Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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#151172 Jan 31, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Holy Jebus.....
Using your "logic", you could say:
Tomatoes ARE tacos.
How do you figure?

“Ditat Deus”

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#151173 Jan 31, 2013
The_Box wrote:
Like the claims of Christianity.
No, you said you only believe things that are evidenced. Like what?

And what claims of Christianity do you consider to be non-evidenced?
I specifically stated "Jesus' miracles and divinity and resurrection".
No amount if current science can explain Jesus' miracles.

Do you think that means they're false?

“Ditat Deus”

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#151174 Jan 31, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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Do you accept the claims or not?
That you knew a guy that was 30 foot tall & shot lasers out of his eyes?

No

“Ditat Deus”

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#151175 Jan 31, 2013
The_Box wrote:
Where is it growing? Uneducated 3rd world nations? Congratulations. It's dying in the 1st world.
Deflection.

Christianity IS growing in population.

“Ditat Deus”

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#151176 Jan 31, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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Finally, he get's it! All 3 religions are the same!!!!!!! You all one big happy family, well maybe not happy!
They are not the same. No more than a Texan is the same as a New Yorker.
And stop making things up about Buddha, just coz u got nothing on him, u start making it up, u silly prune!
I've made up nothing about Buddha. And I know plenty about him.

“Ditat Deus”

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#151177 Jan 31, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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How do you figure?
Because tacos are tomatoes the same way you said scholars are historians.

They're both food that gets injested and shit out.

They must be the same.......

“Input”

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#151178 Jan 31, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
If it makes you feel better have at it. My photo albums and friend lists on Facebook have a lot of great memories.
:)
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Sorry you are just at times ...mean and hateful ,and devoid of reason. Other than that you're ok.

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#151179 Jan 31, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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No, you said you only believe things that are evidenced. Like what?
Like, Abraham Lincoln being President. Or the 49ers winning the NFC Championship this year.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
And what claims of Christianity do you consider to be non-evidenced?
Any of the implausible or impossible events like resurrection.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
No amount if current science can explain Jesus' miracles.
Do you think that means they're false?
They need not explain them because there's no evidence they occurred to begin with.

They range from implausible to impossible.

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#151180 Jan 31, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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That you knew a guy that was 30 foot tall & shot lasers out of his eyes?
No
Why not?

“Input”

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#151181 Jan 31, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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But we *have* found evidence. We know the life is a chemical process. We know that the precursors of the chemicals of life existed on the early earth. We know that those precursors spontaneously form more complicated structures in the environment of the early earth. We know that those structures can catalyze many of the reactions of life. We know that they will spontaneously form into cell-like structures which will bud and grow.
In the other direction, we are learning the absolute essentials for living things by our study of bacteria. We are able to decipher that RNA and not DNA was the original genetic material. We know that that RNA can form not only the genetic material, but also catalyze reactions needed for life.
The point is that the gap between what we know spontaneously forms in conditions similar to the early earth and what we know the earliest life was like has shrunk dramatically over the last 50 years. And yes, that *is* progress on the question. And yes, the above *is* evidence of abiogenesis.
I think it a lost cause to try to get the brainwashed theist to see processes.
I'm sure they cannot truly understand any complicated process , it is just beyond the scope of their understanding.
But we still try to make people see that a simple thing can in fact be a algorithm of complex computations , not easily understood by conventional terms , much less by the simpleton.

But we know there is a process that created the living, and it will be understood fully before long.

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#151182 Jan 31, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Deflection.
Christianity IS growing in population.
Your post was made in response to a post about it hanging on in the 3rd world.

And it is. It certainly isn't in the 1st.

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#151183 Jan 31, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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LMAO!
scholar
Noun
A specialist in a particular branch of study, esp. the humanities; a distinguished academic: "a Hebrew scholar".
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historian
Noun
An expert in or student of history, esp. that of a particular period, region, or social phenomenon.
umm......
I'd like to think you can't be this stupid...but there it is in black and white.

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#151184 Jan 31, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Because tacos are tomatoes the same way you said scholars are historians.
They're both food that gets injested and shit out.
They must be the same.......
That doesn't make any sense.

Scholar: A specialist in a particular branch of study

A historian IS a specialist in a particular branch of study (history). Thus, a historian is a scholar.

What's so hard to understand here?

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#151185 Jan 31, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Holy Jebus.....
Using your "logic", you could say:
Tomatoes ARE tacos.
I was wrong...you're even more stupid than I imagined.

“In the beginning God Created..”

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#151186 Jan 31, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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There is, but it's not done with lawsuits. It's done by state medical boards, which investigate complaints about doctors, and which have the power to discipline and revoke medical licenses.
Yes, each State has their own medical board but I think that method needs a complete revamping. Doctors have not done a very good job of policing their ranks. Perhaps some States may have been more aggressive against incompetent Doctors.

Everyone makes mistakes including good Doctors. I think honest mistakes by competent Doctors need to be forgiven. But some Doctors need to be doing something else for a living.

State Medical Boards need to have more of a mix of participants. Why aren’t there nurses on these medical boards? Nurses have the inside track on what goes on in the medical field and they should be participating in these medical board decisions.

I also think Doctors who are continuous assh*les to subordinates should be reported the Medical Boards. This is another reason to have nurses on Medical Boards. Some Doctors are professional and respectful. Others are just raging as*holes.

Anyway I would be interested in your thoughts on this subject.
Imhotep

Kissimmee, FL

#151187 Jan 31, 2013
Religion is Fraud wrote:
Since memory and awareness cease upon death, it proves all flavors of death denying domgas are nothing but lies for cowards.
“Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.”
~Seneca, Roman philosopher, mid-1st century AD

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

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#151188 Jan 31, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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So are Christian claims, Mormon claims, Hindu claims, Buddhist claims, Scientologist claims, etc.
They're all claims. Nothing more. You have no good evidence that Jesus performed any of those miracles.
You are delusional.
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Homer did exist. It is name assigned to the person who wrote the Iliad and Odyssey. There are questions about when those writings took place and how much responsibility he had in their writings, but really that's all moot.
The point was that Zeus, like Jesus, was written about.
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The Gospels were written by anonymous authors half a century after the events in question and 3/4 are not even independent.
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Maybe when you manage to make a single good argument.
I understand where you are coming from but I have seen real miracles and more than one. They don’t happen every day but over a lifetime they accumulate.

Observing real miracles is a subject I can’t go into detail because unbelievers such as atheist will not believe. It’s incomprehensible for them to understand. There’s a lot of people who have witnessed real miracles.

Atheist will never see these miracles. One time Jesus made the unbelievers leave the room before he performed a miracle. One thing I can tell you there is no drug that can give you the high as being an observer of a miracle. It’s an exhilarating experience.
Imhotep

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#151189 Jan 31, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Deflection.
Christianity IS growing in population.
Nope!

http://www.pewresearch.org/daily-number/relig...

http://www.gallup.com/poll/145409/Near-Record...

With over 1200 Christian organizations, the USA has a greater number of Jesus fan clubs than any other country in the world. The proliferation of variegated brands of Christianity in America is so extreme that it acquires a comic dimension. One might discern only a subtle difference in name between, say, the "Evangelical Congregational Church" and the "Evangelical Covenant Church", or the "Church of God in Christ" and "Church of Christ" but miss a gulf of doctrinal distinction.

But then, who is bothered about doctrine anyway? Denominations, a source of so much anguish and bloodshed in the past, have diminishing importance in the era of evangelical psychosis, mega-churches and apocalyptic blockbusters. The important thing is to "have religion". "With religion" you are a patriot, defending the American way of life; without religion you are a subversive radical, an enemy.

Christianity USA is all show business and emotional razzmatazz. Organised as international corporations, with a globalised "mission" of subsidiary offices, its product is propaganda, pouring in prodigious quantity from a network of TV and radio stations and publishing houses. The intent is to draw further millions into the mass of devotees.

In choreographed extravaganzas Pastor whips up mindless love of Jesus and serious fund raising, and then retreats to his opulent sanctuary, content in knowing that he is a tireless servant of the Lord.

"So what did God do? He GAVE the very thing He needed – His only begotten Son, the best gift heaven could give! What did God receive? Yes, we know – billions of sons and daughters! God lives by His own law – you GIVE if you expect to RECEIVE!"

– Paul Crouch of the Trinity Broadcasting Network espouses the "theology" of fleecing the sheep on behalf of a needy God.

http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/

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Long Beach, CA

#151190 Jan 31, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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I understand where you are coming from but I have seen real miracles and more than one.
I just saw a miracle too.

You managed to write in complete sentences.

Praise the lord.

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#151191 Jan 31, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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I understand where you are coming from but I have seen real miracles and more than one. They don’t happen every day but over a lifetime they accumulate.
Observing real miracles is a subject I can’t go into detail because unbelievers such as atheist will not believe. It’s incomprehensible for them to understand. There’s a lot of people who have witnessed real miracles.
There's nothing incomprehensible about it. If these miracles are so regular, it should be easy to document them, yet no one ever does. Why?

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