Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#149385 Jan 22, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Exactly my point, science is not faith.
Because it relies on logical deductive reasoning , material evidence, empirical evidence , and observation.
I'll just repost what you were replying to; somehow you have overlooked the meaning of Faith according to the dictionary.

"***faith - definition of faith by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and ...
www.thefreedictionary.com/faith
Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing. 2. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence**** "

Confident belief in an idea or a thing...... Faith in Science v Faith in GOD!!

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Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#149386 Jan 22, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Let us know if you ever have something to say ok retard?
That's a good half wit go pray to your retarded god.
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Got something to say? Amazing intelligent posting, thank you so much for the information you have passed on, I am going off to analyse this new information and digest it as I should. What is your problem exactly? Might be better bringing it out in the open, so we know why you hate Christians (Or others who have Faith in GOD to a degree) or do you just hate life? And blame us?

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#149387 Jan 22, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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I rail against Christianity, not necessarily Christians. Christianity has a doctrine and a history deserving of harsh ridicule and condemnation.
Look at what Christianity did to you. You aren't able to learn anything that contradicts your programming. I learn new things everyday, and change my mind often in response to better information coming in. My morality and ethics continue to improve as I learn more about the world and humanity. Your worldview was born thousands of years ago out of ignorant tribalism.
There is nothing in the Bible or in the behavior of Christians that suggests a link to a deity. It's a religion. People in religions believe their religions. There are many religions. If all those people believe just like you do, what sets you apart? Do you believe they are being deceived or deluded? Could that not happen to you? Are you immune to being deceived?
Why do you think Christians don't learn anything else? You accuse us of being lazy in our research, and your own research is deplorable on Christians and how they further their studied!?

There is much in the Bible that links us to our Deity, as you call HIM, and much only those who comprehend the true values of these words will understand them. It is not a Novel, where a story line runs straight through the middle and it all makes perfect sense.

Think about some stuff; GOD told us HE grieves at our evil thoughts, intents and actions, and obviously HE tried to stamp it out. There are some issues here of course, because it is very plain that evil is rampant, on Earth today.

However, thinking about things, one can see that slowly but surely things are happening; more and more people are being incarcerated for more than 1 lifetime, so no hope of getting out, and the evil are herding themselves together. Some are so keen to be segregated, they have killer gang numbers tabooed all over themselves.

We have capital punishment in the world today; trying to rid the world of evil, and our history is deplorable. Blame GOD for the killings of your worst criminals today without a blink of the eye or thank your Government?

Many laugh and have laughed at the Muslims killing themselves off; how long can an army last if their recruits kill themselves? But these are only those that call themselves Muslims but are not Muslims, according to the Muslims, and all they want to do is live in Peace. With Christians and Jews. And vice versa......

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Since: Dec 10

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#149388 Jan 22, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll just repost what you were replying to; somehow you have overlooked the meaning of Faith according to the dictionary.
"***faith - definition of faith by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and ...
www.thefreedictionary.com/faith
Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing. 2. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence**** "
Confident belief in an idea or a thing...... Faith in Science v Faith in GOD!!

There is no blind faith to be found in science. That's just your dismal effort to keep belief alive with no evidence.
But your faith does not require evidence. Science in fact does
(end of faith).
Pat

Granby, CT

#149389 Jan 22, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Why do you think Christians don't learn anything else? You accuse us of being lazy in our research, and your own research is deplorable on Christians and how they further their studied!?
There is much in the Bible that links us to our Deity, as you call HIM, and much only those who comprehend the true values of these words will understand them. It is not a Novel, where a story line runs straight through the middle and it all makes perfect sense.
Think about some stuff; GOD told us HE grieves at our evil thoughts, intents and actions, and obviously HE tried to stamp it out. There are some issues here of course, because it is very plain that evil is rampant, on Earth today.
However, thinking about things, one can see that slowly but surely things are happening; more and more people are being incarcerated for more than 1 lifetime, so no hope of getting out, and the evil are herding themselves together. Some are so keen to be segregated, they have killer gang numbers tabooed all over themselves.
We have capital punishment in the world today; trying to rid the world of evil, and our history is deplorable. Blame GOD for the killings of your worst criminals today without a blink of the eye or thank your Government?
Many laugh and have laughed at the Muslims killing themselves off; how long can an army last if their recruits kill themselves? But these are only those that call themselves Muslims but are not Muslims, according to the Muslims, and all they want to do is live in Peace. With Christians and Jews. And vice versa......
Big ego small brain syndrome. Very common amongst godbots.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#149390 Jan 22, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no blind faith to be found in science. That's just your dismal effort to keep belief alive with no evidence.
But your faith does not require evidence. Science in fact does
(end of faith).
That was an incredibly silly statement for a mature and educated individual to make, Orally.

Did you not read that link I posted about the gravitational constant constantly changing? That is the basic building block for modern cosmology. All of your guesses are based upon it. How much is one percent of the universe, Orally? Quite a bit.

Your cosmology and physics is based upon math being inerrant. One problem with that is what you use as a yardstick, in addition to applying it correctly to the measured object.

Another biggie is the impossibility of measuring as you approach infinity.

Let's take volume for instance. How are you going to graph it to measure it? Forget not that the units you create with it do have to add up.

Back to centerpoints. Theoretical markers of no dimension. What kind of grid will you use to graph the volume of this universe? You have two basic choices, square or isometric. Square don't work. Iso has a problem due to the radial nature of a centerpoint. You have gaps between adjacent centerpoints. You run into problems when you calculate totals adding up units. Lines of demarcation and the sort. Those are theoretical lines. "Particles" have definite measurements, but the addition of them introduce space issues, and thus total volume.

The modern math system is too flawed to base your cosmology and universal perspectives on. You are confused about what science is and what it is supposed to be.

A one nanometer error can turn into one huge distance differential between calculation and reality.

Or something like that.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#149391 Jan 22, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
The modern math system is too flawed to base your cosmology and universal perspectives on. You are confused about what science is and what it is supposed to be.
Clearly,*someone* here is confused. I'd say it is the one who thinks that the math is flawed.

Since: Oct 12

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#149392 Jan 22, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
I can build you another shelf, no problem.
If you don't want to catch a plane, why not a boat?
You can come over on a tug boat, or a canoe, or a kayak, or a steamer, or a barge, or a raft, or a yacht, or a cruise ship...
What about it? I can build you a raft!
I'd have to send it over to you though.
Maybe I'll just build the raft, and bring the award to you myself. No, I'm not a strong swimmer. I might get eaten up by a shark.
Hmmmmm...
Oh God give me strength!! Men and DIY, NOOOOOOOOOOO!

Look, i'll meet u half way. There got to be some nice island in the middle of the ocean!

Just take good care of my award, i don't want shark bites all over it!

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#149393 Jan 22, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Clearly,*someone* here is confused. I'd say it is the one who thinks that the math is flawed.
More on the line the application of it.

Tell me, does a proton have a definite "edge" to it? Is it like a ball bearing? Or is it graduated "fields" of some sort? Which of course occupy space.

Just how hard are these things you think you observe?

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#149394 Jan 22, 2013
Clementia wrote:
Oh God give me strength!! Men and DIY, NOOOOOOOOOOO!
Look, i'll meet u half way. There got to be some nice island in the middle of the ocean!
Just take good care of my award, i don't want shark bites all over it!
I'm gonna get to work right away on a houseboat to sail to England!

I think it needs an indoor pool.

What do you think?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#149395 Jan 22, 2013
There is a HUGE^6 difference between the applied sciences and mathematics and those of the theoretical sciences. So many of these Topxi atheists don't understand that. The applied sciences work with real things. The math is made to fit the reality. It is the opposite in theoretical science.

These theoretical scientists these Topix atheist idiots bow down to ride the accomplishments of applied science, giving the illusion they aren't a bunch of wackos floating out there in space, ungrounded to reality. They are snake oil salesmen. There is funding to be gotten.

They are gamesters, not the real deal.

Or something like that.

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Since: Dec 10

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#149396 Jan 22, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
More on the line the application of it.
Tell me, does a proton have a definite "edge" to it? Is it like a ball bearing? Or is it graduated "fields" of some sort? Which of course occupy space.
Just how hard are these things you think you observe?
If My knives had the edge of protons, a sharpness would divide.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#149397 Jan 22, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm gonna get to work right away on a houseboat to sail to England!
I think it needs an indoor pool.
What do you think?
I think they're so romantic!

Why not, let's have an indoor AQUARIUM, too!!!

I can picture Noah's ark, lol.

Don't come yet, let the snow clear, it might get stuck on the ice or something.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#149398 Jan 22, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
More on the line the application of it.
Tell me, does a proton have a definite "edge" to it? Is it like a ball bearing?
No.
Or is it graduated "fields" of some sort?
Protons are the quantum of the proton field, just like photons are the quanta of the electro-magnetic field.
Which of course occupy space.
The word 'occupy' is strange here. Because of the Pauli exclusion principle, two protons cannot be in the same state at the same time. This produces a type of repulsive force. But, for example, photons do not obey the exclusion principle. Both types of field have values at each point of space, but they don't necessarily exclude other fields from being in the same location.
Just how hard are these things you think you observe?
Hardness is a macroscopic effect, not a microscopic one.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#149399 Jan 22, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
If My knives had the edge of protons, a sharpness would divide.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =4heiZhvV6aAXX
Your wit will suffice for spreading the peanut butter.

Glass is sharp stuff. You can get down to one molecule.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#149400 Jan 22, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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No.
<quoted text>
Protons are the quantum of the proton field, just like photons are the quanta of the electro-magnetic field.
<quoted text>
The word 'occupy' is strange here. Because of the Pauli exclusion principle, two protons cannot be in the same state at the same time. This produces a type of repulsive force. But, for example, photons do not obey the exclusion principle. Both types of field have values at each point of space, but they don't necessarily exclude other fields from being in the same location.
<quoted text>
Hardness is a macroscopic effect, not a microscopic one.
So these particles are not hard thingies? Kinda fuzzy and more concentrated in the middle? Perhaps unobservable because of the observation process? Or just deduced from math schemes?

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#149401 Jan 22, 2013
Clementia wrote:
I think they're so romantic!
Why not, let's have an indoor AQUARIUM, too!!!
I can picture Noah's ark, lol.
Don't come yet, let the snow clear, it might get stuck on the ice or something.
I think we should have clown fish.

What do you want? How about a seahorse?

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#149402 Jan 22, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Your wit will suffice for spreading the peanut butter.
Glass is sharp stuff. You can get down to one molecule.
One micron, but not one mole are you nuts? N/M we already know the answer.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#149403 Jan 22, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Yes he was praying and thanking god for the day out loud for the cancer patient.
As usual you like a total retard saw someone do something bad and blindly wailed he must have been an atheist. It's just so childish daffy no wonder people think you are a 12 year old. Mentally you never progressed.
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I’m touched, Lance prayed out loud. Just what did he say in this prayer since you know so much about it? Let me guess,“Dear Lord, thank you for this day and don’t let me get caught cheating.”

I see similarities in Lance that I see in many other Atheist. As I stated before narcissism and of course this double standard many Atheist live by.

By the way the word “retard” is a bit outdated. It went out of the mainstream circulation about 30 years ago. But it’s ok that you remain outdated because it tells us something about you.

I prefer you the way you are because you represent the worst in Atheist and I want people see the sarcasm, cynicism, and scornful comments. You are doing a good job pushing people away from Atheism. Keep up the good work.

Since: Oct 12

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#149404 Jan 22, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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I think we should have clown fish.
What do you want? How about a seahorse?
U mean Nemo?

Oh, can i have Dory? please???? She can teach us whale!

Seahorses are amazing! The man raises the kids doesn't he? U men should learn something!!

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