Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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mtimber wrote:
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So your worldview starts from a negative...
Why is it so important, do you think, that you have to start from a position of denial in order to identify yourself?
Denial only makes sense if there is something to deny...
Since the overall position of society has been for generations that deities *do* exist, atheists have typically been defined by the theists. But that lack of belief in a deity is hardly the defining point of anything other than the narrow question of whether deities exist.

I identify more as a humanist than I do as an atheist. Atheism is a minor point in the grand scheme of things.

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Jan 22, 2013
 
That's funny! Working on a stand up comedy routine I see. Be sure to fit in where Jesus and Paul both condoned slavery.

That's a good peon.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yes, and it was the Hebrews & Levites that started to change society's outlook on slaves.
I know these atheists want to make the bible look evil because it condoned slavery, but it was a far better form of slavery, especially compared to other cultures in that era that owned slaves.

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Jan 22, 2013
 
mtimber wrote:
That is true, my brain has been washed of secular nonsense and illogical worldviews that serve no purpose other than to justify rebellion against the Creator.
You're confusing rebellion with rejection. I reject your claims of a creator god. I reject all god claims.
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So yes, there is nothing you can do for me.
Unless of course you could show empirically that arockdidit.
Why would I do that?

Would it be too much to ask for a little sophistication?

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Let us know if you ever have something to say ok retard?

That's a good half wit go pray to your retarded god.
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Now let me apply the same arbitrary argument so you can see how logically absurd it is, back to you:
EVERY argument for arockdidit is an argument from ignorance based not upon knowledge but rather the absence of it. arockdidit = human ignorance.
That rabbit hole isn't worth pursuing.

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Jan 22, 2013
 
Yes he was praying and thanking god for the day out loud for the cancer patient.

As usual you like a total retard saw someone do something bad and blindly wailed he must have been an atheist. It's just so childish daffy no wonder people think you are a 12 year old. Mentally you never progressed.
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Was he really praying or was he meditating in a moment of silence? My father who was an atheist would be respectful when prayer was said at the dinner table. He would bow his head and close his eyes out of respect to his mother. That doesnít indicate he prayed.
Perhaps Lance did pray, I donít know. I seriously doubt you know for sure. On another subject I would like to say how much I admire your rattlesnake diplomacy. Not everyone has the self control you do. Your kind and sweet words always strike a chord with me.

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Jan 22, 2013
 
We're you going to sit your fatass on her? That would crush some bones like all the toilet seats you have crushed.
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I bet I could make you open your eyes.
Some women have thought they would pop out of their sockets.
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mtimber wrote:
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So rape is determined by the situation?
I guess it is since you worship someone who raped a 12 year old virgin married girl named Mary.
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Jan 22, 2013
 
Try that again without errors.
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You are still doing it.
You are appealing to an absolute standard of morality, whilst denying one exists.
If there is not an absolute standard, they you cannot argue that "anything" is immoral...

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TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Yes you did. You said that you learned it or agree with your saints and that they had it all right. Since I don't follow your saints or your mummy, I must be wrong to some degree.
u do follow what the saints say, u cute muppet!

Don't u think slavery is wrong? Of course u do!

Don't u think we should try to be good people and help each other? Of course u do!!!

If u didn't, u wouldn't be here fighting with the christians for believing in an evil God!

You r an annoying sheepy boy, but from what u say, u sound like a good human-being!

I told u, we r not the chosen people of God!! Good people can belong to any religion or no religion, they can even believe in unicorns!! But people who TRY to be good humans are the people of 'GOD'!

If everyone in the world loved each other, do u think any religion would have been created? NO, it wouldn't have!! Coz everyone would be a saint!!

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Tide with Beach wrote:
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"I'd like to thank the academy for recognizing my brilliance. I know it must have been difficult for people of your mental stature. Truly, I'm a little surprised you spelled my name right. Kudos.
I must also thank my mother and father, mom, dad, please, stand up...
A round of applause for my folks please! They're great. Raising them since I was five years old was tough, but I think the results speak for themselves. My mom just graduated from Harvard! Dad's going for his doctorate...good luck dad! I'm so proud.
Um, I'd like to thank Albert Einstein for giving me some great ideas for things to correct or improve upon. I'd be lost without his fumbling life's work. Figuring out how to propel an object beyond the speed of light really made my Tuesday.
I'd also like to thank myself. Thanks me! I'm so smart. I couldn't have done it without me. Well, that's it.
Thanks for the award...but guys, try to look for someone else next year. My shelves are totally full of these things!"
ROFL!!

No, I want more!!!! I'll make room, don't u worry!

@Buck....i'd rather have my eyes closed!

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Jan 22, 2013
 
Clementia wrote:
ROFL!!
No, I want more!!!! I'll make room, don't u worry!
@Buck....i'd rather have my eyes closed!
I can build you another shelf, no problem.

If you don't want to catch a plane, why not a boat?

You can come over on a tug boat, or a canoe, or a kayak, or a steamer, or a barge, or a raft, or a yacht, or a cruise ship...

What about it? I can build you a raft!

I'd have to send it over to you though.

Maybe I'll just build the raft, and bring the award to you myself. No, I'm not a strong swimmer. I might get eaten up by a shark.

Hmmmmm...

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#149381
Jan 22, 2013
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>Topix atheists such as that are kinda numb. Wouldn't know if they got toasted or not.

These Topix atheists have the minds of children. Lots of wishful thinking without maturity and a grasp of the reality they live in. Just resentment because things ain't the way they think it should be. They need to get out of their cocoons more often.

How's it going, Buck? Hope everything is going well.
That was one of your best projections yet, Dave.

Still got all your fingers?

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Jan 22, 2013
 
Aerobatty wrote:
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That was one of your best projections yet, Dave.
Still got all your fingers?
Mostly.

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Jan 22, 2013
 
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>That is true, my brain has been washed of secular nonsense and illogical worldviews that serve no purpose other than to justify rebellion against the Creator.

So yes, there is nothing you can do for me.

Unless of course you could show empirically that arockdidit.
What creator?

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Givemeliberty wrote:
Racist against the dead? Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a! Schizo you are something else! And generally we bury the dead in the ground so what is your problem? Was your so called burned to death sister cremated and not buried? If she was cremated I am sorry but in that case after death she would just be ashes in an urn.
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My beloved Queen Puggy is ashes now, in a beautiful urn with her puppy photo on the front ~ she was 13 when she died in my arms as we both lay cuddled up together, knowing these were her last hours. I still cuddle up where I said my last words to my Queen.
No, my sister (Gillian, a beautiful 2 year old girl, golden hair and blue eyes, so you might get a picture of her) was burned to death by boys playing with matches. She lays buried in the ground and it was her death and grave that you were so cruelly laughing about. No need to apologise about a cremation, and of course I felt you defiled her ~ there is no way she can defend herself against your cruel words and laughter, and just because you think her Soul does not exist, does not simply wipe it away.

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Jan 22, 2013
 
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Exactly my point, science is not faith.
Because it relies on logical deductive reasoning , material evidence, empirical evidence , and observation.
I'll just repost what you were replying to; somehow you have overlooked the meaning of Faith according to the dictionary.

"***faith - definition of faith by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and ...
www.thefreedictionary.com/faith
Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing. 2. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence**** "

Confident belief in an idea or a thing...... Faith in Science v Faith in GOD!!

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Givemeliberty wrote:
Let us know if you ever have something to say ok retard?
That's a good half wit go pray to your retarded god.
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Got something to say? Amazing intelligent posting, thank you so much for the information you have passed on, I am going off to analyse this new information and digest it as I should. What is your problem exactly? Might be better bringing it out in the open, so we know why you hate Christians (Or others who have Faith in GOD to a degree) or do you just hate life? And blame us?

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Tide with Beach wrote:
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I rail against Christianity, not necessarily Christians. Christianity has a doctrine and a history deserving of harsh ridicule and condemnation.
Look at what Christianity did to you. You aren't able to learn anything that contradicts your programming. I learn new things everyday, and change my mind often in response to better information coming in. My morality and ethics continue to improve as I learn more about the world and humanity. Your worldview was born thousands of years ago out of ignorant tribalism.
There is nothing in the Bible or in the behavior of Christians that suggests a link to a deity. It's a religion. People in religions believe their religions. There are many religions. If all those people believe just like you do, what sets you apart? Do you believe they are being deceived or deluded? Could that not happen to you? Are you immune to being deceived?
Why do you think Christians don't learn anything else? You accuse us of being lazy in our research, and your own research is deplorable on Christians and how they further their studied!?

There is much in the Bible that links us to our Deity, as you call HIM, and much only those who comprehend the true values of these words will understand them. It is not a Novel, where a story line runs straight through the middle and it all makes perfect sense.

Think about some stuff; GOD told us HE grieves at our evil thoughts, intents and actions, and obviously HE tried to stamp it out. There are some issues here of course, because it is very plain that evil is rampant, on Earth today.

However, thinking about things, one can see that slowly but surely things are happening; more and more people are being incarcerated for more than 1 lifetime, so no hope of getting out, and the evil are herding themselves together. Some are so keen to be segregated, they have killer gang numbers tabooed all over themselves.

We have capital punishment in the world today; trying to rid the world of evil, and our history is deplorable. Blame GOD for the killings of your worst criminals today without a blink of the eye or thank your Government?

Many laugh and have laughed at the Muslims killing themselves off; how long can an army last if their recruits kill themselves? But these are only those that call themselves Muslims but are not Muslims, according to the Muslims, and all they want to do is live in Peace. With Christians and Jews. And vice versa......

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Jan 22, 2013
 
Serah wrote:
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I'll just repost what you were replying to; somehow you have overlooked the meaning of Faith according to the dictionary.
"***faith - definition of faith by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and ...
www.thefreedictionary.com/faith
Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing. 2. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence**** "
Confident belief in an idea or a thing...... Faith in Science v Faith in GOD!!

There is no blind faith to be found in science. That's just your dismal effort to keep belief alive with no evidence.
But your faith does not require evidence. Science in fact does
(end of faith).
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Jan 22, 2013
 
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Why do you think Christians don't learn anything else? You accuse us of being lazy in our research, and your own research is deplorable on Christians and how they further their studied!?
There is much in the Bible that links us to our Deity, as you call HIM, and much only those who comprehend the true values of these words will understand them. It is not a Novel, where a story line runs straight through the middle and it all makes perfect sense.
Think about some stuff; GOD told us HE grieves at our evil thoughts, intents and actions, and obviously HE tried to stamp it out. There are some issues here of course, because it is very plain that evil is rampant, on Earth today.
However, thinking about things, one can see that slowly but surely things are happening; more and more people are being incarcerated for more than 1 lifetime, so no hope of getting out, and the evil are herding themselves together. Some are so keen to be segregated, they have killer gang numbers tabooed all over themselves.
We have capital punishment in the world today; trying to rid the world of evil, and our history is deplorable. Blame GOD for the killings of your worst criminals today without a blink of the eye or thank your Government?
Many laugh and have laughed at the Muslims killing themselves off; how long can an army last if their recruits kill themselves? But these are only those that call themselves Muslims but are not Muslims, according to the Muslims, and all they want to do is live in Peace. With Christians and Jews. And vice versa......
Big ego small brain syndrome. Very common amongst godbots.

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