Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#149131 Jan 21, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Secular morality is by far superior to biblical morality. It was secular morality that did away with slavery, incest and child molesting all of these were common place in biblical morality.
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Have you even read the Bible?

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#149132 Jan 21, 2013
We may be one nation, although even that can be disputed, as it has been in Colin Woodard's 2011 book "American Nations: A History of the Eleven Rival Regional Cultures of North America".
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Just a heads up. North America is not a nation.
Woodard doesn't claim that North America is a nation. Read the title of his work again.

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But there is as yet no evidence that any of us are under a "god".
RiversideRedneck wrote:
America (the nation) is under God.
There is as yet no evidence to support that claim.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#149133 Jan 21, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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But there is a reason for this.
The bible explains it.
They want to deny God.
And because only God accounts for absolutes, they are reduced to the absurd conclusion that they have to deny absolutes, even whilst they carry on using those absolutes, which they are denying.
So to be "right" in their rejection of God, they have to abandon logic, morality, uniformity and a sense of person.
And then they tell everyone else they are lacking in intelligence if they do not do the same...

I don't deny god, and if he shows up...he can have my place in line.

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#149134 Jan 21, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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I don't deny god, and if he shows up...he can have my place in line.
I do not quite understand the point you are making?

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#149135 Jan 21, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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I do not quite understand the point you are making?

As soon as god shows up IS the point. Until then there's nothing to deny.

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#149136 Jan 21, 2013
Hmmm link free made up data from a Christhole who worships a retarded god.

Dismissed and rightfully so.
digitaldan wrote:
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According to a Barna Group survey (2011), Atheism is the Tea Party of fringe cults, predominantly white, male and bigoted.

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#149137 Jan 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yes, Clementine... That was the joke.
I can switch to dirty jokes if you like :)
Redneck, look u said it!

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#149138 Jan 21, 2013
Have you retard? I doubt other than your preacher approved passages.
mtimber wrote:
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Have you even read the Bible?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#149139 Jan 21, 2013
You're a trailer trash reject under Jesus' thumb lol!

Pitiful sheep kneeling to a retarded zombie Christ!
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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And? We are one nation under God.

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#149140 Jan 21, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Funny that digitaldan "forgot" to quote the next line:
"The eminent Kant scholar Lewis Beck used to say that anyone who could believe in God could believe in anything."
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One could say the same of science. Whosoever accepts science as the only begetter of truth will believe whatever science says.

Science contends that we exist as material beings in a material world. Religions and philosophy say we are much more than that. We are spirit made flesh. We are spiritual beings expressing as humans in physical reality.

“Ditat Deus”

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#149141 Jan 21, 2013
Pat wrote:
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Some dishonest pandering politicians put god in the pledge and all it proves is their lack of moral sense and lack of appreciation for the separation of church and state which this country so clearly stands for. Is your imaginary god more believable for you now with god in the pledge? LOL
"Under God" goes back to Abraham Lincoln, nitwit.

I can't answer your last question because I don't have an imaginary god.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#149143 Jan 21, 2013
Wrathbone wrote:
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One could say the same of science. Whosoever accepts science as the only begetter of truth will believe whatever science says.
Science contends that we exist as material beings in a material world. Religions and philosophy say we are much more than that. We are spirit made flesh. We are spiritual beings expressing as humans in physical reality.
Voodoo priests say they can do some crazy stuff too.
But we all know that religious stuff is just superstition and myth.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#149144 Jan 21, 2013
Wrathbone wrote:
Whosoever accepts science as the only begetter of truth will believe whatever science says.
I don't see *anything* as a "begetter of truth" (at least not about the real world), including science. I see science as a tool useful for making the Universe more understandable and for making predictions of what we will observe in the future.

"Truth" exists in the realms of logic and math, but not in the real world.
Wrathbone wrote:
Science contends that we exist as material beings in a material world.
Which we appear to be, unless you've got evidence to the contrary.
Wrathbone wrote:
Religions and philosophy say we are much more than that.
Religion may say that, but philosophy, as a whole, does not say that.

But there is no evidence that we are "more than that" (let alone "much more than that").

“Ditat Deus”

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#149145 Jan 21, 2013
Drew Smith wrote:
We may be one nation, although even that can be disputed, as it has been in Colin Woodard's 2011 book "American Nations: A History of the Eleven Rival Regional Cultures of North America".

Woodard doesn't claim that North America is a nation. Read the title of his work again.
I was commenting not on the book, but on your comment. You said "we may be one nation that can be disputed" & used a book about North America support your claim.

That's why I reminded you that North America isn't a nation.
There is as yet no evidence to support that claim.
Says you.

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#149146 Jan 21, 2013
Adam wrote:
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What are you saying? Science is wrong, and religion right? Please explain. Cause if you are looking for absurdities try the so called holy books.
Science is fooled by its own assumptions. It likes to think it deals with predictable action. It perceives such a small amount of data, however, in such a limited area, that the great inner unpredictability of any molecule, atom or wave is not apparent. Science only perceives what is predicitable within our own particular physical system, and nothing more.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#149147 Jan 21, 2013
Prove it.
Wrathbone wrote:
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We are spirit made flesh.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#149148 Jan 21, 2013
What examples of unpredictability do you have?
Wrathbone wrote:
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Science only perceives what is predicitable within our own particular physical system, and nothing more.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#149149 Jan 21, 2013
Wrathbone wrote:
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Science is fooled by its own assumptions. It likes to think it deals with predictable action. It perceives such a small amount of data, however, in such a limited area, that the great inner unpredictability of any molecule, atom or wave is not apparent. Science only perceives what is predicitable within our own particular physical system, and nothing more.

I take it by saying "our own particular physical system" you mean the physical reality. If you want to deal with alternate reality, or fantasy you can, but don't expect us to take you seriously.
There is nothing beyond the physical reality, but superstitious nonsense.

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#149150 Jan 21, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Voodoo priests say they can do some crazy stuff too.
But we all know that religious stuff is just superstition and myth.
That crazy stuff works when both practioner and patient believe that it will. Our environment is the physical picture of our thoughts, emotions and beliefs made visible.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#149151 Jan 21, 2013
Define, in this context, "works".
Do amputee limbs regrow with voodoo?
Wrathbone wrote:
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That crazy stuff works when both practioner and patient believe that it will.

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