Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#150093 Jan 25, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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Really? Virtually no modern cultures practices that. Why? Because women are not viewed as the property of men. Women are not simply tools for male pleasure and babymaking.
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Yes, any culture which thought it was okay to capture women as property and subject them to marriage and sex without their consent is guilty of mistreating women. That was rape.
It appears that "everyone else was doing it!" is your best defense for the barbaric practices of the Israelites, approved by the Israelite god.
Oh this was practiced by many to settle dispute and bring peace to Kingdoms. Such was the way to bring peace, and still is to some degree, just the contracts are less binding in modern times.

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#150094 Jan 25, 2013
mtimber wrote:
Do you have an example you would like to put forward?
Is there a point to this?

Cut to the chase.

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#150095 Jan 25, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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What, like nothing exploded, that kind of story that requires immense faith?
Special pleading.
New name, same old bullshit.

BBT VS goddidit
Mounds blind faith
of
evidence

You're right! Why not ignore the mounds of evidence and go with blind faith?!?!? Brilliant! No more tests in science class! Yeah!!!

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

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#150096 Jan 25, 2013
mtimber wrote:
This is an example of a rock of the gaps fallacy, which is a variant of the argument from ignorance.
You fill what you do not understand with "arockdidit".
See how arbitrary claims work?
Do you have a logical reasoned response to make instead, or do you just want to make arbitrary claims and expect others just to accept them?
Haven't we went over the strawman fallacy?

I do not propose that a rock has ever done anything.

Do you have reading comprehension problems?

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#150097 Jan 25, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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If you will recall, in previous statements you were insinuating that “humble her,” was rape which I very much disagreed.
You may disagree all you want. You can ignore all you want. You can lie all you want.

You ignored: Deu 21:11 And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;

Notice that the woman does not have a choice in the matter.

Deu 21:12 Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house; and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;

Does this sound like something a woman would do of her own free will?

Deu 21:14 And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou hast humbled her.

You said the "humbling her" was a good thing! In fact, you said something really stupid like, "I am very humbled by your praise." was the same as "He humbled her."

As I have said many times, you are either willfully stupid or a troll and I cannot help either.

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#150098 Jan 25, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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New name, same old bullshit.
BBT VS goddidit
Mounds blind faith
of
evidence
You're right! Why not ignore the mounds of evidence and go with blind faith?!?!? Brilliant! No more tests in science class! Yeah!!!
Damn, I had the spaced out so nice!

BBT = Mounds of evidence
goddidit = blind faith + denying evidence

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#150099 Jan 25, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
You said the "humbling her" was a good thing! In fact, you said something really stupid like, "I am very humbled by your praise." was the same as "He humbled her."
He said that?

The primary definition of the Hebrew word is "defile".

It's the same word used in Genesis 34:2.
"When Shechem son of Hamor the Hivite, the ruler of that area, saw her, he took her and violated her."

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#150100 Jan 25, 2013
mtimber wrote:
...
You can only tell a line is curvy if you have a straight line to measure it against...
This is poorly worded. You can't tell if a line is curvy unless you know what "curvy" is, which can be defined mathematically. You don't need to know what "straight" is to know what "curvy" is. You need to know what "straight" is to know what "not straight" is, but "curvy" doesn't need that reference.
mtimber wrote:
The whole of scientific endeavour is built on the assumption that absolutes exist.
No. Do you really believe that? That is amazingly ignorant.
mtimber wrote:
No absolutes, no science.
LOL
mtimber wrote:
Morality is the same, no absolutes, no subjective interpretation of those absolutes.
No morality...
Put some clothes on that assertion!

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#150101 Jan 25, 2013
mtimber wrote:
This is an example of a rock of the gaps fallacy, which is a variant of the argument from ignorance. You fill what you do not understand with "arockdidit".
Tide with Beach wrote:
Haven't we went over the strawman fallacy? I do not propose that a rock has ever done anything. Do you have reading comprehension problems?
I told him this Wednesday. "Arockdidit" is a Christian straw man:
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...

Apparently, he didn't care.

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#150103 Jan 25, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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Really? Virtually no modern cultures practices that. Why? Because women are not viewed as the property of men. Women are not simply tools for male pleasure and babymaking.
<quoted text>
Yes, any culture which thought it was okay to capture women as property and subject them to marriage and sex without their consent is guilty of mistreating women. That was rape.
It appears that "everyone else was doing it!" is your best defense for the barbaric practices of the Israelites, approved by the Israelite god.
Oh, by many others and their gods, or even no gods, too.

I think you got dropped on the wrong planet. People live here.

BTW, warfare being the thing it is, the destroyed economies and lands, reduced availability of men, etc, it could be very difficult for the ladies to make a living. Other than short term recreational leases of their bodies. They could have starved to death.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#150104 Jan 25, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
I told him this Wednesday. "Arockdidit" is a Christian straw man:
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
Apparently, he didn't care.
Ah, so you've met.

Have you seen the movie Dinner for Schmucks?

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#150105 Jan 25, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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Do you have an example you would like to put forward?
The Albigensian Crusade was not a very good example of "love one another".

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#150106 Jan 25, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Oh, by many others and their gods, or even no gods, too.
I think you got dropped on the wrong planet. People live here.
So the god of the Old Testament is simply another flawed person stuck in the circumstances of his culture?
Dave Nelson wrote:
BTW, warfare being the thing it is, the destroyed economies and lands, reduced availability of men, etc, it could be very difficult for the ladies to make a living. Other than short term recreational leases of their bodies. They could have starved to death.
So the rapists are doing the women a favor by claiming them as sex-wives after they kill their families? What great guys.

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#150107 Jan 25, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Haven't we went over the strawman fallacy?
I do not propose that a rock has ever done anything.
Do you have reading comprehension problems?
Well, some rocks do suddenly decide that friction and inertia are insufficient, and succumb to gravity.

I can attest to this from painful personal experience.

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#150108 Jan 25, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
Well, some rocks do suddenly decide that friction and inertia are insufficient, and succumb to gravity.
I can attest to this from painful personal experience.
You can get a harder head if you believe in the Jesus.

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#150109 Jan 25, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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You can get a harder head if you believe in the Jesus.
Isn't that in the requirements?

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#150110 Jan 25, 2013
madscot wrote:
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Thank you
Hopefully you find this. Im still using my phone.

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#150114 Jan 25, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Haven't we went over the strawman fallacy?
I do not propose that a rock has ever done anything.
Do you have reading comprehension problems?
Helllooo! Dinosaurs....big rock...EXTINCTION...die!!!

arockdidit! I have scientific proof, so there!

Not so clever now, are u Tide?:-p

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#150115 Jan 25, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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Helllooo! Dinosaurs....big rock...EXTINCTION...die!!!
arockdidit! I have scientific proof, so there!
Not so clever now, are u Tide?:-p

You've dropped your rock.

http://www.hark.com/clips/zsmnpzjvbg-youve-dr...

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#150117 Jan 25, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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You've dropped your rock.
http://www.hark.com/clips/zsmnpzjvbg-youve-dr...
That's an amazing film!

I watched a really good film, Django unchained!!! Have u seen it?

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