Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

[RiversideRedneck]

The_Box wrote:

...which contain scientifically impossible events.

LMAO!!!!!

You don't see the ignorance, do you?

[RiversideRedneck]

The_Box wrote:

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You are not accepting it; you are CLAIMING it.
You need to back up your claims with evidence.

No, I accept it.

And I don't need to offer you any evidence.

[RiversideRedneck]

KittenKoder wrote:

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Anger against those they don't like. Calling those they don't like "sinful" and saying that the god said it is. Pretty common in the US actually.

I did ask you who. You didn't answer.

I'm a Christian & an American and I don't fit either one of those allegations. And nobody I know dies either.

[Givemeliberty]

That's because You can't offer any evidence. You are free to live your life in the chains of superstition. The low IQ needs to be shackled like that.

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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No, I accept it.
And I don't need to offer you any evidence.

[The_Box]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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LMAO!!!!!
You don't see the ignorance, do you?

You don't see your intellectual inconsistency, do you?

If you were a juror, and the prosecutor said the guy could teleport, you'd call BS.

If you read a book that claimed a woman lived on Mars, you'd call BS.

If I told you my friend could shoot lasers out of his eyes, you'd call BS.

Yet you don't do the same for your religion.

[The_Box]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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No, I accept it.
And I don't need to offer you any evidence.

Then stop pretending that your belief is anything other than a delusion.

[KittenKoder]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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I did ask you who. You didn't answer.
I'm a Christian & an American and I don't fit either one of those allegations. And nobody I know dies either.

I said common, not every single person. You need to avoid projecting better, especially when dealing with someone like me. I do not assume things, and I do not assume that what one person does is what everyone of the same archetype would do, lest I would not enjoy reading some of what some posters on here post. Common means I have witnessed it a lot, much of it in the media and online, some in real life, but if I had made the assumption about you, I would not have even pointed this fact out to you in the first place because it would be "preaching to the choir," to coin a phrase.

[KittenKoder]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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No, I accept it.
And I don't need to offer you any evidence.

In that case, you should just state it's a belief and not fact. Saying something is fact without presenting evidence to support it is pretty much lying. Stating something is fact is the same as saying you have evidence you can present to back it up.

[RiversideRedneck]

The_Box wrote:

You don't see your intellectual inconsistency, do you?

Oh, like you "knowing" what is or is not scientifically possible?

naaaaw......

If you were a juror, and the prosecutor said the guy could teleport, you'd call BS.
If you read a book that claimed a woman lived on Mars, you'd call BS.
If I told you my friend could shoot lasers out of his eyes, you'd call BS.
Yet you don't do the same for your religion.

Derp.

Humans can't teleport, live on mars or shoot lasers out of their eyes.....

[RiversideRedneck]

The_Box wrote:

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Then stop pretending that your belief is anything other than a delusion.

You stop pretending that it IS a delusion....

It isn't.

You don't have to believe, you've already admitted that you failed at it, don't throw your emotional distress at me.

[The_Box]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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Oh, like you "knowing" what is or is not scientifically possible?

Yes, I know basic scientific facts. That's knowledge.

RiversideRedneck wrote:

Derp.
Humans can't teleport, live on mars or shoot lasers out of their eyes.....

But they're not humans - they're SUPERhumans! Do you believe all the claims now that I've told you they're superhumans? Or still BS?

[The_Box]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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You stop pretending that it IS a delusion....

It is.

DELUSION:
A delusion is a belief held with strong conviction despite superior evidence to the contrary.

[RiversideRedneck]

KittenKoder wrote:

I said common, not every single person.

Here we go. Bullshit. You said "theists" & you said it was common in the US, you didn't say WHO it was common for.

Remember?
"Funny how theists project their emotional states onto their god, no?"

You need to avoid projecting better, especially when dealing with someone like me.

Someone that trips on their own words?

I do not assume things, and I do not assume that what one person does is what everyone of the same archetype would do, lest I would not enjoy reading some of what some posters on here post. Common means I have witnessed it a lot, much of it in the media and online, some in real life, but if I had made the assumption about you, I would not have even pointed this fact out to you in the first place because it would be "preaching to the choir," to coin a phrase.

Then I ask again......

Who and in what way?

[RiversideRedneck]

KittenKoder wrote:

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In that case, you should just state it's a belief and not fact. Saying something is fact without presenting evidence to support it is pretty much lying. Stating something is fact is the same as saying you have evidence you can present to back it up.

I believe in God.

I know God is real, I've felt His hand & heard His voice.

I can't provide evidence of that anymore than you could provide evidence of the feeling in your palm when you shake someone's hand.

[Clementia]

Givemeliberty wrote:

Ask the people getting blown up in Israel or crying outside the wailing wall if they think they are free.
Speaking of freedom, keep the girls free!:)
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I know, u fish finger!

But are the Jews evil coz of religion? I don't think they wanna force their religion on the world or anything like that, i just think they doing evil coz...coz....i have no idea!

[RiversideRedneck]

The_Box wrote:

Yes, I know basic scientific facts. That's knowledge.

Basic scientific facts will not give you knowledge about evidence of God. Neither will complex scientific facts.

But they're not humans - they're SUPERhumans! Do you believe all the claims now that I've told you they're superhumans? Or still BS?

BS. Superhumans don't exist.

(Jesus was never a superhuman, so I'm wondering what your point is.)

[RiversideRedneck]

The_Box wrote:

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It is.
DELUSION:
A delusion is a belief held with strong conviction despite superior evidence to the contrary.

You have no evidence that God doesn't exist or that Jesus did not perform miracles.

Next

[KittenKoder]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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Here we go. Bullshit. You said "theists" & you said it was common in the US, you didn't say WHO it was common for.
Remember?
"Funny how theists project their emotional states onto their god, no?"
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Someone that trips on their own words?
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Then I ask again......
Who and in what way?

Oh, you mean "towards who" ... well, take your pick. Muslims, atheists, gay people, black people (historically), pagans .... eventually everyone becomes a target.

[KittenKoder]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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Basic scientific facts will not give you knowledge about evidence of God. Neither will complex scientific facts.
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BS. Superhumans don't exist.
(Jesus was never a superhuman, so I'm wondering what your point is.)

So then your Jesus didn't perform any miracles? Because performing miracles is "super" human.

[The_Box]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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Basic scientific facts will not give you knowledge about evidence of God. Neither will complex scientific facts.

Scientific facts give us reason to accept or reject claims.

RiversideRedneck wrote:

BS. Superhumans don't exist.
(Jesus was never a superhuman, so I'm wondering what your point is.)

What distinguishes Jesus from my superhumans? They're the SAME THING.

I could just as easily have said that my laser-beams guy was a god.