Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#150653 Jan 28, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
For people who can't maintain real companionship, an imaginary companion will suffice.
For people that can't get an inflatable woman or a real sheep:

http://www.muttonbone.com/ [Anatomically correct inflatable ewe.]

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#150654 Jan 28, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
"You stole ['Thou shalt not steal'] from the Jews."

No need showing off your stupidity any further. Jesus was a Rabbi the Christian faith was Jewish the split came years after Jesus. However the OT was always part of Christianity and the Jewish faiths. Nothing stolen.
The Jews say otherwise. And they reject your sham messiah and his heretical cult on biblical grounds.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#150655 Jan 28, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
"How does a god - or belief in a god - give a life more purpose than it wouldn't otherwise have? "

You really don't know? Or are you just playing dumb?
I do know: it doesn't. Your life has no more meaning, value or purpose because of faith. If anything, less. What use are you if you despise the world, it's affairs, and human flesh?

You're taught to feel like an alien in your own world:

• Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.- 1 John 2:15

• They are not of the world, even as I am not of it.- John 17:16

• Do not conform to the pattern of this world - Romans 12:2

Where's the purpose there?

You're also taught to be alienated to your family :

• If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters--yes, even his own life--he cannot be my disciple.- Luke 14:26

What's the value of that?

And finally, you are taught that you are an alien temporarily trapped in vile flesh:

• For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want.- Galatians 5:16-18

• For it is we who are the circumcision, we who serve God by his Spirit, who boast in Christ Jesus, and who put no confidence in the flesh.- Philippians 3:2-4

And what is this great purpose you imagine for yourself? To spend eternity slavishly kissing the ass of a selfish and needy tyrant? What is the value of such a life to anybody else but that god?

To diminish the meaning and purpose of your life further, you live it like you're sitting at a bus stop waiting to be whisked away, with your attention, gratitude, and loyalty deflected to a nonexistent place you'll never see populated by ghosts that never existed.

I reject your church's claim to superior wisdom, to moral superiority, to spirituality of any kind, and to superior existential qualities like meaning, value, and purpose.

From where I sit, humanism outshines you at all of those.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#150656 Jan 28, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
"How does a god - or belief in a god - give a life more purpose than it wouldn't otherwise have? "
You really don't know? Or are you just playing dumb?
You didn't answer the question...

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#150657 Jan 28, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you as always for sharing your insights. You have a gift for converting the profound and nuanced into the simplistic. Your mind digests complex thought the way a protease digests protein.
Maybe you just complicate things.

Mental confusion does that.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#150658 Jan 28, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Silly games the atheist play.
You've always played the same game - lying about god being real.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#150659 Jan 28, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe you just complicate things.
Mental confusion does that.
The only people confused here are the people that believe the earth is 6000 years old. That's you isn't it?

Its funny when you put your ridiculous beliefs into perspective for all to see isn't it?

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#150660 Jan 28, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
"How does a god - or belief in a god - give a life more purpose than it wouldn't otherwise have? "
You really don't know? Or are you just playing dumb?
So you don't know. The only people playing dumb are the people with no proof of god, yet trying to sell us something that they have no proof of - eg. a liar.

When will theists realise that atheists will never belief liars with no proof of god?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#150661 Jan 28, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
You've always played the same game - lying about god being real.
Is it a lie?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#150662 Jan 28, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
When will theists realise that atheists will never belief liars with no proof of god?
The fact that you seek proof of God means you are no atheist.

Why do you lie to yourself?

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#150663 Jan 28, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know. I'm not an architect, I'm a musician.

I play the violin. The acoustics were nice. You tell me.
Sorry about the way artist seem to always have to pay such high prices for there passion. Maybe if man wasn't taught they were apes and music was sent like a gift from God, you would not have work so hard to present your God given gift.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#150664 Jan 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
The fact that you seek proof of God means you are no atheist.
This makes no sense whatsoever.

I can shoot lasers from my eyes. Don't ask for evidence because that means you must believe me!

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#150665 Jan 28, 2013
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>I've never seen a concrete violin before.
LOL

I think he meant the bridge was made out if concrete :)

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#150666 Jan 28, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
The only people confused here are the people that believe the earth is 6000 years old. That's you isn't it?
Its funny when you put your ridiculous beliefs into perspective for all to see isn't it?
Amusing.

Ridiculous beliefs, eh?

You really believe I am a fundamentalist Christian after all of the stuff I have posted?

You need a laxative for your brain. It's kinda clogged up.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#150667 Jan 28, 2013
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-27/norw...

It's electrical. It all balances out in a while.

Does get the weaker minds all agitated, though.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#150668 Jan 28, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/ 2013-01-27/norway-data-shows-e arth-s-global-warming-less-sev ere-than-feared.html

It's electrical. It all balances out in a while.

Does get the weaker minds all agitated, though.
Yeah Dave.

It's electrical.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#150669 Jan 28, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/ 2013-01-27/norway-data-shows-e arth-s-global-warming-less-sev ere-than-feared.html
It's electrical. It all balances out in a while.
Does get the weaker minds all agitated, though.
If it bothers you why do you keep going to those sites?

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#150670 Jan 28, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Why did the OT need to be reformed?
God screwed it up the first time?
God gave man both reason and free will. How we interpret God's commandments is up to us. Man's constructs of God's moral precepts (Mosaic code) have been degrading and injurious as depicted in the Jewish Old Testament, but God is infinitely patient. He knows His "children" learn through their error.

Jesus was a great teacher of common sense. His message (the New Testament) was the morality of absolute love and service. Only the lack of egotism can engender a respect for the freedom and dignity of other beings therefore one must be in the world, but not of the world.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#150671 Jan 28, 2013
To my Atheist friends and the not so friendly.

“Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.”

Mark Twain

And we know you will.

Eagle 12

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#150672 Jan 28, 2013
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>
If it bothers you why do you keep going to those sites?
I don't. Those are just items that show up on news aggregators.

I post them to keep you "science experts" and worshipers up to date.

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