Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#149069 Jan 20, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>really?

and yet its
the conservatives, not the liberals, who want to dictate who can marry who. Conservatives want to be able to tell complete strangers who they can marry.
its the conservatives, not the liberals, who want to decide what medical procedures a woman can have.
its the conservatives, not the liberals, who want to decide what medications a woman can use.
its the conservatives, not the liberals, who want to decide what you can smoke and what you can't.
its the conservatives, not the liberals, who want to decide what religious dogma, symbology and prayers are acceptable in public and gov't buildings and land

when it comes to having gov't intrude on the private lives of adult U.S. citizens, I'd have to say the conservatives who are forcing others to live their lives according to conservative ideals
Isn't it nice that our whole government is voted into office by the majority?
So we wind up with a government for the people and by the people.

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#149070 Jan 20, 2013
UiidotRaceMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>But more died in religion/wars on worldwide scale! Better read history on world wars and Religions, are interrelated.
LMAO. You really said this? LOL

Jack Perry has presented one such list of non-religious wars, as follows:

1.) The Seven Years’ War (Britain & France)
2.)The American Revolution
3.)The French Revolution
4.)The Napoleonic Wars (France & Europe)
5.)The Revolutions in the Americas
6.)The Wars to create and preserve the British Empire (Boer War, Irish Revolution, and the Great Game with Russia would all be examples)
7.)The American Civil War
8.)The Crimean War
9.)The Spanish-American War
10.)The Great War, The War to End All Wars, or World War I (whatever you want to call it)
11.)The Italian invasion of Ethiopia
12.)The Spanish Civil War
13.)Stalin’s invasions of Finland, the Baltic states, and Poland
14.)World War II
15.)The Chinese Revolution
16.)The Cold War, including but not limited to the Korean War, the Cuban Missile Crisis, the Vietnam War, the American intervention in Grenada, and the Soviet campaign in Afghanistan
17.)The Cultural Revolution in China (If you don’t want to call this a war I’ll concede it)
18.)Pol Pot’s Khmer Rouge Revolution
19.)The Falklands War
20.)The Persian Gulf War between Iran & Iraq
21.)The Persian Gulf War between the United Nations and Iraq

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#149071 Jan 20, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>I'm sorry satan exists in YOUR mind, not mine.
Also if there is evil, it would be you.
If there was any truth to your statement you would not have said or even thought of the schools that allow students to pray to Satan over the PA system. Obviously Satan does exist in your mind. You have proven this much.

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#149072 Jan 20, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>You're the dolt that can't see that god and the devil is your religion. Not mine, you believe in them, they are you.
They are who you are, not me. I don't believe in your myths, and I don't believe you.
"Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>How do you know god isn't Satan? Have you got a picture of them together? They might be the same thing."

Really sure about this?
It's simply ludicrous you know.
Statements like this show off your empty noggin.

Again what a Dolt! LOL

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#149073 Jan 20, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
If there was any truth to your statement you would not have said or even thought of the schools that allow students to pray to Satan over the PA system. Obviously Satan does exist in your mind. You have proven this much.
In fact I did not bring that up, or even know of it. But it is also a fact that those who believe in god believe there's a devil. Or the other way around, but I don't believe either of you has any sense.
ASIA AFRO LATIN MID EAST

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#149074 Jan 20, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
LMAO. You really said this? LOL
n the United Nations and Iraq
US wars on Islam!

War Religion 1 Religion 2 Religion 3 Religion 4
Albigensian Crusade Christian (Catholic) Christian (Cathar)
Almohad Conquest of Muslim Spain Islam Christian
Anglo-Scottish War (15591560) Christian (Protestant) Christian (Catholic)
Arab Conquest of Carthage Islam Christian (Catholic)
Aragonese-Castilian War
Aragonese-French War (12091213)
First Bearnese Revolt
Second Bearnese Revolt
Third Bearnese Revolt
First Bishops War
Second Bishops War
Raids of the Black Hundreds
Bohemian Civil War (14651471)
Bohemian Palatine War
War in Bosnia
Brabant Revolution
Byzantine-Muslim War (633642) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (645656) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (688679) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (698718) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (739) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (741752) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (778783) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (797798) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (803809) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (830841) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (851863) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (871885) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (960976) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (995999) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Camisards Rebellion
Castilian Conquest of Toledo
Charlemagnes Invasion of Northern Spain
Charlemagnes War against the Saxons Christian Pagan
Counts War
Covenanters Rebellion (1666)
Covenanters Rebellion (1679)
Covenanters Rebellion (1685)
Crimean War
First Crusade
Second Crusade
Third Crusade
Fourth Crusade
Fifth Crusade
Sixth Crusade
Seventh Crusade
Eighth Crusade
Ninth Crusade
Crusader-Turkish Wars (11001146)
Crusader-Turkish Wars (12721291)
Danish-Estonian War
German Civil War (10771106)
Ghost Dance Uprising
Siege of Granada
First Iconoclastic War
Second Iconoclastic War
India-Pakistan Partition War
Irish Tithe War
Javanese invasion of Malacca
Great Java War
Kappel Wars
Khurramites Revolt
Lebanese Civil War
Wars of the Lombard League
Luccan-Florentine War
Luccan-Florentine War
Holy Wars of the Mad Mullah
Marylands Religious War
Mecca-Medina War
Mexican Insurrections
War of the Monks
Mountain Meadows Massacre
Revolt of Muqanna
Crusade of Nicopolis
Padri War
Paulician War
Persian Civil War (15001503)
Portuguese-Moroccan War (14581471)
Portuguese-Moroccan War (1578)
Portuguese-Omani Wars in East Africa
Rajput Rebellion against Aurangzeb
Revolt in Ravenna
First War of Religion
Second War of Religion
Third War of Religion
Fourth War of Religion
Fifth War of Religion
Sixth War of Religion
Eighth War of Religion
Ninth War of Religion
Roman-Persian War (421422)
Roman-Persian War (441)
Russo Turkish War (18771878)
First Sacred War
Second Sacred War
Third Sacred War
Saladins Holy War
Schmalkaldic War
Scottish Uprising against Mary of Guise
Serbo-Turkish War
Shimabara Revolt
War of the Sonderbund
Spanish Christian-Muslim War (912928)
Spanish Christian-Muslim War (977997)
Spanish Christian-Muslim War (10011031)
Spanish Christian-Muslim War (11721212)
Spanish Christian-Muslim War (12301248)
Spanish Christian-Muslim War (14811492)
Spanish Conquests in North Africa
Swedish War
Thirty Years War
Transylvania-Hapsburg War
Tukulor-French War
Turko-Persian Wars
United States War on Terror
Vellore Mutiny
Vjayanagar Wars
First Villmergen War
Second Villmergen War
Visigothic-Frankish War
Help A
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#149075 Jan 20, 2013
MBWAHHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHHA HUH! You warring religious freaks!

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#149076 Jan 20, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
"Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>How do you know god isn't Satan? Have you got a picture of them together? They might be the same thing."
Really sure about this?
It's simply ludicrous you know.
Statements like this show off your empty noggin.
Again what a Dolt! LOL
They are opposite sides of yourself, one and the same.
They are your book of reverence , the bible.

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#149077 Jan 20, 2013
ASIA AFRO LATIN MID EAST wrote:
<quoted text>US wars on Islam!

War Religion 1 Religion 2 Religion 3 Religion 4
Albigensian Crusade Christian (Catholic) Christian (Cathar)
Almohad Conquest of Muslim Spain Islam Christian
Anglo-Scottish War (1559–1560) Christian (Protestant) Christian (Catholic)
Arab Conquest of Carthage Islam Christian (Catholic)
Aragonese-Castilian War
Aragonese-French War (1209–1213)
First Bearnese Revolt
Second Bearnese Revolt
Third Bearnese Revolt
First Bishop’s War
Second Bishop’s War
Raids of the Black Hundreds
Bohemian Civil War (1465–1471)
Bohemian Palatine War
War in Bosnia
Brabant Revolution
Byzantine-Muslim War (633–642) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (645–656) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (688–679) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (698–718) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (739) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (741–752) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (778–783) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (797–798) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (803–809) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (830–841) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (851–863) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (871–885) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (960–976) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (995–999) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Camisards’ Rebellion
Castilian Conquest of Toledo
Charlemagne’s Invasion of Northern Spain
Charlemagne’s War against the Saxons Christian Pagan
Count’s War
Covenanters’ Rebellion (1666)
Covenanters’ Rebellion (1679)
Covenanters’ Rebellion (1685)
Crimean War
First Crusade
Second Crusade
Third Crusade
Fourth Crusade
Fifth Crusade
Sixth Crusade
Seventh Crusade
Eighth Crusade
Ninth Crusade
Crusader-Turkish Wars (1100–1146)
Crusader-Turkish Wars (1272–1291)
Danish-Estonian War
German Civil War (1077–1106)
Ghost Dance Uprising
Siege of Granada
First Iconoclastic War
Second Iconoclastic War
India-Pakistan Partition War
Irish Tithe War
Javanese invasion of Malacca
Great Java War
Kappel Wars
Khurramite’s Revolt
Lebanese Civil War
Wars of the Lombard League
Luccan-Florentine War
Luccan-Florentine War
Holy Wars of the Mad Mullah
Maryland’s Religious War
Mecca-Medina War
Mexican Insurrections
War of the Monks
Mountain Meadows Massacre
Revolt of Muqanna
Crusade of Nicopolis
Padri War
Paulician War
Persian Civil War (1500–1503)
Portuguese-Moroccan War (1458–1471)
Portuguese-Moroccan War (1578)
Portuguese-Omani Wars in East Africa
Rajput Rebellion against Aurangzeb
Revolt in Ravenna
First War of Religion
Second War of Religion
Third War of Religion
Fourth War of Religion
Fifth War of Religion
Sixth War of Religion
Eighth War of Religion
Ninth War of Religion
Roman-Persian War (421–422)
Roman-Persian War (441)
Russo Turkish War (1877–1878)
First Sacred War
Second Sacred War
Third Sacred War
Saladin’s Holy War
Schmalkaldic War
Scottish Uprising against Mary of Guise
Serbo-Turkish War
Shimabara Revolt
War of the Sonderbund
Spanish Christian-Muslim War (912–928)
Spanish Christian-Muslim War (977–997)
Spanish Christian-Muslim War (1001–1031)
Spanish Christian-Muslim War (1172–1212)
Spanish Christian-Muslim War (1230–1248)
Spanish Christian-Muslim War (1481–1492)
Spanish Conquests in North Africa
Swedish War
Thirty Years’ War
Transylvania-Hapsburg War
Tukulor-French War
Turko-Persian Wars
United States War on Terror
Vellore Mutiny
Vjayanagar Wars
First Villmergen War
Second Villmergen War
Visigothic-Frankish War
Help · A
Pure nonsense.
The fact is that many many more have died in wars with no religious goals then have died in religious wars. This is a proven fact.

Give it a break you don't know what you're talking about.

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#149078 Jan 20, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>They are opposite sides of yourself, one and the same.
They are your book of reverence , the bible.
"Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>How do you know god isn't Satan? Have you got a picture of them together? They might be the same thing."

"one and the same. "

Ok so now you have cemented yourself as completely ignorant of the Christian faith.

Good day.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#149079 Jan 20, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
"Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>How do you know god isn't Satan? Have you got a picture of them together? They might be the same thing."
"one and the same. "
Ok so now you have cemented yourself as completely ignorant of the Christian faith.
Good day.
Or is it night? I'm afraid it is you who do not know, and are completely ignorant. Trust me when I tell you when you open your book of belief, you will find them both in it's bag of tricks. God and the Devil are in the book you learned and believe.
Without one there is no other, the both of them in your mind.

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#149080 Jan 20, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Pure nonsense.
The fact is that many many more have died in wars with no religious goals then have died in religious wars. This is a proven fact.
Give it a break you don't know what you're talking about.
What is nonsense?

The post he was responding to was the wars...not the deaths. But that is irrelevant... even 1 war over who has the right god is too many... or 1 death. Stop making excuses for hate. You can stick with your belief without excusing violence to defend your belief system....

If atheists got together to kill Muslims and Christians... i would not defend my fellow non believers. That would be sick.

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#149081 Jan 20, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>Or is it night? I'm afraid it is you who do not know, and are completely ignorant. Trust me when I tell you when you open your book of belief, you will find them both in it's bag of tricks. God and the Devil are in the book you learned and believe.
Without one there is no other, the both of them in your mind.
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>How do you know god isn't Satan? Have you got a picture of them together? They might be the same thing."

"one and the same. "

Ok so now you have cemented yourself as completely ignorant of the Christian faith.

"Trust me"

Not in a million years.

Good day.
Serah

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#149082 Jan 20, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
I totally agree.
Here a post from another thread that I so do enjoy.
"Atheist sure have a hard time keeping your beliefs straight.
Yet alone just the definition of the word atheist.
Merriam - Webster
athe·ist\ˈā-thē-ist\
noun
: one who believes that there is no deity
"who believes". That's a positive assertion. Seeing as there is no proof of your belief It's FAITH.
Faith:
"Synonyms: devotion, piety, religion"
Ah yes Atheism is a Religion.
Have a nice day and don't forget to go to church.
Posted else where by derek4
From: The Columbus Dispatch:
February 4, 2011
Church, without God
“Stan Bradley likes Bible stories, admires Martin Luther and uses expressions such as 'heavens, no.'
The Lithopolis man is president of a local congregation and rarely misses a Sunday service. Occasionally, he goes to his wife's church instead.
For these and other reasons, Bradley considers himself religious.”
He is also an atheist.
continued:
“Like Bradley, some atheists participate in organized religion for its social and psychological benefits.”
continued:
“Churches are great places to find friends, support and youth education, so nonbelievers and believers alike join congregations to fill those needs, he said.
He has spoken to elderly and sick people who can no longer go to church and they say they most miss the feeling of community.
Recent research from Harvard University and the University of Wisconsin backs him up. It found that religious people tend to be happier than nonreligious people, not because of belief but because of the friendships found at church.”
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/faith...
“religious people tend to be happier than nonreligious people”[I have said this all along, and my posts are still on the board to confirm it. Now you hear it straight from the atheist, lol.]"
Ahhh ~ straight from the Atheists mouth!!

Thanks for sharing :)
Serah

Australia

#149083 Jan 20, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Serah liberty is a nut case pay him no heed.
Sad to say I think you might be right.....:(

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#149084 Jan 20, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>How do you know god isn't Satan? Have you got a picture of them together? They might be the same thing."
"one and the same. "
Ok so now you have cemented yourself as completely ignorant of the Christian faith.
"Trust me"
Not in a million years.
Good day.
At this point, an observer is left in confusion.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#149085 Jan 20, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Prove it!
<quoted text>
Dudeism is more real because there isn't a "god" requirement. So, there.:P

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#149086 Jan 20, 2013
So Lance did something bad.... He must be an atheist!:sigh: Get a clue retard! The closest he has ever come to that is saying he had a distrust of organized religion because of corruption. He has never claimed to be a non believer in god though and has even went in cancer hope tours with various church people and held hands wiping tears and sharing/ leading in prayer with cancer victims.

Get a grip retard! It's rather childish that you want to dun anyone who has done something bad an atheist.
Eagle12 wrote:
{Lance Edward Armstrong (born 18 September 1971) is an American professional road racing cyclist, who won the Tour de France a record-breaking seven consecutive years, from 1999 to 2005,
I think Lance could have a great future ahead of him but its not in sports but in Jesus Christ's @sshole.

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#149087 Jan 20, 2013
Isn't satan the evil god in the bible? I guess you have never read the bible.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, there's a problem with that.
America is one nation under God, not Satan....

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#149088 Jan 20, 2013
Or you could get back on your medication eh schizo?
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe TMail him if you need to get so personal with your accusations and racist attacks!! What did you say to Liberal about him getting on his high horse about the postings between you and Redneck?? I'll just carry on reading and see what I find, hey?

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