for forgiveness.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#152125 Feb 6, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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I just described in detail why you are wrong on this count, and you just repeat the same thing.
You gave not a SINGLE detail.

- What arguments did they make to convert "atheists"?
- What claims were subjected to the scientific method?

You give no response to the numerous explanations that are all superior to "Jesus is a god".
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
Christianity is worthless without science and rational thought.
Christianity involves neither. You haven't been able to provide a single example to the contrary.
Turkey

Oswego, NY

#152126 Feb 6, 2013
madscot wrote:
Are you another angry young man? Eat some shrimp and check on your wifes whereabouts.
Turkey

Oswego, NY

#152127 Feb 6, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Turkey: "Gobble gobble"
Have you considered an asian girl?

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#152128 Feb 6, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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You actually could be closer to the truth than ever before, minus the beast crap. But the paradox is there , like it (believe it)...or not.
A beast is a creature without higher thought. It exists in the here and now only.

Numbers have been worshiped for a long time. You have the Kabbalah, theologians once pondered how many angels on the head of a pin, and now you have theoretical physicists counting universes.
Thinking

Uckfield, UK

#152129 Feb 6, 2013
Sources?
Dave Nelson wrote:
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A beast is a creature without higher thought.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#152130 Feb 6, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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Mm,
Well, your Hindu culture is rather large and diversified, the bit about the Sati was a Hindu claim from someone else, but I don't remember the details.
In one way, you actual describe what Judaism, or the Israelites believed before Christ. That all people had to life rightly to and follow the conscience. Or as we say, God's laws are written on our hearts, so even the pre-Christian had only one way to God, exactly as you stated. That was the universal way.
But that changed with Jesus in our faith, now He is the only way, because the old way was not working, and mankind was sinning to much for the way you described to work. So He came up with a new plan, His Church. Does this not differ from your religion, that God came to us to save us, that God paved the way to heaven?
You stated this: "Our religions respect other people's belief. We think we are all the chosen people, the human species as a whole, their is no special race or religion, but i know u think different from us."
That my friend is very offensive, we do not think any differently at all. Race has never played a role in Christianity, but many, like some British, perverted it to be racial. We also respect all cultures, and do not destroy them as the Muslims do. Armenia to this day still practices old pagan rituals with the understanding that it is cultural, not religious now. Halloween is pagan, but still practiced in respect to the old ways.
And I know Catholics in India adapt many Hindu beliefs and culture as well, bringing the new way to God, while retaining the wonderful cultures of all peoples and races.
People like to make stuff up, including hindu's, when they can't explain the evil in their religion they blame it on others.

It worked fine in India, Since the beginning of Hinduism and then Sikhism was created only 500 years ago, it implemented the same rules again! It worked perfectly even on a larger scale, but then the british came and it all went down hill!!!

But Christians are still sinning now, majority of the people at the time of Jesus did sin, his own disciples betrayed him. How was that not a sin?

But we believe our prophets were God too, we believe God comes over and over again.

I said the truth, I don't think u are going to hell for your belief in Christ, but I know christians think i'm going to hell for mine, they have said it straight to my face!

FYI, I live in England u know, i went to a christian school.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#152131 Feb 6, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Yeah, I know, with Bobby Darin.
Dude, can't you see I'm trying to impress Clementine?
Hmmmm....singing a song about a girl called Clementine who has drowned coz she was fat, is meant to impress me?

Oh, I'm SO impressed, come here i wanna give u an award coz i'm so impressed!*rolling my sleeves up*:-D

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#152132 Feb 6, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =fl6s1x9j4QQXX
I don't speak or understand your language! R u angry with me?

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#152133 Feb 6, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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LOL, thanks, but sorry if i push your head under the water and try to drown u! It happens, when u panic!!
I'm singin', quickly put tape on the windows!!!! I saw it in a film, it must work.
Where's Tide? I wanna tell him about a film.
I don't know what has happened to Tide.

He was here yesterday. I think....

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#152134 Feb 6, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Sources?
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Amusing, and quite telling.

Topix atheists always want an authority figure to tell them what is right and true. As long as they are humans. No ability to think on their own.

Guess they never got out of grade school. I wonder what causes that sort of arrested emotional development?
Thinking

Uckfield, UK

#152135 Feb 6, 2013
Straw man.

www.youtube.com/watch...
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Amusing, and quite telling.
Topix atheists always want an authority figure to tell them what is right and true. As long as they are humans. No ability to think on their own.
Guess they never got out of grade school. I wonder what causes that sort of arrested emotional development?

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#152136 Feb 6, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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Atheist believe in the very beginning RNA and DNA self assembled into complex organism. From that self assembly all life spawned into what it is today.
For RNA and DNA to self assemble would be the equivalent of fine sports car like the Porsche 911 Carrera 4 GTS building itself.
Atheist believe this without any scientific proof complex life forms can derive out of sterile lifeless material and self construct. That my friend takes a hell of a lot of faith.
Yawn...the only thing that all atheists agree on is that there is no god.

Seriously, in addition to being a monster and a troll, you're also pretty damn stupid...

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#152137 Feb 6, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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I don't know what has happened to Tide.
He was here yesterday. I think....
OK, I'll trying shouting out for him.

TIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE, WHERE R U?????? IF U CAN HEEEEAAR MEEEEEEE, GIVE ME A SIIIIGN, ANYYYYYTHIIIING!!!!

Since: Feb 13

Denver, CO

#152138 Feb 6, 2013
Humanity may be but a small part of a greater arena of life. And our unique expressions of goodness creativity and spirit would seem valuable even in a vast spectrum of intelligent expressions. It is time to look again at the meaning of God in light of a universe teaming with life. A more complete understanding could only strengthen my value for creation and for the Creator.

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