Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#150097 Jan 25, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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If you will recall, in previous statements you were insinuating that “humble her,” was rape which I very much disagreed.
You may disagree all you want. You can ignore all you want. You can lie all you want.

You ignored: Deu 21:11 And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;

Notice that the woman does not have a choice in the matter.

Deu 21:12 Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house; and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;

Does this sound like something a woman would do of her own free will?

Deu 21:14 And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou hast humbled her.

You said the "humbling her" was a good thing! In fact, you said something really stupid like, "I am very humbled by your praise." was the same as "He humbled her."

As I have said many times, you are either willfully stupid or a troll and I cannot help either.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#150098 Jan 25, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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New name, same old bullshit.
BBT VS goddidit
Mounds blind faith
of
evidence
You're right! Why not ignore the mounds of evidence and go with blind faith?!?!? Brilliant! No more tests in science class! Yeah!!!
Damn, I had the spaced out so nice!

BBT = Mounds of evidence
goddidit = blind faith + denying evidence

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#150099 Jan 25, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
You said the "humbling her" was a good thing! In fact, you said something really stupid like, "I am very humbled by your praise." was the same as "He humbled her."
He said that?

The primary definition of the Hebrew word is "defile".

It's the same word used in Genesis 34:2.
"When Shechem son of Hamor the Hivite, the ruler of that area, saw her, he took her and violated her."

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#150100 Jan 25, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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You can only tell a line is curvy if you have a straight line to measure it against...
This is poorly worded. You can't tell if a line is curvy unless you know what "curvy" is, which can be defined mathematically. You don't need to know what "straight" is to know what "curvy" is. You need to know what "straight" is to know what "not straight" is, but "curvy" doesn't need that reference.
mtimber wrote:
The whole of scientific endeavour is built on the assumption that absolutes exist.
No. Do you really believe that? That is amazingly ignorant.
mtimber wrote:
No absolutes, no science.
LOL
mtimber wrote:
Morality is the same, no absolutes, no subjective interpretation of those absolutes.
No morality...
Put some clothes on that assertion!

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#150101 Jan 25, 2013
mtimber wrote:
This is an example of a rock of the gaps fallacy, which is a variant of the argument from ignorance. You fill what you do not understand with "arockdidit".
Tide with Beach wrote:
Haven't we went over the strawman fallacy? I do not propose that a rock has ever done anything. Do you have reading comprehension problems?
I told him this Wednesday. "Arockdidit" is a Christian straw man:
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...

Apparently, he didn't care.

Since: Sep 08

La Junta, CO

#150103 Jan 25, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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Really? Virtually no modern cultures practices that. Why? Because women are not viewed as the property of men. Women are not simply tools for male pleasure and babymaking.
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Yes, any culture which thought it was okay to capture women as property and subject them to marriage and sex without their consent is guilty of mistreating women. That was rape.
It appears that "everyone else was doing it!" is your best defense for the barbaric practices of the Israelites, approved by the Israelite god.
Oh, by many others and their gods, or even no gods, too.

I think you got dropped on the wrong planet. People live here.

BTW, warfare being the thing it is, the destroyed economies and lands, reduced availability of men, etc, it could be very difficult for the ladies to make a living. Other than short term recreational leases of their bodies. They could have starved to death.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#150104 Jan 25, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
I told him this Wednesday. "Arockdidit" is a Christian straw man:
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
Apparently, he didn't care.
Ah, so you've met.

Have you seen the movie Dinner for Schmucks?

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#150105 Jan 25, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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Do you have an example you would like to put forward?
The Albigensian Crusade was not a very good example of "love one another".

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#150106 Jan 25, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Oh, by many others and their gods, or even no gods, too.
I think you got dropped on the wrong planet. People live here.
So the god of the Old Testament is simply another flawed person stuck in the circumstances of his culture?
Dave Nelson wrote:
BTW, warfare being the thing it is, the destroyed economies and lands, reduced availability of men, etc, it could be very difficult for the ladies to make a living. Other than short term recreational leases of their bodies. They could have starved to death.
So the rapists are doing the women a favor by claiming them as sex-wives after they kill their families? What great guys.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#150107 Jan 25, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Haven't we went over the strawman fallacy?
I do not propose that a rock has ever done anything.
Do you have reading comprehension problems?
Well, some rocks do suddenly decide that friction and inertia are insufficient, and succumb to gravity.

I can attest to this from painful personal experience.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#150108 Jan 25, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
Well, some rocks do suddenly decide that friction and inertia are insufficient, and succumb to gravity.
I can attest to this from painful personal experience.
You can get a harder head if you believe in the Jesus.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#150109 Jan 25, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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You can get a harder head if you believe in the Jesus.
Isn't that in the requirements?

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#150110 Jan 25, 2013
madscot wrote:
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Thank you
Hopefully you find this. Im still using my phone.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#150114 Jan 25, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Haven't we went over the strawman fallacy?
I do not propose that a rock has ever done anything.
Do you have reading comprehension problems?
Helllooo! Dinosaurs....big rock...EXTINCTION...die!!!

arockdidit! I have scientific proof, so there!

Not so clever now, are u Tide?:-p

“Nothing can stop, This Pony..”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#150115 Jan 25, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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Helllooo! Dinosaurs....big rock...EXTINCTION...die!!!
arockdidit! I have scientific proof, so there!
Not so clever now, are u Tide?:-p

You've dropped your rock.

http://www.hark.com/clips/zsmnpzjvbg-youve-dr...

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#150117 Jan 25, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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You've dropped your rock.
http://www.hark.com/clips/zsmnpzjvbg-youve-dr...
That's an amazing film!

I watched a really good film, Django unchained!!! Have u seen it?

“Nothing can stop, This Pony..”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#150118 Jan 25, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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That's an amazing film!
I watched a really good film, Django unchained!!! Have u seen it?
I Know I couldn't resist shaking his hand.:)

Since: Oct 12

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#150119 Jan 25, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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I Know I couldn't resist shaking his hand.:)
What?

U talkin' about leonardo hand shake...gun shot thing?

Was leonardo going to shoot beard guy? why did the beard guy do it? why? i didn't want that to happen!!:-(

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#150120 Jan 25, 2013
Imagine that the universe erupted into existence some fifteen billion years ago. That a shapeless cloud of dust emerging out of that luminous expansion, slowly congealed into a solid orb, worked its way into gravitational orbit around the sun, and through a complex interaction of various chemical elements and gases over billions of years, generated a primordial biosphere capable of not only begetting life, but sustaining and proliferating life.

Now, imagine none of that happened. None of it is true. Are you somehow diminished? Have you morphed into a Christian before your very eyes filled with an intense desire to bow and scrape before a human figure nailed to two pieces of wood? No, of course not! So why not consider other ideas that are equally valid such as transcendent potential? There really is a transcendent dimension and it's not just a theory. The Aspect's experiment verifies that objects really do have connections OUTSIDE of space and time that effect things INSIDE space and time. In other words, matter is not SUPREME. If it isn't, what is? Anyone who does not believe that the answer is worth pursuing is not interested in discovering the truth, but only interested in clinging to old unshifting religious and scientific paradigms.

Quantum physics doesn't depict objects as definite things. In quantum physics, objects are seen as possibilities, possibility waves. So then the question arises, what converts possibility into actuality? If physical laws are solely responsible, then they should explain how this process happens. They don't. Instead they confuse the issue hence the search for a unified theory. Interestingly, all the paradoxes of quantum physics could be easily solved if conventional science accepted consciousness (spirit) as the basis of being, which in no way means accepting the dogma of ANY religion. It is not only entirely possible, but probable that parallel universes radically different from our own lie beyond the domain of physical science.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#150121 Jan 25, 2013
Clementia wrote:
Helllooo! Dinosaurs....big rock...EXTINCTION...die!!!
arockdidit! I have scientific proof, so there!
Not so clever now, are u Tide?:-p
Who was driving the rock?

Which space cop didn't pull it over for speeding?

Who left the keys to the rock in the ignition?

Let's not play the blame game, Clementia. There are a lot of dirty hands out there.

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