Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Nov 12

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#152018 Feb 6, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Givemeliberty wrote:
I am especially proud of my volunteer work and donations to the humanist cause. Every year I go to the Philippines and spend thousands on food,water, clothing and medicine for the needy there. After a horrific typhoon and flooding there I was there amongst others 14 hours a day handing out supplies, giving life saving injections and treatments to those who lost their home. I stood and watched as homeless children lined up easily 3 miles deep for a package of crackers sandwich fruit and bottle of water. Unwanted children who were born because the Christian ran theocracy light government makes it nearly impossible for a woman to obtain birth control. My wife is in pre-med classes and wants to practice medicine there free to help those poor children. Here in the states I collect donations for running in marathons with the money going to children's charities and cancer or HIV awareness programs.
I have seen first hand time and time again the damage and heart breaking situations brought on by theists. The same theists who come crawling to us to help fix their mess! Oh but while we are fixing it are we thanked? Nope. We barely get the figurative broom in hand and they are shrieking at us for not believing in their imaginary friend.
Honor? I guess it is a relative term. The dozen of urban low income students I assist for free with their biology and pharmaceutical homework at two different colleges locally would probably say good ole KJ is an alright dude.
Now if coming on topix and giving the theists a little taste of backbone, the theists who try to intimidate and silence non believers because they think we should all be meek and humble and tolerate their abuse and repeated logical fallacies makes me vile, Without reason, Disrespectful, In someone's opinion? So be it, hmmm I will chuckle about how vile And disrespectful I am Friday at U of L for the 6 hours I am assisting the students there as a volunteer. Or perhaps this summer as I am passing out thousands of dollars worth of free medicine and other essentials trying to save some more homeless from dying. Yes I was walking by a group of people there and they were huddled together praying loudly and crying. I looked in and a young girl was on the ground dying of dehydration. Instead of getting her water and rushing her to the hospital they stood there holding hands and praying! I grabbed my cell phone and called for an ambulance and started trying to get her to drink. Slowly she sipped the water as the praying continued. The ambulance came after almost an hour and reluctantly took her to the hospital, the paramedic said she was good as dead and best leave it in the hands of Jesus same thing the crowd thought. She died 18 hours later. They didn't even know her name and couldn't figure it out.
I guess I'll somehow deal with being called disrespectful.
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"I am semi-retired except for collecting and inspecting my rental properties. I live comfortably off my stock dividends, porn sites I own, early retirement from work and rental properties here in the states and in the Philippines. "
OMG. It's getting better all the time!!!
You're retired except for Porn and your wife is still in school!
Baaaaahaaaaaahaaaaa
Please stop!!!!
Lol BAAAAAHAAAAHAAAAA !!!!
This bona fide braggart was trying to solicit donations for the cause on his own thread. You'd think he'd have enough money from his porn enterprises alone to fund the entire Filipino campaign.

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#152019 Feb 6, 2013
BBSting wrote:
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This bona fide braggart was trying to solicit donations for the cause on his own thread. You'd think he'd have enough money from his porn enterprises alone to fund the entire Filipino campaign.
Yeh, he makes tons of money off you perverted christians.

Since: May 09

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#152020 Feb 6, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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I can't remember. Why?
You probably blocked out all memories of your childhood after the "priest/pastor sessions".

“What?”

Since: Oct 10

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#152021 Feb 6, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Not just my wallet, then.
*crosses legs*
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They were concerned about the bleeding.

Me, not so much.
Thinking

Uckfield, UK

#152022 Feb 6, 2013
One thing men should not ask River Tam: "Can I be in your band?"
River Tam wrote:
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They were concerned about the bleeding.
Me, not so much.

Since: Jan 11

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#152023 Feb 6, 2013
Ewwww.

“What?”

Since: Oct 10

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#152024 Feb 6, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
Ewwww.
I don't think your new avatar passed Topix judgement.

I had that problem with the "River Tam is Watching You....Masturbate" one.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#152025 Feb 6, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Wow....All the same chord with some open 5th.........when he finally play's a melodic lick its all diatonic, not real impressive. No dynamics either. Maybe a nice hollow body acoustic and some Brazilian Jazz or some nice classical, certainly more challenging. Just a thought, thanks for the video.
I was advertizing the guitar not the musician . lol
I just like ESP guitars, they make one for everybody.
Come with a lifetime warranty , and can be had in about any configuration and price range. I have an F body but the vipers are nice too.

http://davesguitar.com/wp-content/uploads/201...

Since: Jan 11

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#152026 Feb 6, 2013
River Tam wrote:
I don't think your new avatar passed Topix judgement.
I had that problem with the "River Tam is Watching You....Masturbate" one.
You don't see it?

I only put it up a few hours ago.

It's a variation of the vampire Alucard that I've used before.

I made one with a naked Japanese girl combined with the Tide logo, where the letters were transparent, and the naked Japanese girl was covered up by careful placement of the logo. I didn't cover her ass well enough.

Since: May 09

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#152027 Feb 6, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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You don't see it?
I only put it up a few hours ago.
It's a variation of the vampire Alucard that I've used before.
I made one with a naked Japanese girl combined with the Tide logo, where the letters were transparent, and the naked Japanese girl was covered up by careful placement of the logo. I didn't cover her ass well enough.
To overlook the ass can be a fatal mistake.

Always cover the ass.

Since: Jan 11

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#152028 Feb 6, 2013
scaritual wrote:
To overlook the ass can be a fatal mistake.
Always cover the ass.
That's the first thing they teach you at the academy, is to cover your partner's ass.

That way, when they sit down on the canvas, you get a good transfer. Well, that's what they taught at the art academy I went to.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#152029 Feb 6, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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There is mucho truth in what you say.
Topix atheists have the freedom to define reality the way they feel it should be, the world be damned. They will exercise their rights. Deal with it, world.
You're entitled to your own opinions.

You're not entitled to your own facts.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#152030 Feb 6, 2013
Turkey wrote:
<quoted text> No , that guy is smart and honest unlike all you lying hatheists. You need to get over your small dick syndrome.
Lol!

Good one.

Oh wait...

You were being serious, weren't you.

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#152031 Feb 6, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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You're entitled to your own opinions.
You're not entitled to your own facts.
I know, you are empowered to make your own. You are very creative in that.
uncle sam

Denver, CO

#152032 Feb 6, 2013
For the information of people on this forum, Langoliers is also a consistent poster on the Scabies Forum. He and his wife have been infected for well over a year. He consistently posts some very dangerous and toxic "cures" there that are very dangerous to a persons health. He does this acting like some kind of authority when he is not even cured himself.
He also created a whole thread under an alternate identity just for his own pathetic amusement. he really needs to be in a psychiatric ward.

I invite anyone to go on the Scabies forum and read the drivel he posts as a remedy and then go and find real answers as to how detrimental it is. He even highly recommends Lindane which has resulted in seizures and deaths.
Imhotep

Trenton, FL

#152033 Feb 6, 2013
Turkey wrote:
<quoted text> Our maker does no evil and there is no law against him. The entire earth and all its contents are counted as nothing to our arcane God. All you atheists need to hunble yourselves. He gives life and death with impunity. learn some respect you angnst ridden wacko.
Thank you for sharing your myth.

Myth enthusiasts will find this magical site a 'wonder to behold'.

http://www.godchecker.com/

Mythology Encyclopedia features over 3,700 weird and wonderful Supreme Beings, Demons, Spirits and Fabulous Beasts from all over the world.

Explore ancient legends and folklore, and discover Gods of everything from Fertility to Fluff!

;)

“you must not give faith”

Since: Jul 12

Leicester, UK

#152034 Feb 6, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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MythBusters: Without Religion there would be no War
Posted by Justin Ferriman
Christian Commentary
I can’t count the number of times I have heard this ‘argument’ on the internet from amateur atheists. Naturally, the more seasoned of us know that this is simply not true, but it seems to be a staple in atheistland that the newcomers love to recite.
I am not naive to the fact that religion is probably the reason most used to justify conflicts, but I strongly refute the idea that a warless world is only obtainable through the elimination of religion (human nature won’t allow it). I was looking around the internet for different wars that aren’t religiously driven to back my claim and I stumbled upon someones post in a forum. I don’t know who the author is, but it sums out my viewpoints on the matter pretty thoroughly. Enjoy
Much is said, today, on the issue of religious wars. Without question, religion has been (if only superficially) the banner of countless wars throughout history. Lists are often compiled, naming various instances of religious war (as, for example, this list).
One might reasonably ask, however, whether or not there is a corresponding list of non-religious wars. After all, if religion is really good for nothing but “starting wars,” then surely its elimination would do away with, or at least considerably diminish, the perpetuation of warfare across the globe.
Jack Perry has presented one such list of non-religious wars, as follows:
1.) The Seven Years’ War (Britain & France)
2.)The American Revolution
3.)The French Revolution
4.)The Napoleonic Wars (France & Europe)
5.)The Revolutions in the Americas
6.)The Wars to create and preserve the British Empire (Boer War, Irish Revolution, and the Great Game with Russia would all be examples)
7.)The American Civil War
8.)The Crimean War
9.)The Spanish-American War
10.)The Great War, The War to End All Wars, or World War I (whatever you want to call it)
11.)The Italian invasion of Ethiopia
12.)The Spanish Civil War
13.)Stalin’s invasions of Finland, the Baltic states, and Poland
14.)World War II
15.)The Chinese Revolution
16.)The Cold War, including but not limited to the Korean War, the Cuban Missile Crisis, the Vietnam War, the American intervention in Grenada, and the Soviet campaign in Afghanistan
17.)The Cultural Revolution in China (If you don’t want to call this a war I’ll concede it)
18.)Pol Pot’s Khmer Rouge Revolution
19.)The Falklands War
20.)The Persian Gulf War between Iran & Iraq
21.)The Persian Gulf War between the United Nations and Iraq
The Breakup of Yugoslavia (beginning with Slovenia).
http://de-conversion.com/2008/08/01/mythbuste...
I haven't claimed that without religion there would be no wars, the only thing I have claimed so far is that there are no moral actions (that we can agree on) that are unique to ether the religious or non-religious, but there are evil actions unique to the religious. That’s it ether you misunderstand my point which makes what you attack a straw man or you are avoiding my point with red herrings and straw men, I don’t know you well enough to conclude the latter so I’ll run with the former.
I hope this post clarifies my point and makes your relevant.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#152035 Feb 6, 2013
mtimber wrote:
How can a chemical fizz have destiny or purpose? How can you account for that as an atheist. I can account for that for you. You were created with the opportunity to live eternally with a loving God, that adores you. That is where your sense of hope and purpose comes from.
What you mean is that you believe that your god created people to place them in a situation to determine which ones could believe something absurd without evidence so that he could harvest them to praise him for eternity. You worth depends on that. People who fail are worth even less. That's what you call a purpose or meaning.

My life has more purpose than that without a god. You live yours like your waiting for a bus that won't come until after you've slumped over on the bench. Where's the meaning or purpose in that?

Unlike you, I feel connected to my world. I find meaning there.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#152036 Feb 6, 2013
mtimber wrote:
you then create a false sense of destiny and purpose that has no basis in reality and is shallow in form, to make up for the true destiny and purpose you have the opportunity to grasp.
You took the words right out of my mouth.

You have no reasonable expectation of any destiny after death, just hope. The whole show is very likely right in front of you - here and now. If you can't find meaning in that, you've been cheated by your faith.

“you must not give faith”

Since: Jul 12

Leicester, UK

#152037 Feb 6, 2013
mtimber wrote:
And this is the point with atheism.
It cannot account for the transcendent laws that it uses.
It also denies the laws it uses.
Revealing the simple fact of the controversy that rages in the human heart.
That God has revealed Himself to all men, through the transcendent laws of logic, uniformity and morality.
Yet they suppress that truth, so that they are not accountable to the owner of truth.
That suppression can be clearly seen by the contradictory appeal and denial of those laws by the atheist, as they squirm to avoid the unavoidable.
They then become reduced to absurdity, in their denial of those most basic of transcendental laws, that denial being required if they are to avoid God, and thus proving the very point they seek to avoid...
Examples or go away.

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