Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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Feb 3, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Then what do you think the purpose of having the incest story of Lot is?
To promote Abrahamic religious tradition and family values?

Don't forget, in the myth, Adam & Eve began it all, and then the Yahweh! decided it was time for a do over with relatives - again - after the flood.

That's a fantastic myth you've got there.

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Eagle12 wrote:
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Saul was a gang leader, murder, and terrorist. He was changed (Apostle Paul) and became a minister for Christ.
Moses was guilty of murdering a Federal Officer. Yet God chose him to lead his people.
David was guilty of conspiracy, murdering a career military officer so he could have his wife, lying, deception, adultery. Yet God forgave him.
Sampson was guilty of being a womanizer, fraternizing with the enemy. In the end God restored him.
Jeffery Dahmer was an evil atheist of the worst sort. God gave him his right mind and forgave him.
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You are seriously effed up...

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To promote Abrahamic religious tradition and family values?
Don't forget, in the myth, Adam & Eve began it all, and then the Yahweh! decided it was time for a do over with relatives - again - after the flood.
That's a fantastic myth you've got there.
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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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If you truly think that, you're perpetually disconnected from society.
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We call that reality.
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See? You have no clue what's out there.
Perhaps it's just the town you live in that's full of those dullards.
You'll never know though, you remain hidden behind a screen.
I feel bad for you - you're missing out on life.
So you prefer not knowing what people really think or would really do in a given situation then trusting them.

Detail exactly what benefit you have when conversing "in person" over that of online.

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Detail exactly what benefit you have when conversing "in person" over that of online.
Disadvantages of communicating on the Internet:

1) Lying online is much easier than it is face to face.

2) Hiding behind the anonymity of a computer gives people more courage to say things they wouldn't ordinarily say to someone in person.

3) You can't read body language online. You can't see how your words affect another.

4) Faceless communication online allows individuals to bypass a lot of shyness and awkwardness. Wallflowers can become stars in chat rooms.

5) The ability to develop alternative online personas provides a psychological escape for some people.

6) Many find more excitement in the virtual world than they do in their real lives!

7) Innuendo, intonation, and touch are all absent on the Internet.

8) Trading intimacies in chatrooms can lead to addictive and compulsive behaviors that can destroy relationships in the real world.

9) Anonymous bullying using several identities is much easier online. I believe people who engage in this practice are called flamers.

10) There can be no reciprocity communicating at a distance.
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Feb 3, 2013
 
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Defend the impossible? No I'm here to discuss the possible vs impossible. Which leaves only the improbable, and
"once you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." (Spock)
The only thing proven not to work, is your mind.
Spock! you comic uneducated ass , try Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.

Life springing into existence on its own is impossible, leaving what?
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Feb 3, 2013
 
Imhotep wrote:
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Where have you been?
Spending too much time in church instead of a library?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/05/...
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/
http://kspark.kaist.ac.kr/Jesus/Intelligence%...
Praise the puddle of goo I'm converted, those 3 links absolutely have shown me that a swirling primordial gooish soup could fart life into being , and then crawl out of its goo to form all life .Yes Sir its the atheist life for me now.

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Imhotep wrote:
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There is NO out of context.
The Bible contains a warrant for trafficking in humans, for ethnic cleansing, for slavery, for bride-price, and for indiscriminate massacre, but we are not bound by any of it because it was put together by crude, uncultured goat herders.
Religious exhortation and telling people, telling children, that if they donít do the right thing, theyíll go to terrifying punishments or unbelievable rewards, thatís making a living out of lying to children.
Your religion is man-made. Even the men who made it cannot agree on what their prophets or redeemers or gurus actually said or did.
Judaism has some advantages over Christianity in that, for example, it does not proselytize, except among Jews and it does not make the cretinous mistake of saying that the Messiah has already made his appearance.
However, along with Islam and Christianity, it does insist that some turgid and contradictory and sometimes evil and mad texts, obviously written by fairly unexceptional humans, are in fact the word of god.
Right and atheism has this squeaky clean image in the last 100 years?

Man we are talking hundreds of millions have been slaughtered by atheist regimes. Many starved to death by their failed policies.

You would have a good argument if Atheism had a clean record but atheism doesnít. Itís bad and itís exceeds the numbers of those killed in biblical historic times by many thousands of times over.

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Still waiting for the totalitarian who stated he was killing people in the name of atheism as the Salem witch trials burned people to death in the name of Jesus, with pride may I add. And waiting and waiting and waiting...... Zzzzzzz
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Right and atheism has this squeaky clean image in the last 100 years?
Man we are talking hundreds of millions have been slaughtered by atheist regimes. Many starved to death by their failed policies.
You would have a good argument if Atheism had a clean record but atheism doesnít. Itís bad and itís exceeds the numbers of those killed in biblical historic times by many thousands of times over.

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Yawn
Spare me the sermon... The book speaks for itself. I've read it.
Utter nonsense, copied from older myths.
Much ado about nothing of substance.
The New Testament writer of the Gospel of John attempted to portray Jesus as a valid prophet who was predicted by Moses.
Linking Jesus to miracles was part of that process.
Then they evolve Jesus further by claiming he is now the NEW savior which people must believe in.
In doing so, these writers portray Jesus as giving instructions which contradict God's word in the Old Testament.
Because Jesus presumed to speak things in God's name which God NEVER commanded any of his prophets to say, Jesus qualifies as a false prophet.
Jesus was also put to death, fulfilling Deut 18:20.!
Christians are always proclaiming that Jesus fulfilled hundreds of Old Testament "prophecies" but you can be sure that the fulfillment of Deut 18:20 by Jesus is one example you won't hear Christians advertise to the world.
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Spare me your sermon, nothing new, itís all from atheist web sites. Nothing original, all old and lost arguments.

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Right and atheism has this squeaky clean image in the last 100 years?
Man we are talking hundreds of millions have been slaughtered by atheist regimes. Many starved to death by their failed policies.
You would have a good argument if Atheism had a clean record but atheism doesnít. Itís bad and itís exceeds the numbers of those killed in biblical historic times by many thousands of times over.
This is very untrue, but what do you expect from a group that dont care about FACTS, Religion is responsible for just about every war in history not to mention the bigotry and lies religion spreads. Atheism may not have a perfect record because after all we are human but it dose have a far better repetition then religion ever will ....

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Daffy nobody is surprised that many of your bible myth heroes are products of incest. Just look at the insane sht they wrote! The earth is square flat and resting on top of pillars!
Lmfao!
So who was the strange Arab man who went into your Dad's hospital room and converted him to Islam? Was it Muhammad?:)
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Liars hate themselves. This is why they lie so the truth can be hid. For in their heart are deep seated secrets they want to keep hidden and buried under all those lies.

So what are you hiding?

This may explain the ugliness that you continuously expound.

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This is very untrue, but what do you expect from a group that dont care about FACTS, Religion is responsible for just about every war in history not to mention the bigotry and lies religion spreads. Atheism may not have a perfect record because after all we are human but it dose have a far better repetition then religion ever will ....
World War I - Religious? Not.

World War II- Religious? Not.

Korean War- Religious? Not.

Iraq War- Religious? Not.

American Revolution- Religious? Not.

War of 1812- Religious? Not.

War for Texas Independence- Religious? Not.

It looks like you have made some pretty exaggerated claims about nearly all wars are religious by nature.

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Still waiting for the totalitarian who stated he was killing people in the name of atheism as the Salem witch trials burned people to death in the name of Jesus, with pride may I add. And waiting and waiting and waiting...... Zzzzzzz
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Iím not a student of the Salem Witch Trials.

I do know about Stalin, Pol Pot and many other murderous communist leaders who killed hundreds of millions.

So how many millions died in the Salem Witch Trials?

Waiting,.....Zzzzzzzzz

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World War I - Religious?yes.
World War II- Religious?yes.
Korean War- Religious? yes.
Iraq War- Religious? yes.
American Revolution- Religious? yes.
War of 1812- Religious? yes.
War for Texas Independence- Religious? yes.
It looks like you have made some pretty exaggerated claims about nearly all wars are religious by nature.
Every war you mention did have a religious base. it may not have been your religion but it was some religion. dont believe me that's fine but the fact of the matter is that religion dose more harm then good and just reading the bible can show you that....

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Every war you mention did have a religious base. it may not have been your religion but it was some religion. dont believe me that's fine but the fact of the matter is that religion dose more harm then good and just reading the bible can show you that....
If you want to have credibility in your argument. Then you need to back up your claim with facts. We can start with WW I if you like and you explain to me why this was a religious war in your view.

One more I forgot to list was the Vietnam War. It wasnít a religious war either. Anyone can make these wild and exaggerated claims. Backing them up with real facts is difficult when the claim is baseless.

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Eagle12 wrote:
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If you want to have credibility in your argument. Then you need to back up your claim with facts. We can start with WW I if you like and you explain to me why this was a religious war in your view.
One more I forgot to list was the Vietnam War. It wasnít a religious war either. Anyone can make these wild and exaggerated claims. Backing them up with real facts is difficult when the claim is baseless.
From my history book ...

Serbians who were mistreated by the Austrian Government who enforced higher taxes to pay for churches. So Austria invaded Serbia angering other countries which turned into everyone picking sides and fighting each other. So technically religion was a root cause of World War 1. And World War 2 was also mainly caused by religion. Primarily Catholicism cause these wars.
Just like most wars, World War 1 was started by religion.
Plus there are many other country's that have wars that dont involve America that are mostly religious ....

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Feb 3, 2013
 
And lets not forget that Adolf Hitler was a Roman Catholic and responsible for the holocaust. So one religion trying to take out another ....

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