Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story
Turkey

Oswego, NY

#150689 Jan 28, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Scientists wouldn't be spending so much effort trying to solve the problem of abiogenesis if existing evidence didn't point them in that direction.
By contrast, they aren't looking for perpetual motion machines, since the evidence suggests that that would be a dead end.
You really don't understand what evidence is,or how it can be used. It isn't necessary to see abiogenesis to suspect it or find it.
The mere fact that science has found so many naturalistic explanations for physical phenomena like lightning and eclipses is evidence that other phenomena will succumb to similar investigations using the same method.
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Then you don't know biochemistry. Those are the ABCs of living things and life.
hmm, thougt opioides were

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#150690 Jan 28, 2013
Atheism is the unascertained belief that all life started from nihility. Non-comprehension of such beginnings is not indispensable. The assurance based on positive premonition that such beginnings did not happen by divine plan and design.

Such declarations not based on substantiation but ones own assertion that the self creation through happenstance is lucid. By which many Atheist do declare as not as faith but as fact. Even though they lack substantiation to their belief.

Since: Apr 09

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#150691 Jan 28, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
Atheism is the unascertained belief that all life started from nihility. Non-comprehension of such beginnings is not indispensable. The assurance based on positive premonition that such beginnings did not happen by divine plan and design.
Such declarations not based on substantiation but ones own assertion that the self creation through happenstance is lucid. By which many Atheist do declare as not as faith but as fact. Even though they lack substantiation to their belief.
Um...no.

Atheism is a lack of a belief in a god.

Glad to help.

Since: Jul 12

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#150692 Jan 28, 2013
The_Box wrote:
You said people were 'seeking proof'. What they're doing is asking for evidence to support religious claims.
Yes, but why?

It's like the so-called atheists really need to have some kind of proof that God doesn't exist & that religion is evil.

If they truly didn't believe, they wouldn't waste their time asking for proof.

I believe in God. I believe He's real.

I don't believe that Zeus is real, neither do the atheists. Otherwise they'd be on some kind of "prove there's a Zeus" thread & knocking people down all day everyday for believing in Zeus.

But they don't. The atheists focus their attention right at God. Right at Christians.

I think it's because they doubt their own belief that there is no God.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#150693 Jan 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yes, but why?
It's like the so-called atheists really need to have some kind of proof that God doesn't exist & that religion is evil.
If they truly didn't believe, they wouldn't waste their time asking for proof.
I believe in God. I believe He's real.
I don't believe that Zeus is real, neither do the atheists. Otherwise they'd be on some kind of "prove there's a Zeus" thread & knocking people down all day everyday for believing in Zeus.
But they don't. The atheists focus their attention right at God. Right at Christians.
I think it's because they doubt their own belief that there is no God.

Zeus is a god too, you could prove he is real ...or not!

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#150694 Jan 28, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>
Um...no.
Atheism is a lack of a belief in a god.
Glad to help.
Thank you,

You have now cleared that up in your own mind. There’s lacking in the world scientific facts on how all life started from a once sterile environment. Atheist accept life self created and self started. Self building the complex DNA codes for every simple and complex life forms.

This blind conviction of a lifeless world exploding into many and varying life forms by self creation is incomprehensible. Yet these Atheist beliefs are based without scientific proof. When it comes to billions of people throughout time that believed and still believe in a higher divine power. Atheist require proof, visible scientific proof.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#150695 Jan 28, 2013
Your arms are too short to box with God.

Johnny Cash.

A lot of Atheist are swinging their arms in anger and not hitting anything but air.

Eagle 12

“Michin yeoja”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#150696 Jan 28, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
Atheism is the unascertained belief that all life started from nihility.
No, it's not.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#150697 Jan 28, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>
Um...no.
Atheism is a lack of a belief in a god.
Glad to help.
Actually, the lack of belief is agnosticism. It is a passive thing. Atheism is a denial, which is not passive, but definitive.

If you get on here prosyletizing atheism, then you have a belief. Which is most definitive.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#150698 Jan 28, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
Your arms are too short to box with God.
Johnny Cash.
A lot of Atheist are swinging their arms in anger and not hitting anything but air.
Eagle 12
Funny how a birdman would tell us this , flapping wings and lips. lol

Since: Jul 12

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#150700 Jan 28, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Zeus is a god too, you could prove he is real ...or not!
Ok. Point me to that "prove there's a Zeus" thread.....
Thinking

Saffron Walden, UK

#150701 Jan 28, 2013
The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, anyone?
bohart wrote:
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Perpetual motion machines are a dead end? There's more evidence that a perpetual motion machine is possible than for puddles of goo to poof into life. At least an alleged perpetual motion machine will operate for a time before it stops. I don't know biochemistry?, and you do? Explain just how the puddle of goo comes to life, the world is waiting because the most brilliant minds on earth don't have a single viable clue.As you yourself said,...it isn't necessary to see abiogenesis,suspect it or find it. Thats not science by any measure,....thats faith.
Your belief system is showing

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#150702 Jan 28, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Funny how a birdman would tell us this , flapping wings and lips. lol
When the eagle flaps his/hers wings he is going somewhere in a hurry.

A human flapping his/hers arms is going nowhere fast.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#150703 Jan 28, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
No, it's not.
Ordures, sweet pastry.

“Don't be so dichotomous.”

Since: Jan 11

Embrace the grey.

#150704 Jan 28, 2013
I think I'll put a scroll wheel on my irony meter.

Whooooooo!

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#150705 Jan 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ok. Point me to that "prove there's a Zeus" thread.....

Zeus is a god , it applies to him too.
It doesn't say prove there's a Jesus or YWHW .
Those are just your flavors.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#150706 Jan 28, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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When the eagle flaps his/hers wings he is going somewhere in a hurry.
A human flapping his/hers arms is going nowhere fast.
I guess we would resemble that remark.
Notice I did say we.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#150707 Jan 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ok. Point me to that "prove there's a Zeus" thread.....
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#150708 Jan 28, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
Atheism is the unascertained belief that all life started from nihility. Non-comprehension of such beginnings is not indispensable. The assurance based on positive premonition that such beginnings did not happen by divine plan and design.
Such declarations not based on substantiation but ones own assertion that the self creation through happenstance is lucid. By which many Atheist do declare as not as faith but as fact. Even though they lack substantiation to their belief.
OMG, Eagle.

Nihility?

And what the f*ck are you saying?

By the way, you do know that Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens) was an atheist, don't you? One of his quotes: "A man is accepted into a church for what he believes and he is turned out for what he knows."

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#150709 Jan 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yes, but why?
Because the best way to fight superstition is to challenge it.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
I don't believe that Zeus is real, neither do the atheists. Otherwise they'd be on some kind of "prove there's a Zeus" thread & knocking people down all day everyday for believing in Zeus.
But they don't. The atheists focus their attention right at God. Right at Christians.
It's not hard to see the difference here. Zeus-worship has no influence on our society whatsoever, while Christianity has a ton.

Those of us who believe its influence is negative are going to oppose it. Why would I spend any time opposing Zeus-worship when it's irrelevant?

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