Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Woah... I don't need permission to fart.
:)
A priest, a rabbi & a Sikh walk into a bar.
The bartender said "Is this some kind of joke?"
hahaha....
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uIDIOTracemakeworldpeace wrote:
<quoted text>Are there any passage(s) in The Christian Bible you read is dirty...?
Are Christian's more moral and Superior in Intelligence over other races, or even Atheists, or over other religions?
Why did you pick Christian over other religions or beliefs...?
It is within me I guess ~ however, Christianity is not a Religion, more like a Faith and a following of Christ :)

I am twice Christened however, have no Church or Religion I call my own...!
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It was pretty much the only one available to her growing up.
The brainwashing is complete in her.
Sereh intellectually challenged and afraid to debate, and hypocrite Xtain, afraid she be fathomed, afraid of light, afraid she can't haddle the truth...

BWHHAHAHHHAHHAAAA She Afraid of me and my inquistion, Salem with hunt... BWHAHHAHAAAAAAAa Christian religion talks about how start Fire, drink Blood to scarifice, wash it with blood for sin... sound violent in nature . WBHAHAHHHAHAa Sereh afraid to even notice my previous post addressed to her, and she runs away... Yep mentally challenged! BQHHAHAHHAAAa

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<quoted text>Sorry you don't like all the meanings of Faith, but you have confident belief in something, whereas mine lies with my Creator, yours lies with science and their ideas and things. I have Faith in our Historians and Scribes, although I do believe that man(kind) has influenced some of the writings, so I read them with love in my heart, and care in my eyes. I care for the Father who gave us life to the point where I would like to make Him happy; and am happy with that path. You have Faith there is no need for Faith, thinking that your belief is only called a belief, but as you can see confident belief does equal something other than 2 words:)

Faith is ......

***faith - definition of faith by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and ...
www.thefreedictionary.com/faith
Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing. 2. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence****
I totally agree.
Here a post from another thread that I so do enjoy.

"Atheist sure have a hard time keeping your beliefs straight.
Yet alone just the definition of the word atheist.

Merriam - Webster

athe·ist\ˈā-thē-ist\
noun
: one who believes that there is no deity

"who believes". That's a positive assertion. Seeing as there is no proof of your belief It's FAITH.

Faith:
"Synonyms: devotion, piety, religion"

Ah yes Atheism is a Religion.

Have a nice day and don't forget to go to church.

Posted else where by derek4

From: The Columbus Dispatch:

February 4, 2011

Church, without God

“Stan Bradley likes Bible stories, admires Martin Luther and uses expressions such as 'heavens, no.'

The Lithopolis man is president of a local congregation and rarely misses a Sunday service. Occasionally, he goes to his wife's church instead.

For these and other reasons, Bradley considers himself religious.”

He is also an atheist.

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“Like Bradley, some atheists participate in organized religion for its social and psychological benefits.”

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“Churches are great places to find friends, support and youth education, so nonbelievers and believers alike join congregations to fill those needs, he said.

He has spoken to elderly and sick people who can no longer go to church and they say they most miss the feeling of community.

Recent research from Harvard University and the University of Wisconsin backs him up. It found that religious people tend to be happier than nonreligious people, not because of belief but because of the friendships found at church.”

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/faith...

“religious people tend to be happier than nonreligious people”[I have said this all along, and my posts are still on the board to confirm it. Now you hear it straight from the atheist, lol.]"
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Jan 20, 2013
 
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@Serah....look, sweetheart, when me and Redneck are 'fighting', don't get involved! U know, he gave me the shirt off his back when i spilt choco(?) on mine and I've given him permission to fart! U see, we have this....'connection' that u wouldn't understand. I like pullin' his leg, so get off your high horse and sit down and have some butter milk!!
Tell her i'm right, Redneck! Tell her, cowboy!!
And yh that was the sikh and pope joke, we were told it in the gurudwara, i thought it was funny, too.
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It's on the prove a God thread, one was about black people and the other was when he called Muslims towel-heads and i said to him i'm a sikh, we wear turbans more than Muslims do, but he told me not to get offended.
I'll try and find the page number, liberty guy!:-)
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Nope ~ nothing to your mate Liberty Guy... no high horse, no reference to farting, no nothing between you and Redneck at all in fact, and you were going to get Liberty Guy the link so he could dob on Redneck. Cheers, I am getting to know you :)
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post above is from Uidiotracemakeworldpeace, he told me to write it, as he has problem with his Computer. :)

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Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry you are so rude you don't even comprehend your own rudeness, and sorry you do not see the cruelty in your words. Oh, I can go back and find those postings, have no fear, too bad you don't know enough regret to understand you should feel remorse for writing them!!
Serah liberty is a nut case pay him no heed.

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Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>really?

and yet its
the conservatives, not the liberals, who want to dictate who can marry who. Conservatives want to be able to tell complete strangers who they can marry.
its the conservatives, not the liberals, who want to decide what medical procedures a woman can have.
its the conservatives, not the liberals, who want to decide what medications a woman can use.
its the conservatives, not the liberals, who want to decide what you can smoke and what you can't.
its the conservatives, not the liberals, who want to decide what religious dogma, symbology and prayers are acceptable in public and gov't buildings and land

when it comes to having gov't intrude on the private lives of adult U.S. citizens, I'd have to say the conservatives who are forcing others to live their lives according to conservative ideals
Isn't it nice that our whole government is voted into office by the majority?
So we wind up with a government for the people and by the people.

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<quoted text>But more died in religion/wars on worldwide scale! Better read history on world wars and Religions, are interrelated.
LMAO. You really said this? LOL

Jack Perry has presented one such list of non-religious wars, as follows:

1.) The Seven Years’ War (Britain & France)
2.)The American Revolution
3.)The French Revolution
4.)The Napoleonic Wars (France & Europe)
5.)The Revolutions in the Americas
6.)The Wars to create and preserve the British Empire (Boer War, Irish Revolution, and the Great Game with Russia would all be examples)
7.)The American Civil War
8.)The Crimean War
9.)The Spanish-American War
10.)The Great War, The War to End All Wars, or World War I (whatever you want to call it)
11.)The Italian invasion of Ethiopia
12.)The Spanish Civil War
13.)Stalin’s invasions of Finland, the Baltic states, and Poland
14.)World War II
15.)The Chinese Revolution
16.)The Cold War, including but not limited to the Korean War, the Cuban Missile Crisis, the Vietnam War, the American intervention in Grenada, and the Soviet campaign in Afghanistan
17.)The Cultural Revolution in China (If you don’t want to call this a war I’ll concede it)
18.)Pol Pot’s Khmer Rouge Revolution
19.)The Falklands War
20.)The Persian Gulf War between Iran & Iraq
21.)The Persian Gulf War between the United Nations and Iraq

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Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>I'm sorry satan exists in YOUR mind, not mine.
Also if there is evil, it would be you.
If there was any truth to your statement you would not have said or even thought of the schools that allow students to pray to Satan over the PA system. Obviously Satan does exist in your mind. You have proven this much.

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Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>You're the dolt that can't see that god and the devil is your religion. Not mine, you believe in them, they are you.
They are who you are, not me. I don't believe in your myths, and I don't believe you.
"Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>How do you know god isn't Satan? Have you got a picture of them together? They might be the same thing."

Really sure about this?
It's simply ludicrous you know.
Statements like this show off your empty noggin.

Again what a Dolt! LOL

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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Langoliers wrote:
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If there was any truth to your statement you would not have said or even thought of the schools that allow students to pray to Satan over the PA system. Obviously Satan does exist in your mind. You have proven this much.
In fact I did not bring that up, or even know of it. But it is also a fact that those who believe in god believe there's a devil. Or the other way around, but I don't believe either of you has any sense.
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Langoliers wrote:
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LMAO. You really said this? LOL
n the United Nations and Iraq
US wars on Islam!

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Albigensian Crusade Christian (Catholic) Christian (Cathar)
Almohad Conquest of Muslim Spain Islam Christian
Anglo-Scottish War (15591560) Christian (Protestant) Christian (Catholic)
Arab Conquest of Carthage Islam Christian (Catholic)
Aragonese-Castilian War
Aragonese-French War (12091213)
First Bearnese Revolt
Second Bearnese Revolt
Third Bearnese Revolt
First Bishops War
Second Bishops War
Raids of the Black Hundreds
Bohemian Civil War (14651471)
Bohemian Palatine War
War in Bosnia
Brabant Revolution
Byzantine-Muslim War (633642) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (645656) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (688679) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (698718) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (739) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (741752) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
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Byzantine-Muslim War (830841) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
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Byzantine-Muslim War (871885) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (960976) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (995999) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Camisards Rebellion
Castilian Conquest of Toledo
Charlemagnes Invasion of Northern Spain
Charlemagnes War against the Saxons Christian Pagan
Counts War
Covenanters Rebellion (1666)
Covenanters Rebellion (1679)
Covenanters Rebellion (1685)
Crimean War
First Crusade
Second Crusade
Third Crusade
Fourth Crusade
Fifth Crusade
Sixth Crusade
Seventh Crusade
Eighth Crusade
Ninth Crusade
Crusader-Turkish Wars (11001146)
Crusader-Turkish Wars (12721291)
Danish-Estonian War
German Civil War (10771106)
Ghost Dance Uprising
Siege of Granada
First Iconoclastic War
Second Iconoclastic War
India-Pakistan Partition War
Irish Tithe War
Javanese invasion of Malacca
Great Java War
Kappel Wars
Khurramites Revolt
Lebanese Civil War
Wars of the Lombard League
Luccan-Florentine War
Luccan-Florentine War
Holy Wars of the Mad Mullah
Marylands Religious War
Mecca-Medina War
Mexican Insurrections
War of the Monks
Mountain Meadows Massacre
Revolt of Muqanna
Crusade of Nicopolis
Padri War
Paulician War
Persian Civil War (15001503)
Portuguese-Moroccan War (14581471)
Portuguese-Moroccan War (1578)
Portuguese-Omani Wars in East Africa
Rajput Rebellion against Aurangzeb
Revolt in Ravenna
First War of Religion
Second War of Religion
Third War of Religion
Fourth War of Religion
Fifth War of Religion
Sixth War of Religion
Eighth War of Religion
Ninth War of Religion
Roman-Persian War (421422)
Roman-Persian War (441)
Russo Turkish War (18771878)
First Sacred War
Second Sacred War
Third Sacred War
Saladins Holy War
Schmalkaldic War
Scottish Uprising against Mary of Guise
Serbo-Turkish War
Shimabara Revolt
War of the Sonderbund
Spanish Christian-Muslim War (912928)
Spanish Christian-Muslim War (977997)
Spanish Christian-Muslim War (10011031)
Spanish Christian-Muslim War (11721212)
Spanish Christian-Muslim War (12301248)
Spanish Christian-Muslim War (14811492)
Spanish Conquests in North Africa
Swedish War
Thirty Years War
Transylvania-Hapsburg War
Tukulor-French War
Turko-Persian Wars
United States War on Terror
Vellore Mutiny
Vjayanagar Wars
First Villmergen War
Second Villmergen War
Visigothic-Frankish War
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MBWAHHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHHA HUH! You warring religious freaks!

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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Langoliers wrote:
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"Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>How do you know god isn't Satan? Have you got a picture of them together? They might be the same thing."
Really sure about this?
It's simply ludicrous you know.
Statements like this show off your empty noggin.
Again what a Dolt! LOL
They are opposite sides of yourself, one and the same.
They are your book of reverence , the bible.

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ASIA AFRO LATIN MID EAST wrote:
<quoted text>US wars on Islam!

War Religion 1 Religion 2 Religion 3 Religion 4
Albigensian Crusade Christian (Catholic) Christian (Cathar)
Almohad Conquest of Muslim Spain Islam Christian
Anglo-Scottish War (1559–1560) Christian (Protestant) Christian (Catholic)
Arab Conquest of Carthage Islam Christian (Catholic)
Aragonese-Castilian War
Aragonese-French War (1209–1213)
First Bearnese Revolt
Second Bearnese Revolt
Third Bearnese Revolt
First Bishop’s War
Second Bishop’s War
Raids of the Black Hundreds
Bohemian Civil War (1465–1471)
Bohemian Palatine War
War in Bosnia
Brabant Revolution
Byzantine-Muslim War (633–642) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (645–656) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (688–679) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (698–718) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (739) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (741–752) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (778–783) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (797–798) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (803–809) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (830–841) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (851–863) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (871–885) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (960–976) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Byzantine-Muslim War (995–999) Islam Christian (Orthodox)
Camisards’ Rebellion
Castilian Conquest of Toledo
Charlemagne’s Invasion of Northern Spain
Charlemagne’s War against the Saxons Christian Pagan
Count’s War
Covenanters’ Rebellion (1666)
Covenanters’ Rebellion (1679)
Covenanters’ Rebellion (1685)
Crimean War
First Crusade
Second Crusade
Third Crusade
Fourth Crusade
Fifth Crusade
Sixth Crusade
Seventh Crusade
Eighth Crusade
Ninth Crusade
Crusader-Turkish Wars (1100–1146)
Crusader-Turkish Wars (1272–1291)
Danish-Estonian War
German Civil War (1077–1106)
Ghost Dance Uprising
Siege of Granada
First Iconoclastic War
Second Iconoclastic War
India-Pakistan Partition War
Irish Tithe War
Javanese invasion of Malacca
Great Java War
Kappel Wars
Khurramite’s Revolt
Lebanese Civil War
Wars of the Lombard League
Luccan-Florentine War
Luccan-Florentine War
Holy Wars of the Mad Mullah
Maryland’s Religious War
Mecca-Medina War
Mexican Insurrections
War of the Monks
Mountain Meadows Massacre
Revolt of Muqanna
Crusade of Nicopolis
Padri War
Paulician War
Persian Civil War (1500–1503)
Portuguese-Moroccan War (1458–1471)
Portuguese-Moroccan War (1578)
Portuguese-Omani Wars in East Africa
Rajput Rebellion against Aurangzeb
Revolt in Ravenna
First War of Religion
Second War of Religion
Third War of Religion
Fourth War of Religion
Fifth War of Religion
Sixth War of Religion
Eighth War of Religion
Ninth War of Religion
Roman-Persian War (421–422)
Roman-Persian War (441)
Russo Turkish War (1877–1878)
First Sacred War
Second Sacred War
Third Sacred War
Saladin’s Holy War
Schmalkaldic War
Scottish Uprising against Mary of Guise
Serbo-Turkish War
Shimabara Revolt
War of the Sonderbund
Spanish Christian-Muslim War (912–928)
Spanish Christian-Muslim War (977–997)
Spanish Christian-Muslim War (1001–1031)
Spanish Christian-Muslim War (1172–1212)
Spanish Christian-Muslim War (1230–1248)
Spanish Christian-Muslim War (1481–1492)
Spanish Conquests in North Africa
Swedish War
Thirty Years’ War
Transylvania-Hapsburg War
Tukulor-French War
Turko-Persian Wars
United States War on Terror
Vellore Mutiny
Vjayanagar Wars
First Villmergen War
Second Villmergen War
Visigothic-Frankish War
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Pure nonsense.
The fact is that many many more have died in wars with no religious goals then have died in religious wars. This is a proven fact.

Give it a break you don't know what you're talking about.

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Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>They are opposite sides of yourself, one and the same.
They are your book of reverence , the bible.
"Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>How do you know god isn't Satan? Have you got a picture of them together? They might be the same thing."

"one and the same. "

Ok so now you have cemented yourself as completely ignorant of the Christian faith.

Good day.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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Langoliers wrote:
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"Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>How do you know god isn't Satan? Have you got a picture of them together? They might be the same thing."
"one and the same. "
Ok so now you have cemented yourself as completely ignorant of the Christian faith.
Good day.
Or is it night? I'm afraid it is you who do not know, and are completely ignorant. Trust me when I tell you when you open your book of belief, you will find them both in it's bag of tricks. God and the Devil are in the book you learned and believe.
Without one there is no other, the both of them in your mind.

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Pure nonsense.
The fact is that many many more have died in wars with no religious goals then have died in religious wars. This is a proven fact.
Give it a break you don't know what you're talking about.
What is nonsense?

The post he was responding to was the wars...not the deaths. But that is irrelevant... even 1 war over who has the right god is too many... or 1 death. Stop making excuses for hate. You can stick with your belief without excusing violence to defend your belief system....

If atheists got together to kill Muslims and Christians... i would not defend my fellow non believers. That would be sick.

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Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>Or is it night? I'm afraid it is you who do not know, and are completely ignorant. Trust me when I tell you when you open your book of belief, you will find them both in it's bag of tricks. God and the Devil are in the book you learned and believe.
Without one there is no other, the both of them in your mind.
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>How do you know god isn't Satan? Have you got a picture of them together? They might be the same thing."

"one and the same. "

Ok so now you have cemented yourself as completely ignorant of the Christian faith.

"Trust me"

Not in a million years.

Good day.

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