Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#150716 Jan 28, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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No, I have a lack of belief.
Don't believe in gods, or unicorns, or elves, or minotaurs....really, the list goes on and on....
Do you believe theists are wrong in their beliefs?

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#150717 Jan 28, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Do you believe theists are wrong in their beliefs?
In my view, theists are deluded.

That's what I think, using my reasoning power.

It's not a belief.

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#150718 Jan 28, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Actually, the lack of belief is agnosticism. It is a passive thing. Atheism is a denial, which is not passive, but definitive.
If you get on here prosyletizing atheism, then you have a belief. Which is most definitive.
Agnosticism is lack of knowledge.

Atheism is lack belief.

There is a difference.

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#150719 Jan 28, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Do you believe theists are wrong in their beliefs?
Yep

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#150720 Jan 28, 2013
christianity is EVIL wrote:
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FYI
Mark Twain was an ATHEIST ...LOLOLOL
I think he was more agnostic and anti religion from what I have read of him.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#150721 Jan 28, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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In my view, theists are deluded.
That's what I think, using my reasoning power.
It's not a belief.
Your view is a belief. Particularly since you claim to have reasoned such.

Not that your reasoning power is of any significance.

That was a very pitiful weasel attempt you tried. Not a belief. A fact.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#150722 Jan 28, 2013
madscot wrote:
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Agnosticism is lack of knowledge.
Atheism is lack belief.
There is a difference.
"efinition of AGNOSTIC
1
: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god
2
: a person who is unwilling to commit to an opinion about something <political agnostics> "

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/agn...

That does not support your assertion.

What else are you wrong about?

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#150723 Jan 28, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Your view is a belief. Particularly since you claim to have reasoned such.
Not that your reasoning power is of any significance.
That was a very pitiful weasel attempt you tried. Not a belief. A fact.
You'll have to be much sharper to trap Catcher.

But keep trying.

I do believe, by the way. Right now, I believe I'm going to have a glass of wine. A Provence rose.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#150724 Jan 28, 2013
Thinking wrote:
The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, anyone?
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Is that the one that states that perpetual motions stop?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#150725 Jan 28, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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You'll have to be much sharper to trap Catcher.
But keep trying.
I do believe, by the way. Right now, I believe I'm going to have a glass of wine. A Provence rose.
Sharpness is not required. A very absorbent paper towel would do just fine. Then a good wipe with detergent.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#150726 Jan 28, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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Is that the one that states that perpetual motions stop?
It's the one that says for every virtual particle there must be a virtual anti-virtual particle.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#150727 Jan 28, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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Ordures, sweet pastry.
Aren't you sweet?

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#150728 Jan 28, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Sharpness is not required. A very absorbent paper towel would do just fine. Then a good wipe with detergent.
Fine then.

Keep wiping.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#150729 Jan 28, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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Aren't you sweet?
Ordures?

Eagle meant hors d'oeuvres.

His French is even worse than his English.

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#150730 Jan 28, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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"efinition of AGNOSTIC
1
: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god
2
: a person who is unwilling to commit to an opinion about something <political agnostics> "
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/agn...
That does not support your assertion.
What else are you wrong about?
Like I said, an agnostic deals with what can be known. An theist deals with belief.

Agnostic atheist : "I don't know if gods exist but I don't believe they do"

Agnostic theist : "I don't know if gods exist but I believe they do"

Agnostic : "I just don't know"

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#150731 Jan 28, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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It's the one that says for every virtual particle there must be a virtual anti-virtual particle.
Should I throw away my virtual bible then?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#150732 Jan 28, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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"efinition of AGNOSTIC
1
: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god
2
: a person who is unwilling to commit to an opinion about something <political agnostics> "
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/agn...
That does not support your assertion.
What else are you wrong about?
I often ponder why it's so important to the theists why agnostic must be redefined so it is incompatible with atheism. So why can there not be agnostic atheists?
bohart

Newport, TN

#150733 Jan 28, 2013
christianity is EVIL wrote:
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and your STUPIDITY is showing ,you must be xian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis
Hey the article states that the idea of spontanous life generation goes back to the greek philosophers, which is what it is ... a damn philosophy with no scientific evidence. I believe you have evolved though, you seem stuck on the evolutionary tree at Homo stupidicus.Probably the result of inbred Frenchmen and low I.Q. Indians , the very flower of Canada.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#150735 Jan 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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I often ponder why it's so important to the theists why agnostic must be redefined so it is incompatible with atheism. So why can there not be agnostic atheists?
Because atheism requires just as much belief and commitment as theism.

No middle ground.

Agnostics are not committed to either. They reserve judgment. Atheists already made their judgment.

But I will bet you won't understand that, and will keep on arguing about it.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#150736 Jan 28, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Because atheism requires just as much belief and commitment as theism.
No middle ground.
Agnostics are not committed to either. They reserve judgment. Atheists already made their judgment.
But I will bet you won't understand that, and will keep on arguing about it.
No, that's your own projection. Atheism is, by definition, a lack of belief. You can't change the rules mid-game. Anyone who lacks a belief in a god is an atheist, end of story. You have to justify your own beliefs by projecting your failure to comprehend the differences onto others.

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