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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#150766 Jan 29, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Theists like you love playing this little mind game Dave.
You know you it cant be proven one way or the other, so you come in here and try to shift the burden of proof to the person you accuse of not believing in your god. There are shades of disbelief just like there are shades of belief. But what you are saying is that a person has faith in a total lack of belief. Most atheists see it as a total lack of faith and zero belief.
Ergo: I have zero faith in the imaginary god of your belief.
What imaginary god would that be, Orrie?

You seem to be stuck on this anti-Jehovah kick, equating any belief in a supernatural with a belief in Bible God as you perceive it. Then your knees start jerking.

I was "your" definition of an atheist for over 50 years. I, too, was against the ritual and blind following of the words of men claiming to be shepherds. The religious ones and the progressive liberal secular humanist ones. I even had a death experience and didn't see a god.

But I have been a technician all of my life, and a very good one. Instead of focusing my skills on small parts of this existence, I started to looking at it as a system, with reliance on modern physics stating it is a closed system. I see the transfers of energy and interactions from a detached view. I, including my consciousness, is a part of the schematic I am watching unfold.

That is why I have been suggesting we are glorified light bulbs, so to speak, constructed devices, to accomplish the ends of something larger than us. What it is I don't know.

You and most people are stuck staring out. You don't know how to detach yourself from your function to realize what you really are. You are too busy processing the energy flowing through you.

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#150767 Jan 29, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Aren't you sweet?
Always, that’s why my wife throws her shoes at me, lol.

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#150768 Jan 29, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
What does that have to do with atheism? The Big Bang, abiogenesis, evolution and atheism are four different subjects. If you lack the IQ to comprehend that I suggest you start educating yourself so you don't always make a jackass out if yourself.
That's why we call him Daffy!
You're welcome half wit.
<quoted text>
Ordures my Dear.

“Ordures,” French for garbage.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#150769 Jan 29, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
What imaginary god would that be, Orrie?
You seem to be stuck on this anti-Jehovah kick, equating any belief in a supernatural with a belief in Bible God as you perceive it. Then your knees start jerking.
I was "your" definition of an atheist for over 50 years. I, too, was against the ritual and blind following of the words of men claiming to be shepherds. The religious ones and the progressive liberal secular humanist ones. I even had a death experience and didn't see a god.
But I have been a technician all of my life, and a very good one. Instead of focusing my skills on small parts of this existence, I started to looking at it as a system, with reliance on modern physics stating it is a closed system. I see the transfers of energy and interactions from a detached view. I, including my consciousness, is a part of the schematic I am watching unfold.
That is why I have been suggesting we are glorified light bulbs, so to speak, constructed devices, to accomplish the ends of something larger than us. What it is I don't know.
You and most people are stuck staring out. You don't know how to detach yourself from your function to realize what you really are. You are too busy processing the energy flowing through you.
So..um...are you saying you worship a Singer Sewing Machine or a Waring Blender?

O Ye of the running stitch, and drinker of the Margarita.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#150770 Jan 29, 2013
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>
So..um...are you saying you worship a Singer Sewing Machine or a Waring Blender?
O Ye of the running stitch, and drinker of the Margarita.
More like the operator of them, oh ye of limited understanding.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#150771 Jan 29, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
More like the operator of them, oh ye of limited understanding.
So, you're like the god of appliances.

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#150772 Jan 29, 2013
Mark Twain an Atheist?

Yes I know Atheist make that claim.

Research tells a much different story. He wasn’t fond of religion but did acknowledge he believed in God. He didn’t seem to be steadfast in his belief but moved back and forth on the issue at different times in his life.

He did attend church several times and helped his brother build a church. However there wasn’t a solid comment from him as would be in others.

That’s why I used his quote because it fit Atheist to a Tee. He was a very talented author and happened to be raised up about two hours from where I live.

It makes me no difference if you claim him or not.

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#150773 Jan 29, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
What does that have to do with atheism? The Big Bang, abiogenesis, evolution and atheism are four different subjects. If you lack the IQ to comprehend that I suggest you start educating yourself so you don't always make a jackass out if yourself.
That's why we call him Daffy!
You're welcome half wit.
<quoted text>
Your antagonistic views say Atheist like yourself are very toxic with rude and tasteless comments. I want people coming into the forum to see how pleasant some Atheist are. You fulfill that purpose and I have used your mannerisms to prove that point.[Tipping Hat]

Don’t change that would be bad for business.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#150774 Jan 29, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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So, you're like the god of appliances.
I am the Jesus of the junkpile. I am very good at resurrecting discarded items and bringing them back to life.

However, Topix atheists would likely be recycled as lamps. With the addition of sockets, shades, and cords. And brighter bulbs.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#150775 Jan 29, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
Mark Twain an Atheist?
Yes I know Atheist make that claim.
Research tells a much different story. He wasn’t fond of religion but did acknowledge he believed in God. He didn’t seem to be steadfast in his belief but moved back and forth on the issue at different times in his life.
He did attend church several times and helped his brother build a church. However there wasn’t a solid comment from him as would be in others.
That’s why I used his quote because it fit Atheist to a Tee. He was a very talented author and happened to be raised up about two hours from where I live.
It makes me no difference if you claim him or not.
When one reads Bibles, one is less surprised at what the Deity knows than at what He doesn't know.
- Mark Twain's Notebook

No one says he's an atheist, unless they don't know that he was a deist.

It ain't those parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand.
Mark Twain
Thinking

Ashford, UK

#150777 Jan 29, 2013
Yes. It's the one that states why walls can collapse into rubble (rubble = almost infinite arrangements) but that the opposite is almost impossible (rubble into order = 1 or comparatively few arrangements).

This law also introduces us to entropy (the number of ways things can tend to disorder).
River Tam wrote:
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Is that the one that states that perpetual motions stop?

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#150778 Jan 29, 2013
He prefers you be on your knees with your mouth eagerly open for communion. If you are an attractive female age 18+ if this does not describe you fear not! Kindly send your most attractive female family member aged 18+ to worship and you may watch the service.

You're welcome.
G_O_D wrote:
Whatever you say, god of the pricks.
<quoted text>

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#150779 Jan 29, 2013
Which is all you have to post Daffy. Glad you finally caught on.

Now maybe you can find a Middle Eastern man? You seem to think they prove god exists for some reason.
Eagle12 wrote:
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Ordures my Dear.
“Ordures,” French for garbage.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#150780 Jan 29, 2013
So was the saw you cut your own fingers off with like the devil?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a!
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
More like the operator of them, oh ye of limited understanding.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#150781 Jan 29, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Yes. It's the one that states why walls can collapse into rubble (rubble = almost infinite arrangements) but that the opposite is almost impossible (rubble into order = 1 or comparatively few arrangements).
This law also introduces us to entropy (the number of ways things can tend to disorder).
<quoted text>
So order out of a sudden expansion is just about improbable?

The Big Bang rubbleized then fell back into an ordered universe, did it not?

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#150782 Jan 29, 2013
Kool Khara.

Btw my slow witted troll Atheism has nothing to do with the Big Bang, or abiogenesis, or evolution. Take some time to let it sink in Daffy but atheism is simply not believing in gods.

Seriously.
Eagle12 wrote:
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Your antagonistic views say Atheist like yourself are very toxic with rude and tasteless comments. I want people coming into the forum to see how pleasant some Atheist are. You fulfill that purpose and I have used your mannerisms to prove that point.[Tipping Hat]
Don’t change that would be bad for business.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#150783 Jan 29, 2013
Flowery speech without substance is like gift wrap on a dog turd.

You would be better served staying away from sharp objects Gramps and return to your magnets and strings.
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://www.experienceproject.c om/stories/Crave-Depth-Of-Soul -And-Intensity-Of-Experience/1 197749
Interesting site I just found looking up depth of soul. There are more stories.
Depth of soul is the ability to experience, put in perspective, and keeping on keeping on.
Any higher being will collect those with that depth, leaving the shallow in the mill.
You shine brightly, or you reflect well, and you are taken home.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#150784 Jan 29, 2013
A white light shines. White as in all colors and wavelengths of the EM spectrum.

Put a filter in front and you bias it so you see a predominate color. Alternatively, your physical construction only allows certain wavelengths to register. This varies to a degree within humans. You can only see what you can see.

The universe is light.

Topix atheists are living in the dark.
Thinking

Ashford, UK

#150785 Jan 29, 2013
No.
You're 100% wrong.
No order whatsoever is more improbable than some order.
You're the sort that required iPod shuffle to be merely pseudo random.
Dave Nelson wrote:
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So order out of a sudden expansion is just about improbable?

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#150786 Jan 29, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Yes. It's the one that states why walls can collapse into rubble (rubble = almost infinite arrangements) but that the opposite is almost impossible (rubble into order = 1 or comparatively few arrangements).
This law also introduces us to entropy (the number of ways things can tend to disorder).
<quoted text>
The problem is that the identification of entropy with disorder is wrong. There are many situations where entropy drives the formation of *more* order. For example, a mixture of oil and water would be disordered and the situation where they are separated would be more ordered, but entropy drives that separation.

It is more accurate to say that entropy is a measure of the amount of 'unusable' energy, although even this is not quite correct. There is a temperature dependence in entropy that is not considered in that intuition.

Finally, entropy is NOT the number of ways things can be disordered. The closest version is that entropy is related to the number of accessible quantum states.

This, by the way, is one reason that the initial stages of the Big bang were *low* entropy: the number of available quantum states was low at that point.

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