Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Jan 28, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ok. Point me to that "prove there's a Zeus" thread.....

Zeus is a god , it applies to him too.
It doesn't say prove there's a Jesus or YWHW .
Those are just your flavors.

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Eagle12 wrote:
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When the eagle flaps his/hers wings he is going somewhere in a hurry.
A human flapping his/hers arms is going nowhere fast.
I guess we would resemble that remark.
Notice I did say we.

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Ok. Point me to that "prove there's a Zeus" thread.....
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...

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Atheism is the unascertained belief that all life started from nihility. Non-comprehension of such beginnings is not indispensable. The assurance based on positive premonition that such beginnings did not happen by divine plan and design.
Such declarations not based on substantiation but ones own assertion that the self creation through happenstance is lucid. By which many Atheist do declare as not as faith but as fact. Even though they lack substantiation to their belief.
OMG, Eagle.

Nihility?

And what the f*ck are you saying?

By the way, you do know that Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens) was an atheist, don't you? One of his quotes: "A man is accepted into a church for what he believes and he is turned out for what he knows."

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yes, but why?
Because the best way to fight superstition is to challenge it.
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I don't believe that Zeus is real, neither do the atheists. Otherwise they'd be on some kind of "prove there's a Zeus" thread & knocking people down all day everyday for believing in Zeus.
But they don't. The atheists focus their attention right at God. Right at Christians.
It's not hard to see the difference here. Zeus-worship has no influence on our society whatsoever, while Christianity has a ton.

Those of us who believe its influence is negative are going to oppose it. Why would I spend any time opposing Zeus-worship when it's irrelevant?

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Jan 28, 2013
 
Eagle12 wrote:
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Thank you,
You have now cleared that up in your own mind.
And in reality.

Reality is cool - you should try it.
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God gave man both reason and free will. How we interpret God's commandments is up to us. Man's constructs of God's moral precepts (Mosaic code) have been degrading and injurious as depicted in the Jewish Old Testament, but God is infinitely patient. He knows His "children" learn through their error.
Jesus was a great teacher of common sense. His message (the New Testament) was the morality of absolute love and service. Only the lack of egotism can engender a respect for the freedom and dignity of other beings therefore one must be in the world, but not of the world.
you dont know your jebus very well do ya?

In the last few years, Christians have pushed a political agenda for the concept of "family values." Nowhere does the Biblical Jesus ever mention the phrase "family values" nor does he even mention the word "family." On the contrary, it appears that the life style of Jesus contradicts the concept of modern Christian "family values." According to the Bible as well as Christian apologists, Jesus never raised a family, and never married or fathered children. Clearly, Jesus had no personal experience of a family. Furthermore, the words of Jesus expressed variance against family members:


For I am come to SET A MAN AT VARIANCE AGAINST HIS FATHER, AND THE DAUGHTER AGAINST HER MOTHER, AND THE DAUGHTER IN LAW AGAINST HER MOTHER IN LAW. And a MAN'S FOES SHALL BE THEY OF HIS OWN HOUSEHOLD.

-Matthew 10:35-36

Not only does the Bible claim that Jesus came to set man at variance against members of the family, but he demanded that anyone wishing to become a disciple must hate them:


If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

-Luke 14:26

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Jan 28, 2013
 
Eagle12 wrote:
Your arms are too short to box with God.
Johnny Cash.
A lot of Atheist are swinging their arms in anger and not hitting anything but air.
Eagle 12
Well, when air is all that is there, that's bound to happen...
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Jan 28, 2013
 
Eagle12 wrote:
To my Atheist friends and the not so friendly.
“Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.”
Mark Twain
And we know you will.
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FYI
Mark Twain was an ATHEIST ...LOLOLOL

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Jan 28, 2013
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Actually, the lack of belief is agnosticism. It is a passive thing. Atheism is a denial, which is not passive, but definitive.
If you get on here prosyletizing atheism, then you have a belief. Which is most definitive.
No, I have a lack of belief.

Don't believe in gods, or unicorns, or elves, or minotaurs....really, the list goes on and on....
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bohart wrote:
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Perpetual motion machines are a dead end? There's more evidence that a perpetual motion machine is possible than for puddles of goo to poof into life. At least an alleged perpetual motion machine will operate for a time before it stops. I don't know biochemistry?, and you do? Explain just how the puddle of goo comes to life, the world is waiting because the most brilliant minds on earth don't have a single viable clue.As you yourself said,...it isn't necessary to see abiogenesis,suspect it or find it. Thats not science by any measure,....thats faith.
Your belief system is showing
and your STUPIDITY is showing ,you must be xian

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis

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Just Think wrote:
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No, I have a lack of belief.
Don't believe in gods, or unicorns, or elves, or minotaurs....really, the list goes on and on....
Do you believe theists are wrong in their beliefs?

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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Do you believe theists are wrong in their beliefs?
In my view, theists are deluded.

That's what I think, using my reasoning power.

It's not a belief.

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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Actually, the lack of belief is agnosticism. It is a passive thing. Atheism is a denial, which is not passive, but definitive.
If you get on here prosyletizing atheism, then you have a belief. Which is most definitive.
Agnosticism is lack of knowledge.

Atheism is lack belief.

There is a difference.

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Jan 28, 2013
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Do you believe theists are wrong in their beliefs?
Yep

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christianity is EVIL wrote:
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FYI
Mark Twain was an ATHEIST ...LOLOLOL
I think he was more agnostic and anti religion from what I have read of him.

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Jan 28, 2013
 
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In my view, theists are deluded.
That's what I think, using my reasoning power.
It's not a belief.
Your view is a belief. Particularly since you claim to have reasoned such.

Not that your reasoning power is of any significance.

That was a very pitiful weasel attempt you tried. Not a belief. A fact.

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Jan 28, 2013
 
madscot wrote:
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Agnosticism is lack of knowledge.
Atheism is lack belief.
There is a difference.
"efinition of AGNOSTIC
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: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god
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: a person who is unwilling to commit to an opinion about something <political agnostics> "

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/agn...

That does not support your assertion.

What else are you wrong about?

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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Your view is a belief. Particularly since you claim to have reasoned such.
Not that your reasoning power is of any significance.
That was a very pitiful weasel attempt you tried. Not a belief. A fact.
You'll have to be much sharper to trap Catcher.

But keep trying.

I do believe, by the way. Right now, I believe I'm going to have a glass of wine. A Provence rose.

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Jan 28, 2013
 
Thinking wrote:
The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, anyone?
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Is that the one that states that perpetual motions stop?

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