Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Since: Dec 10

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#151404 Feb 2, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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I did it on a gas stove with some hard boiled eggs I forgot about once.
Damn things just disappeared along with all the water.
Then I looked up...
You terrorist , maNufacturing egg bombs.
DHS is looking for you ..lol

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#151405 Feb 2, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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What "atheist meetings?" You mean coffee with friends? Or beers at the local pub with friends? Or family picnics? I mean, are those exclusive to atheists? Are we the only ones who spend time with family and friends?
Don't lie. You know you don't have any friends....

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#151406 Feb 2, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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I did the same thing, but with a can, unopened, of condensed milk. The water boiled down, and all of a sudden I heard a huge explosion. It was lucky I wasn't in the kitchen because the can blew up and there was goop all over the ceiling, walls.
If it hadn't exploded it would have been a milk dud.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#151407 Feb 2, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Atheist meetings are at my house.
Third Wednesday of every month.
7:00pm
Bring beer.
That would be interesting.

I'll bring Bud & a gun.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#151408 Feb 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ya well, the Nicene Creed also knew that God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit were three beings in one Holy Trinity.
So what's the difference between just saying someone is a god and someone is a superhuman?

It's the same thing. You're adding a claim on top of a claim. It doesn't actually SUPPORT the initial claim.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#151409 Feb 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Don't lie. You know you don't have any friends....
Not that live close to me. ;)

But I do have friends, they're all in other countries or on the east coast, but meh.
Imhotep

Brandon, FL

#151410 Feb 2, 2013
INTERPRETATION

A minister decided that a visual demonstration would add emphasis to his Sunday sermon.
Four worms were placed into four separate jars.
The first worm was put into a container of alcohol.
The second worm was put into a container of cigarette smoke.
The third worm was put into a container of chocolate syrup.
The fourth worm was put into a container of good clean soil.
At the conclusion of the sermon, the minister reported the following results:
The first worm in alcohol- Dead
The second worm in cigarette smoke - Dead
Third worm in chocolate syrup - Dead
Fourth worm in good clean soil - Alive.

So the minister asked the congregation,

'What did you learn from this demonstration???'

Maxine was sitting in the back, quickly raised her hand and said,

'As long as you drink, smoke and eat chocolate, you won't have worms!'

That pretty much ended the service.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#151411 Feb 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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That would be interesting.
I'll bring Bud & a gun.
Cool! Then we can claim self-defense!

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#151412 Feb 2, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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What "atheist meetings?" You mean coffee with friends? Or beers at the local pub with friends? Or family picnics? I mean, are those exclusive to atheists? Are we the only ones who spend time with family and friends?
No darling we are not talking about family and friends.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#151413 Feb 2, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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No darling we are not talking about family and friends.
Then what meetings are you referring to?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#151414 Feb 2, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
[Tipping hat] Thank you. Are you practicing medicine now or are you retired.
You're welcome. Three and a half years retired.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#151415 Feb 2, 2013
Oh wait, you don't mean these meetings:


Ack, how did you learn about those?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#151416 Feb 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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ALl those dummies in Canada...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Canada
Did you think that this shows a growth of Christianity in Canada? It doesn't. It shows that the population of Canada is becoming increasingly non-Christian just as it is in America.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#151417 Feb 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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That would be interesting.
I'll bring Bud & a gun.
That a threat?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#151418 Feb 2, 2013
BBSting wrote:
when facing feelings of helplessness, people always gravitate towards messages of hope, which religion offers.
Your religion creates that feeling of helplessness and dependency. It teaches that man is defective and useless without a god. It teaches that life is meaningless and purposeless without this god in direct contradiction to the testimony of irreligious people everywhere.

Christianity is infantilizing. It fosters it with a culture of immaturity and stunted development, one that fosters obedience and submission over autonomy and self actualization. If fosters dependence, vulnerability, inferiority, helplessness, and fear - all childlike states.

Your love of god is childish and self-serving like a child's love - done for your own benefit, and not for the benefit of the object of your love. That is not mature, adult love.

Don't take if from me. Take it from one of your own:

"The church doesn't like for people to grow up, because you can't control grown-ups. That's why we talk about being born again. When you're 'born again' you're still a child. People don't need to be born again, they need to grow up." - Bishop John Shelby Spong

And the reason for that is this:

"Religion is always in the control business and that's something people don't really understand. It's in the guilt-producing, control business.... and so they create this fiery place which has quite literally scared the hell out of a lot of people throughout christian history. And it's part of a control tactic" - Bishop John Shelby Spong

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#151419 Feb 2, 2013
BBSting wrote:
If death takes the people you love suddenly, it is reassuring to know that they continue to exist and are at peace.
There is no reason why you should need to face reality if it frightens you:

BENEFITS OF BEING A CHRISTIAN

[1] Perhaps you are terrified of dying. If so, consider Christianity. There's no need to face the likelihood that death is the end if it troubles you. Believe, and poof! All gone!

[2] Or perhaps you are afraid to walk down the street without a omniscient, omnipotent, magic protector watching over you 24/7. Consider Christianity.

[3] Or maybe you're lonely or feeling unloved, and just need to talk to somebody, but there's nobody there. Consider Christianity. You can mutter to the ceiling fan all day and believe that it's listening.

[4] Or maybe you're tired of being the universe's doormat, and you just need to feel special, as if the whole universe was made for you, and knows who you are and really, really, really cares. Consider Christianity.

[5] Christianity also offers you the ability to feel morally superior to nonbelievers by teaching that nonbeliever's lives have no meaning, purpose or moral basis. They will be flushed into a lake of fire for disagreeing with you. Thus, Christianity fulfills any revenge or snuff urges you might have.

[6] Or maybe you suffer from crushing guilt or shame. No need. Lay it at the cross. They have forgiveness on demand Ė just mutter to the ceiling fan and demand yours. Howís that for accountability?

[7] Or maybe you miss Aunt Esther terribly and you just can't adjust to the reality of her death. Consider Christianity. Oh look up in the clouds! There she is!

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#151420 Feb 2, 2013
BBSting wrote:
What can atheism offer the bereaved but empty consolations? "Sorry folks, that's all there is. Eat, drink and be merry because tomorrow you may be next."
BENEFITS OF LIVING WITHOUT RELIGION

[1] Hope for man and the world. When I was a Christian, I thought we were all goners. It was always the end times, and we were all praying for Jesus to come again and destroy the earth. But now, I know that it is possible that man can go on until he evolves into something better, and then again.

[2] Freedom from fear of damnation. Freedom from fear of hell. Freedom from fear of Satan. Freedom from fear of demons and devils. Freedom from fear of my own thoughts.

[3] Freedom from the infantilizing nanny god, a very prudish, judgmental, authoritarian, smiting, and panty-sniffing god.

[4] When a cute little doe-eyed girl dies of leukemia sometime later today (and one will somewhere), you'll have the comfort of knowing that it was just rotten luck, and not something caused by or allowed to happen by any ghost.

[5] Respect for life, earth and the universe. Christianity teaches that animals are soulless meat bags to be exploited as man sees fit. Then it teaches that the whole material world including earth is made of a base substance - matter - which is only transitory. Christianity demeans the material world enough to make the word "worldly" an insult.

[6] Freedom from an inferior intellectual system that despises science and erudition, and robs the victim of the sense of the sense of mystery, grandeur, awe and connection that a scientific education entails. "We are stardust. We are golden. We are billion year old carbon."

[7] Freedom from an inferior ethic that defines love in terms of torture and crucifixion, and a pardon from eternal torment by an infinitely evil devil. The moral structure is deformed: Faith, obedience, worship and piety are not virtues. Integrity, autonomy, responsibility, courage and compassion are.

[8] Respect for mankind. Christianity teaches that man is unworthy, inherently flawed, retched, unworthy, and lucky as hell to be tolerated by the god. Christianity demeans man enough to make the phrase "the flesh" an insult. You can cast that gloom away.

[9] Relief from thousands of hours pointlessly wasted in churches, praying, and reading the bible. I also got to keep the 10% of my income that I was giving to the priests and their children instead of my own, which I calculated was about five to eight years income - the approximate amount I retired with.
Imhotep

Brandon, FL

#151422 Feb 2, 2013
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“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#151423 Feb 2, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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BENEFITS OF LIVING WITHOUT RELIGION
[1] Hope for man and the world. When I was a Christian, I thought we were all goners. It was always the end times, and we were all praying for Jesus to come again and destroy the earth. But now, I know that it is possible that man can go on until he evolves into something better, and then again.
[2] Freedom from fear of damnation. Freedom from fear of hell. Freedom from fear of Satan. Freedom from fear of demons and devils. Freedom from fear of my own thoughts.
[3] Freedom from the infantilizing nanny god, a very prudish, judgmental, authoritarian, smiting, and panty-sniffing god.
[4] When a cute little doe-eyed girl dies of leukemia sometime later today (and one will somewhere), you'll have the comfort of knowing that it was just rotten luck, and not something caused by or allowed to happen by any ghost.
[5] Respect for life, earth and the universe. Christianity teaches that animals are soulless meat bags to be exploited as man sees fit. Then it teaches that the whole material world including earth is made of a base substance - matter - which is only transitory. Christianity demeans the material world enough to make the word "worldly" an insult.
[6] Freedom from an inferior intellectual system that despises science and erudition, and robs the victim of the sense of the sense of mystery, grandeur, awe and connection that a scientific education entails. "We are stardust. We are golden. We are billion year old carbon."
[7] Freedom from an inferior ethic that defines love in terms of torture and crucifixion, and a pardon from eternal torment by an infinitely evil devil. The moral structure is deformed: Faith, obedience, worship and piety are not virtues. Integrity, autonomy, responsibility, courage and compassion are.
[8] Respect for mankind. Christianity teaches that man is unworthy, inherently flawed, retched, unworthy, and lucky as hell to be tolerated by the god. Christianity demeans man enough to make the phrase "the flesh" an insult. You can cast that gloom away.
[9] Relief from thousands of hours pointlessly wasted in churches, praying, and reading the bible. I also got to keep the 10% of my income that I was giving to the priests and their children instead of my own, which I calculated was about five to eight years income - the approximate amount I retired with.
Nice sales job but the goods your selling is tainted.
My observations tell me that Atheism brings to a large portion bitterness, anger, mood swings, hostilities, sadness, spitefulness, oppression, depression, belligerency, atrociousness, close mindedness, hatefulness, twisting of facts, mendacious, bigotry and unhappiness to name a few.

There seems to be this raging inferno that burns so hot in some Atheist that the only peace they get on earth is to condemn people of faith. Where is all this freedom your talking about? They donít seem to have any peace. Why be so miserable? But Iím telling by reading these threads thatís whatís being displayed.

Who in the hell wants to live like some of you Atheist? You are freaking miserable. Like a horse with a broken leg. It would be different if Atheist were happy and peaceful people but we see something different.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#151424 Feb 2, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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Nice sales job but the goods your selling is tainted.
I won't condemn you, you person of faith you.

But it's you're (contraction), not your (possessive).

And goods are, not goods is.

I'm freaking miserable, having to read your almost illiterate posts.

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