Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#149980 Jan 24, 2013
You see half wit you are doing it backwards. Before you can that god is a creator or an authority you fist need to demonstrate observable proof for a god.

Until you have demonstrated and defined a god the rest is imagination, nothing more.
mtimber wrote:
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You are alive.
Even debating with me, proves Gods existence.
Without Him, you have no basis for absolute laws of logic.
By debating and occasionally using reason, you prove His existence...

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#149982 Jan 24, 2013
And by death you mean pay 50 sheckles. Put every infant in the city to the sword so commands your god. Was god immoral here?
Eagle12 wrote:
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Just to make it clear as with many Atheist you are making your own assumptions not based in scripture. Rape was a crime punishable by death. If it happened it was illegal and risky for the perpetrator.
Who says a soldier doesn’t want to have a loving relationship with a former enemy female?
Your assertions are not scripturally based. If I’m wrong then please supply the scripture that says marriage was a form of forced rape. If you can’t supply biblical proof just say you have no proof.
The women were war brides from a defeated enemy. No where does it say they were forced to marry and forced to have sex. Nor does the scripture imply of forced rape.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#149983 Jan 24, 2013
This will of course be ignored or the sheep will bleat you took it out of context. The dodgeball will continue bud. They lack the honesty to answer for their bible's atrocities.
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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My grandfather married a German lady after the war and he failed to follow god's laws on the matter.
Deuteronomy 21:10 When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the Lord thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive,
11 And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
12 Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
13 And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.
14 And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou hast humbled her.
What?!?! He could sell her because he humbled her?!?!? What did you say that meant? LOL!

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#149984 Jan 24, 2013
Ladies and gentlemen as expected Derek4's other screen name mtimber has refused to answer any question and continues to dodge actual debate.

He wishes to claim his god is the absolute authority when it comes to morality yet when questioned about the horrific acts his god committed and commanded his people to do he as expected cries that this is an unfair off topic question.

So remember his god is the absolute authority on morality, just don't bring up examples of his god's morality or he will hide and scream no fair.

Typical unintelligent, intellectually dishonest Christian idiot trolls like him are a dime per 100,000.

Since: Sep 08

La Junta, CO

#149985 Jan 24, 2013
Poor God.

He's going to have to leave town.

His life will be pure Hell after all of these righteous Topix atheists show up on his doorstep.

Hope he doesn't turn over the keys to the kingdom to them.

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#149986 Jan 24, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Poor God.
He's going to have to leave town.
His life will be pure Hell after all of these righteous Topix atheists show up on his doorstep.
Hope he doesn't turn over the keys to the kingdom to them.
Do you always talk to yourself? That sure would explain your god obsession.

Since: Sep 08

La Junta, CO

#149987 Jan 24, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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We dream to 'play out' scenarios in the safety of sleep rather than in the dangerous real world. We are good enough at extrapolation to be able to work through some basics.
?

Some pretty far out scenarios in some dreams. Totally disconnected from this world. You forget a lot of them right away.

Keep going, though. Give us the mechanics and evolutionary reasons for such things,

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#149988 Jan 24, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Poor God.
He's going to have to leave town.
His life will be pure Hell after all of these righteous Topix atheists show up on his doorstep.
Hope he doesn't turn over the keys to the kingdom to them.
Yeah, poor Quetzalcoatl.

Or was Osiris?

Zeus maybe?

Thor?

Will the real god hand over the keys to the kingdom.
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#149989 Jan 24, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Poor God.
He's going to have to leave town.
His life will be pure Hell after all of these righteous Topix atheists show up on his doorstep.
Hope he doesn't turn over the keys to the kingdom to them.
Nah, we won't be a problem. We'll simply be tossed in the Lake of Fire.

Since: Sep 08

La Junta, CO

#149990 Jan 24, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Which you clearly did not understand.
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A bit strangely said, but I can live with this so far.
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Why do you say that? What do you think 'helps it along'?
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Not exactly. The probabilities of the different possibilities can be calculated. And quite accurately, at that.
I guess I think in more real world physical terms than you can.

Picture yourself sitting on a stadium bench with people siting next to each other. A relative equilibrium of forces emanating from each is reached, but a change in one changes the transfer down the line. Anywhere from a push to the transfer of heat. The universe is made the same way according to mainstream physics.

Each particle in each atom is locked in place by the position and state of each and every other particle in the universe. Gravity and EM are universal in their reach.

Balance two 4000 ton weights on a perfect frictionless balance beam. Then drop a feather on one of them. What is supposed to happen?

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#149991 Jan 24, 2013
River Tam wrote:
The acts of breathing and sneezing prove that.
Achoooo!

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#149992 Jan 24, 2013
mtimber wrote:
Actually, he got that from Bahnsen and Van Till and others.
Who got it from the Bible.
I am bemused as to what crime you think is being made here?
It would be much easier for me, if you went and educated yourself on some of these issues, so that I did not have to keep trying to explain the obvious to you.
Please, go and watch Greg Bahnsen or Dr Jason Lyle, they are all pre-suppositional apologists, just like myself...
This argument is called:
Pre-suppositional apologetics if someone wants to go and check it out.
Christians on here, should understand it, you will soon realise that militant atheists do not have an argument against this.
But have to reduce their worldview to absurdity to escape the logical conclusion...
LOL

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#149993 Jan 24, 2013
madscot wrote:
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I agree but the scenario you presented was very challenging. I really want to get my head wrapped around it. Perhaps you could PM me and we could go into it more in depth. If you don't want to that's cool too.
Sure. I don't know how to PM though. Maybe if i use the full site instead of the mobile site.... i can actually find a really good video where i stole that last example from. Its good. I'll try to remember to find it tomorrow.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#149994 Jan 24, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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?
Some pretty far out scenarios in some dreams. Totally disconnected from this world. You forget a lot of them right away.
You should forget them too. Then, perhaps, you could become connected to this world.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#149995 Jan 24, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Ladies and gentlemen as expected Derek4's other screen name mtimber has refused to answer any question and continues to dodge actual debate.
He wishes to claim his god is the absolute authority when it comes to morality yet when questioned about the horrific acts his god committed and commanded his people to do he as expected cries that this is an unfair off topic question.
So remember his god is the absolute authority on morality, just don't bring up examples of his god's morality or he will hide and scream no fair.
Typical unintelligent, intellectually dishonest Christian idiot trolls like him are a dime per 100,000.
I could be wrong... but i don't think he is Derek. Derek is mean and floods the board with cut and paste BS from websites he doesn't even read. Mtimber is fun. I disagree with most if what he has to say but he keeps himself under control and i respect that.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#149996 Jan 24, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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I guess I think in more real world physical terms than you can.
Picture yourself sitting on a stadium bench with people siting next to each other. A relative equilibrium of forces emanating from each is reached, but a change in one changes the transfer down the line. Anywhere from a push to the transfer of heat. The universe is made the same way according to mainstream physics.
Each particle in each atom is locked in place by the position and state of each and every other particle in the universe. Gravity and EM are universal in their reach.
Balance two 4000 ton weights on a perfect frictionless balance beam. Then drop a feather on one of them. What is supposed to happen?
I know.

God will pop out of the balance beam, grab the feather, and tickle himself with it.

How did I do, Dave?

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#149997 Jan 24, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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LOL
LOL indeed.

I put this guy under the Catcher white sheet just as soon as he showed up.

Turns out he's a new name for some other waste of time.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#149998 Jan 24, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Achoooo!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =g0lbfEb8MMkXX
Buttered flies?

Slippery creatures at best.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#149999 Jan 24, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
LOL indeed.
I put this guy under the Catcher white sheet just as soon as he showed up.
Turns out he's a new name for some other waste of time.
I haven't seen his personality under another name, but I don't venture out too much.

I should have thought of it before, but I'm pretty sure IANS would like to talk to him.

Do you know if he's been posting somewhere lately?

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#150000 Jan 24, 2013
River Tam wrote:
Buttered flies?
Slippery creatures at best.


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