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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#149405 Jan 22, 2013
Pat wrote:
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Maybe down along hillbilly highway but not up here where I live. Religion is now being viewed more for what it is up here, a carnival side show hustle.
"Up here"? Are you on a mountain or something? Or are you always high?
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#149406 Jan 22, 2013
Gay BOUNCE.
Dave Nelson wrote:
HUGE^6

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#149407 Jan 22, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Iain Banks punctured your twatballoon years ago.
Instead of getting into a long debate about whether it is right or wrong to use torture to get information to save people from an impending bomb blast he cut through it thus:
Yes.
You torture the person.
You prevent the bomb killing civilians.
Then you hand yourself in to the authorities.
End of moral dilemma.
<quoted text>
WTF?

So I see the liberal in you says its bad to tirture terrorists to save innocent lives....

Nice.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#149408 Jan 22, 2013
Thinking wrote:
No, not theology.
It's called doing the right thing.
The default position is to avoid torture wherever possible.
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Which is more "right"?

To not torture a few terrorists?

OR

To torture a few terrorists and save possibly hundreds of innocent people?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#149409 Jan 22, 2013
Thinking wrote:
You're still incorrect.
It would be immoral not to save civilians from a bomb blast if you could.
An all powerful god that lets children get shot, or die of leukaemia, or get raped by priests, or to be threatened with eternal damnation would also be immoral- if such a god existed.
<quoted text>
You're still incorrect.

God, who is all powerful, is not in control if those that do evil and harm or kill others.

He gave us free will.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#149410 Jan 22, 2013
Clementia wrote:
U mean Nemo?
Oh, can i have Dory? please???? She can teach us whale!
Seahorses are amazing! The man raises the kids doesn't he? U men should learn something!!
I really liked that movie.

Let's watch it in the pool while we play seahorse.

Do you know how to play seahorse?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#149411 Jan 22, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> One micron, but not one mole are you nuts? N/M we already know the answer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_knife

The limitation is what makes the scribe line. Glass is individual molecules that cooled together. Not bonded like steel.

You never read Snow Crash?

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#149412 Jan 22, 2013
Wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>Why is there no trace of this mass migration of every animal on Earth from that spot? None died along the way? How did they know how to be back to their former habitats? How did the land animals get to places like Australia?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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There was a bridge, like the one in Thor (Bifrost?) that allowed ease of passage.
lol
I don't know, do you?
Nope. I'm just pointing out that things like that show how the flood story could not possibly happened as described.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#149413 Jan 22, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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How'd you like the second inaugural?
Pretty neat stuff, no?
Not $170 million worth of neat stuff....
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#149414 Jan 22, 2013
Cool, I choose to denounce your god yet not go to hell.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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He gave us free will.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#149415 Jan 22, 2013
You don't read too well.
I said do it- but accept the consequences.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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WTF?
So I see the liberal in you says its bad to tirture terrorists to save innocent lives....
Nice.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#149416 Jan 22, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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Please supply the verse to your claim.
No, I have supplied is many times. If you don't want to read your beloved bible, I cannot help you.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#149417 Jan 22, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Nope. I'm just pointing out that things like that show how the flood story could not possibly happened as described.
I agree. I've posted several times that I believe the flood was a massive, localized flood.

Creationists hate me for it.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#149418 Jan 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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WTF?
So I see the liberal in you says its bad to tirture terrorists to save innocent lives....
Nice.
Torture doesn't save lives. Torture just makes the person being tortured say or do anything to save themselves. It's well known within the intelligence community that torture is not an effective way to get valid information.

Moreover, torture just turns us as a society into something as bad as those we call our enemies. It's a perfect example of the ends not justifying the means. When our society condones things like torture, then it is no longer worthy of defending.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#149419 Jan 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You're still incorrect.
God, who is all powerful, is not in control if those that do evil and harm or kill others.
He gave us free will.
You contradict yourself. Something that is all-powerful is by definition in control of everything. Any lack of control takes away omnipotence.

Furthermore, free-will is impossible if God knows the future and the destiny of everything in advance anyway: If God knows you will do X, can you do Y instead?

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#149420 Jan 22, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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u do follow what the saints say, u cute muppet!
Don't u think slavery is wrong? Of course u do!
Don't u think we should try to be good people and help each other? Of course u do!!!
If u didn't, u wouldn't be here fighting with the christians for believing in an evil God!
You r an annoying sheepy boy, but from what u say, u sound like a good human-being!
I told u, we r not the chosen people of God!! Good people can belong to any religion or no religion, they can even believe in unicorns!! But people who TRY to be good humans are the people of 'GOD'!
If everyone in the world loved each other, do u think any religion would have been created? NO, it wouldn't have!! Coz everyone would be a saint!!
Just because I believe that murder is wrong, it does not mean that I follow the bible god. Just because I am nice to people, doesn't mean that I follow your saints.

Yes, you are not the chosen people; your people just remembered the old religion....

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#149421 Jan 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Not $170 million worth of neat stuff....
Still whining.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#149422 Jan 22, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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I really liked that movie.
Let's watch it in the pool while we play seahorse.
Do you know how to play seahorse?
OMG, R U SAYING WHAT I THINK U SAYING?

You want me to give u a piggyback in the pool?

I ain't strong and u ain't light, u'll break by back!

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#149423 Jan 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I agree. I've posted several times that I believe the flood was a massive, localized flood.
Creationists hate me for it.
Well, creationists are nuts anyway, so that's cool.

But let's put aside the literal translation of the story. If the flood story is a moral parable, then what kind of morality is it promoting? From what I can see, it says God didn't know the consequences of creating humans the way it did, it decided to destroy all life on Earth (not just humans) except for a pair of each animal and Noah's family. Which means that children, babies, and even fetuses in pregnant women were too evil in the sight of God to survive. Yet after the flood receded, humans became just as bad as before, so all that terrible destruction was for naught anyway. What are we supposed to learn about God from this story of ineffective global genocide?

Since: Oct 12

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#149424 Jan 22, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Just because I believe that murder is wrong, it does not mean that I follow the bible god. Just because I am nice to people, doesn't mean that I follow your saints.
Yes, you are not the chosen people; your people just remembered the old religion....
bye-bye, sheepy guy!

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