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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#150735 Jan 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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I often ponder why it's so important to the theists why agnostic must be redefined so it is incompatible with atheism. So why can there not be agnostic atheists?
Because atheism requires just as much belief and commitment as theism.

No middle ground.

Agnostics are not committed to either. They reserve judgment. Atheists already made their judgment.

But I will bet you won't understand that, and will keep on arguing about it.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#150736 Jan 28, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Because atheism requires just as much belief and commitment as theism.
No middle ground.
Agnostics are not committed to either. They reserve judgment. Atheists already made their judgment.
But I will bet you won't understand that, and will keep on arguing about it.
No, that's your own projection. Atheism is, by definition, a lack of belief. You can't change the rules mid-game. Anyone who lacks a belief in a god is an atheist, end of story. You have to justify your own beliefs by projecting your failure to comprehend the differences onto others.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#150737 Jan 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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No, that's your own projection. Atheism is, by definition, a lack of belief. You can't change the rules mid-game. Anyone who lacks a belief in a god is an atheist, end of story. You have to justify your own beliefs by projecting your failure to comprehend the differences onto others.
Your confusion about definitions is part of your pathology.

If you just lacked a belief you would not be on here telling theists how stupid they are.

You have faith in your conviction there are no deities. Or you have a different pathology relating to some need to be contrary.

Again, that will go totally over your head, or you are on here just to argue. I believe it WILL go over your head.

You Topix atheists are much too much emotional in your arguments to be rational thinkers.
bohart

White Pine, TN

#150739 Jan 28, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Your confusion about definitions is part of your pathology.
If you just lacked a belief you would not be on here telling theists how stupid they are.
You have faith in your conviction there are no deities. Or you have a different pathology relating to some need to be contrary.
Again, that will go totally over your head, or you are on here just to argue. I believe it WILL go over your head.
You Topix atheists are much too much emotional in your arguments to be rational thinkers.
Ouch! that was good.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#150740 Jan 28, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Your confusion about definitions is part of your pathology.
If you just lacked a belief you would not be on here telling theists how stupid they are.
You have faith in your conviction there are no deities. Or you have a different pathology relating to some need to be contrary.
Again, that will go totally over your head, or you are on here just to argue. I believe it WILL go over your head.
You Topix atheists are much too much emotional in your arguments to be rational thinkers.
If theists stopped being stupid, then no one would have reason to call them stupid. I have faith in things with solid evidence, your god has zero, none, so I dismiss your god like all the others, as mythology. I love evidence, evidence is what I study, without evidence there is nothing to accept or deny, it simply does not require any opinion either way.

“What?”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#150741 Jan 28, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Because atheism requires just as much belief and commitment as theism.
Atheism requires no belief. Are you Riverside Redneck in drag?

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#150744 Jan 28, 2013
River Tam wrote:
Should I throw away my virtual bible then?
Did it come with the little cardboard glasses so you can see all three dimensions of God? I think they were called Trinity Blinders or something.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#150745 Jan 28, 2013
RR isn't exactly known for his comprehension skills. He falls into the, god exists because I said so level of stupidity.
The_Box wrote:
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This makes no sense whatsoever.
I can shoot lasers from my eyes. Don't ask for evidence because that means you must believe me!

Since: Nov 12

New York, NY

#150746 Jan 28, 2013
madscot wrote:
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Like I said, an agnostic deals with what can be known. An theist deals with belief.
Agnostic atheist : "I don't know if gods exist but I don't believe they do"
Agnostic theist : "I don't know if gods exist but I believe they do"
Agnostic : "I just don't know"
Well said. Did you get to watch the video i posted for you?

“What?”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#150747 Jan 28, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Did it come with the little cardboard glasses so you can see all three dimensions of God? I think they were called Trinity Blinders or something.
My god can't be seen in RGB.

He's absolutely white.

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#150748 Jan 28, 2013
River Tam wrote:
My god can't be seen in RGB.
He's absolutely white.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =sGN3SBVIjjAXX
It occurs to me, that this world wouldn't survive an intelligent villain.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#150749 Jan 28, 2013
madscot wrote:
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Like I said, an agnostic deals with what can be known. An theist deals with belief.
Agnostic atheist : "I don't know if gods exist but I don't believe they do"
Agnostic theist : "I don't know if gods exist but I believe they do"
Agnostic : "I just don't know"
Then what was Spinoza ?

'God' is the natural forces of the Universe. Thus 'God' is known and observable.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#150750 Jan 28, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Your confusion about definitions is part of your pathology.
....
Don't blame the failings of human language on her.

The terms atheist and agnostic are ambiguous (at best) in common parlance.

Since: Mar 11

Cuyahoga Falls, OH

#150751 Jan 28, 2013
What does that have to do with atheism? The Big Bang, abiogenesis, evolution and atheism are four different subjects. If you lack the IQ to comprehend that I suggest you start educating yourself so you don't always make a jackass out if yourself.

That's why we call him Daffy!

You're welcome half wit.
Eagle12 wrote:
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Thank you,
You have now cleared that up in your own mind. There’s lacking in the world scientific facts on how all life started from a once sterile environment. Atheist accept life self created and self started. Self building the complex DNA codes for every simple and complex life forms.
This blind conviction of a lifeless world exploding into many and varying life forms by self creation is incomprehensible. Yet these Atheist beliefs are based without scientific proof. When it comes to billions of people throughout time that believed and still believe in a higher divine power. Atheist require proof, visible scientific proof.

Since: Mar 11

Cuyahoga Falls, OH

#150752 Jan 28, 2013
Agnosticism is lack of knowledge atheism is lack of belief. The two terms are not mutually exclusive. One can be an agnostic theist or an agnostic atheist. One could be a gnostic theist or a gnostic atheist.

How many times do we have to hold your hand and guide you retards through this?
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Actually, the lack of belief is agnosticism. It is a passive thing. Atheism is a denial, which is not passive, but definitive.
If you get on here prosyletizing atheism, then you have a belief. Which is most definitive.

“What?”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#150753 Jan 28, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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It occurs to me, that this world wouldn't survive an intelligent villain.
Atheism?

It's not just for breakfast anymore.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#150754 Jan 28, 2013
You find the theists love to mix and match an outright change definitions of words to their liking. They have no proof for their god and they know it. So because they have failed miserably to demonstrate said needed proof they rely on word games and lies to try to stay in the game.

Their time is ending. The writing is on the wall and they know it. Sadly they are now in full desperation mode clinging and flailing as churches close by the dozen :)
KittenKoder wrote:
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No, that's your own projection. Atheism is, by definition, a lack of belief. You can't change the rules mid-game. Anyone who lacks a belief in a god is an atheist, end of story. You have to justify your own beliefs by projecting your failure to comprehend the differences onto others.

Richardfs

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#150755 Jan 29, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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When the eagle flaps his/hers wings he is going somewhere in a hurry.
A human flapping his/hers arms is going nowhere fast.
Well that sums you up.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#150756 Jan 29, 2013
Who cares what Spinoza's opinion was? That isn't what he said anyways and he never said his God but god and it was actually a velvet gloved thumb to the eye of believers as he was a non Btw I can call my boner a god he will stand and even spit his miracle juice in your eye.

Care to say my hard on proves the existence of gods? Taking something real and assigning it the same god is a word game not proof for gods.
G_O_D wrote:
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Then what was Spinoza ?
'God' is the natural forces of the Universe. Thus 'God' is known and observable.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#150757 Jan 29, 2013
solopassage wrote:
God gave man both reason and free will.
Yet he demands that you suppress both. And curiosity. And lust. And cognitive dissonance.
solopassage wrote:
God is infinitely patient. He knows His "children" learn through their error.
Why do you suppose it is that your god always seems to choose to do exactly what a nonexistent god would do? Quetzalcoatl is also infinitely patient except for the odd tsunami or earthquake.

Like Quetzalcoatl, your god chooses not to show himself. He becomes inexplicably shy whenever scientific studies seeking to demonstrate the efficacy of prayer are performed.

And the days of parting seas and walking on water seem to have become the days of grilled cheese sandwich miracles.

Like Quetzalcoatl, Jehovah-Jesus lets us blaspheme him at will, a godlike display of self-control if ever there was one.

Jehovah has allowed his church to bicker and splinter into 40,000 factions, just like a nonexistent god would.

And of course, he is now also allowing his church to melt.

Why do you suppose that is?
solopassage wrote:
Jesus was a great teacher of common sense.
Here's some now:

[1]“If any one comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.”- Jesus (Luke 14:26)

[2] "And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out." - Mark 9:47

[3]“Take therefore no thought for tomorrow: for tomorrow shall take thought of the things for itself.”- Matthew 6:34

[4] "Some are born as eunuchs, some have been made eunuchs by others, and some choose not to marry for the sake of the Kingdom of Heaven. Let anyone accept this who can." - Matthew 19:12

[5] "They will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”- Mark 16:18

So, hate your parents and your own life, pluck out your eye, cut off your balls, pick up a snake, and don't plan.
solopassage wrote:
one must be in the world, but not of the world.
More bad advice. Such people are useless to the rest of us.

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