Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#151483 Feb 3, 2013
_Muad_ Dib _ wrote:
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Let us gather for the passing of Shai-Hulud , who we will ride to victory.
Ah, a fellow Lovecraftian. Nice to meet you.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#151484 Feb 3, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> I love classical acoustic , even some of the Darling's and Andy stuff, though like you the electrics and rack effects stomp boxes and guys like Malmsteen , Vai , Satriani ,Gilmour, EVHare the kings.
The Darling boys were The Dillards. They only knew one speed to play at, full speed. The Country Gentlemen were much more versatile.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#151485 Feb 3, 2013
The_Box wrote:
So what's the difference between just saying someone is a god and someone is a superhuman?
It's the same thing. You're adding a claim on top of a claim. It doesn't actually SUPPORT the initial claim.
It's not the same thing, not at all. God isn't human and can't be "superhuman"....

I understand that you closed minded atheists have a need to turn everything into children's stories, but that doesn't make it true.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#151486 Feb 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Not that live close to me. ;)
But I do have friends, they're all in other countries or on the east coast, but meh.
I was kidding, but seriously? Is the communication only through the net & phones? No real interaction?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#151487 Feb 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
That would be interesting.
I'll bring Bud & a gun.
Aerobatty wrote:
That a threat?
Only to a p_ssy. Oh, hi Aero.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#151488 Feb 3, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
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Awe inspiring isn't it? ;)
So fulfilled they cavort in social arenas with godless heathens. Hmm God would object!
I do enjoy all the pageantry however. The RCC has superb costumes, rituals and buildings that put the other cults to $hame..
Does your sorry ass think this is a "social arena" and we're being "social"?!

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#151489 Feb 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Ah, a fellow Lovecraftian. Nice to meet you.
Laffin.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#151490 Feb 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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It's not the same thing, not at all. God isn't human and can't be "superhuman"....
It's the exact same thing.

There is a claim that is absurd/impossible. The claim is rejected for being absurd/impossible. The claimant says "It's not absurd/impossible for a superhuman/god."
RiversideRedneck wrote:
I understand that you closed minded atheists have a need to turn everything into children's stories, but that doesn't make it true.
I'm not closed-minded. I'm skeptical. You're gullible.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#151491 Feb 3, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>You are under the belief that the material world self-organized into biological life as the result of finding components laying about. You are ignoring the likely possibility this original assemblage could well have been designed, resulting in building blocks for further development. Abiogenesis and evolution are not necessarily the same thing. Adaptation, evolution, is demonstrated every generation.

Man can mix chemicals and manipulate them with EM. We do it all the time with electricity. We can make matter dance and sing to our tunes, and even send it off into its own little world for a while making its own music.

The same components that make us.

What makes you think it wasn't done to us? You just want to believe it couldn't be?
It's creators all the way down, Dave.
Imhotep

United States

#151492 Feb 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Does your sorry ass think this is a "social arena" and we're being "social"?!
I refuse to argue with idiots, they reduce me to their level then beat me with experience. ;)

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#151494 Feb 3, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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It's creators all the way down, Dave.
Yet you deny we have one?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#151495 Feb 3, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
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I refuse to argue with idiots, they reduce me to their level then beat me with experience. ;)
Regardless, you really should spend more time trying to get in touch with your true self. From there it would be nothing but upwards for you.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#151496 Feb 3, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Yet you deny we have one?
Creationist piece of sh*t with no proof of god questioning intelligent people who have already shown him to be a liar.

Go back to the discovery institute / new life church / westbro baptist. What ever cult sewer you rat came out of...

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#151497 Feb 3, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Regardless, you really should spend more time trying to get in touch with your true self. From there it would be nothing but upwards for you.
There's no such thing as god, get it through your thick brainwashed skull.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#151498 Feb 3, 2013
Hey tell us again how historians aren't scholars! That's a hoot!

Come on we all laugh at you anyways might as well dance for us!
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Does your sorry ass think this is a "social arena" and we're being "social"?!

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#151499 Feb 3, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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It's the exact same thing.
There is a claim that is absurd/impossible. The claim is rejected for being absurd/impossible. The claimant says "It's not absurd/impossible for a superhuman/god."
<quoted text>
I'm not closed-minded. I'm skeptical. You're gullible.
No it is not the same thing. God is not human and doesn't possess any human powers or human abilities, only humans possesses human powers and human abilities, so therefore only a human can have superhuman powers.

Why the hell is that so hard to understand?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#151500 Feb 3, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Hey tell us again how historians aren't scholars! That's a hoot!
Come on we all laugh at you anyways might as well dance for us!
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It's pretty sad that you think pressing keys on a keyboard or tapping buttons on a device is being "social".

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#151501 Feb 3, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Yet you deny we have one?
There are an infinite number of creators.

If there is one, then there has to be an infinite number of them.

Or none.

I'll go with none.

You keep looking for yours.

He might be in the next fart bubble.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#151502 Feb 3, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
There are an infinite number of creators.
If there is one, then there has to be an infinite number of them.
How have you come to this glorious assumption?
Imhotep

United States

#151503 Feb 3, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Regardless, you really should spend more time trying to get in touch with your true self. From there it would be nothing but upwards for you.
Why do you to have such a persistent sense of inadequacy?
Is your faith this crippling to your psyche?
You're tendency to self-diminishment is astounding... but we do agree on quality guitarists!

"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
-- Stephen Roberts

You know your god is man-made when he hates all the same people you do.
--[from Usenet]

You are probably a youngster Dave, so you may not know of HL Mencken.

"We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart."
-- H. L. Mencken

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