Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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Jan 20, 2013
 
Clementia wrote:
@Serah....look, sweetheart, when me and Redneck are 'fighting', don't get involved! U know, he gave me the shirt off his back when i spilt choco(?) on mine and I've given him permission to fart! U see, we have this....'connection' that u wouldn't understand. I like pullin' his leg, so get off your high horse and sit down and have some butter milk!!
Tell her i'm right, Redneck! Tell her, cowboy!!
And yh that was the sikh and pope joke, we were told it in the gurudwara, i thought it was funny, too.
Woah... I don't need permission to fart.

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The bartender said "Is this some kind of joke?"

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Jan 20, 2013
 
Clementia wrote:
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Aww, don't be like that, darlin', i can PM u too, wink wink! it'll be our secret, nobody will ever know!!
What is it with liberty guy and the PM thing, i can't figure out what he's up to! I can remember when he picked on me and called me childish, but now this?
talking about PM, liberty guy, check PM, again! and STOP BEING SO DAMN RUDE OR U KNOW WHAT I'LL HAVE TO DO!!!
That liberty guy will be your friend as long as you agree with him. If not, he'll repeatedly call you a retard.

It's a typical liberal American standpoint: "I'm right, you're wrong. And I'll fight until you live your life just like me."

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Jan 20, 2013
 
Hedonist wrote:
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When I was born "god" wasn't in the pledge nor a part of our motto.
We were "one nation, indivisible" and "e pluribus unum" (out of many we become one). Then the religious right screwed us up.
These changes were spearheaded by the lobbying efforts of the Knights of Columbus (the largest Catholic fraternity in the world). It only took the Catholics about 170 years, but they finally got a religious wedge into our government. This turmoil about theocratic vs. secular government is just what the Catholic leadership wants.
"that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vainóthat this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom"

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Jan 20, 2013
 
Very Cynical Person wrote:
<quoted text>Thatís debatable.
As I and many others see your biblical mythical god as evil.
If you consider 0.07% of the American population as "many", you've got issues.....

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Jan 20, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Woah... I don't need permission to fart.
:)
A priest, a rabbi & a Sikh walk into a bar.
The bartender said "Is this some kind of joke?"
No, i said if u did, i won't get offended, i'll do that much for u!

I don't get it, why would he think it's a joke? coz normally jokes start like that, is that why? if that is the joke, then that's not very funny, u gotta do better, Redneck!!

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Jan 20, 2013
 
Aura Mytha wrote:
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No what is rude is for you to try to tell me that not having a belief, is a belief. We get tired f theists telling us how we interpret our non-belief, if I'm rude sorry.
But I will never try to tell you what you believe, but would ask you instead.
Sorry you don't like all the meanings of Faith, but you have confident belief in something, whereas mine lies with my Creator, yours lies with science and their ideas and things. I have Faith in our Historians and Scribes, although I do believe that man(kind) has influenced some of the writings, so I read them with love in my heart, and care in my eyes. I care for the Father who gave us life to the point where I would like to make Him happy; and am happy with that path. You have Faith there is no need for Faith, thinking that your belief is only called a belief, but as you can see confident belief does equal something other than 2 words:)

Faith is ......

***faith - definition of faith by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and ...
www.thefreedictionary.com/faith
Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing. 2. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence****

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Jan 20, 2013
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
Nothing I said there was rude you schizo. Take your medicine already and get over the fact that we don't believe in your retarded god.
Hitler called the Jews Christ killers and he was going I make them pay. It's just a fact. Sorry if the voices in your head disagree.
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Sorry you are so rude you don't even comprehend your own rudeness, and sorry you do not see the cruelty in your words. Oh, I can go back and find those postings, have no fear, too bad you don't know enough regret to understand you should feel remorse for writing them!!

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Jan 20, 2013
 
Eagle12 wrote:
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First let me say for a man of science that prides himself in facts. I would like to know where you retrieved those numbers. I donít recall the remains of the dead in the Exodus were ever weighed.......
Correct but you posted:-
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You wouldnít happen to know what the average weight of a human skeleton?
My guess itís anywhere between 10 to 15 pounds.......
In actual fact you are not far off.

Now seeing how the number of people who went on the 40 year picnic was somewhere between 600,000 and a couple of million and the average life expectancy was about 40 years. The number of people who died on the trip was about equal to the starting population. Also, remember you said that they carried their dead with them.

So let us a nice round number of 1,000,000 people then the total mass of bones was:-

10-15,000,000lbs = 1,000,000 x (10 --> 15)

or somewhere between 6000-7000 tons. Now is it not a little odd that they have never been found? Don't you think that someone would have noticed a mass grave of 1,000,000 people.

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Jan 20, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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That liberty guy will be your friend as long as you agree with him. If not, he'll repeatedly call you a retard.
It's a typical liberal American standpoint: "I'm right, you're wrong. And I'll fight until you live your life just like me."
really?

and yet its
the conservatives, not the liberals, who want to dictate who can marry who. Conservatives want to be able to tell complete strangers who they can marry.
its the conservatives, not the liberals, who want to decide what medical procedures a woman can have.
its the conservatives, not the liberals, who want to decide what medications a woman can use.
its the conservatives, not the liberals, who want to decide what you can smoke and what you can't.
its the conservatives, not the liberals, who want to decide what religious dogma, symbology and prayers are acceptable in public and gov't buildings and land

when it comes to having gov't intrude on the private lives of adult U.S. citizens, I'd have to say the conservatives who are forcing others to live their lives according to conservative ideals
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Jan 20, 2013
 
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry you are so rude you don't even comprehend your own rudeness, and sorry you do not see the cruelty in your words. Oh, I can go back and find those postings, have no fear, too bad you don't know enough regret to understand you should feel remorse for writing them!!
read Bible,and don't post cheap blind stupidity

Jews said before Jesus death to Pilatus
"His blood goes on us and our children.........
also what hitler did it?

God is creator of evil too,but uncontroled rebelious evil can be used against second wicked and vicious evils- traitors and murders of Jesus be their fathers

God learn something,and aks God if His son died for your dog to take him to a heaven and leave you heare on this earth

Understanding God is not to easy

But blaspheming God by different wicked bamblings is simple and easy for all churchoids,atheists,mockers, and wicked ones immoraly filthy lost 2/3 population of humankind

LOVE GOD AND HIS CHILDREN ALSO IS NOT TO EASY

BUT HATE GODS CHILDREN IS SIMPLE AND EASY TO POST,INSULTS,MOCK THEM AND SPEW AT THEIR TRUTH SAID STRAIGHT TO THE FACES OF EACH EARTHLY PERVERTS

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Jan 20, 2013
 
Richardfs wrote:
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Correct but you posted:-
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In actual fact you are not far off.
Now seeing how the number of people who went on the 40 year picnic was somewhere between 600,000 and a couple of million and the average life expectancy was about 40 years. The number of people who died on the trip was about equal to the starting population. Also, remember you said that they carried their dead with them.
So let us a nice round number of 1,000,000 people then the total mass of bones was:-
10-15,000,000lbs = 1,000,000 x (10 --> 15)
or somewhere between 6000-7000 tons. Now is it not a little odd that they have never been found? Don't you think that someone would have noticed a mass grave of 1,000,000 people.
What makes you assume there'd be any remains left to find? Bones decompose, too. After several thousand years, they'd be indiscernible from the dirt.

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Jan 20, 2013
 
Clementia wrote:
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No, i said if u did, i won't get offended, i'll do that much for u!
I don't get it, why would he think it's a joke? coz normally jokes start like that, is that why? if that is the joke, then that's not very funny, u gotta do better, Redneck!!
Yes, Clementine... That was the joke.

I can switch to dirty jokes if you like :)

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Karma is a_______ wrote:
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really?
and yet its
the conservatives, not the liberals, who want to dictate who can marry who. Conservatives want to be able to tell complete strangers who they can marry.
its the conservatives, not the liberals, who want to decide what medical procedures a woman can have.
its the conservatives, not the liberals, who want to decide what medications a woman can use.
its the conservatives, not the liberals, who want to decide what you can smoke and what you can't.
its the conservatives, not the liberals, who want to decide what religious dogma, symbology and prayers are acceptable in public and gov't buildings and land
when it comes to having gov't intrude on the private lives of adult U.S. citizens, I'd have to say the conservatives who are forcing others to live their lives according to conservative ideals
Liberal hypocrisy at its finest.

Liberals want the government out of their bedrooms, unless birth control is handed to them.

Liberals are ok with smoking pot, but cigarettes are a no-no. Now they're telling us where we can smoke.

Liberals are ok with abortion - as long as the woman getting the snort ion doesn't pay for it.

Liberals are ok with abortion, but against the death penalty.

Liberals claim to be environmentalists, but left 100 tons of trash at Obama's inauguration in '08. They are so proud to drive their hybrid cats made with Korean batteries that are produced with deadly products.

Liberals want organic food but them complain about the price.

Liberals want more jobs but then raise taxes.

Liberal women wear the loose pants in the relationship while liberal men wear the skinny jeans. Then the liberal woman cheats on her passive liberal twit with a real man.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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Jan 20, 2013
 
Incessant Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>That is like asking you how do you know that round is not square! Do your not understand that the definition defines in either case so that satan could not be God and a square could not be round. Thinking is not only a concept, it is a brain condition which you must try.

One does not exist without the other and both of them in your mind.
Sure sounds like the same thing to me, just opposite sides of the same coin.

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Jan 20, 2013
 
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry you don't like all the meanings of Faith, but you have confident belief in something, whereas mine lies with my Creator, yours lies with science and their ideas and things. I have Faith in our Historians and Scribes, although I do believe that man(kind) has influenced some of the writings, so I read them with love in my heart, and care in my eyes. I care for the Father who gave us life to the point where I would like to make Him happy; and am happy with that path. You have Faith there is no need for Faith, thinking that your belief is only called a belief, but as you can see confident belief does equal something other than 2 words:)
Faith is ......
***faith - definition of faith by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and ...
www.thefreedictionary.com/faith
Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing. 2. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence****
Exactly my point, science is not faith.
Because it relies on logical deductive reasoning , material evidence, empirical evidence , and observation.

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Jan 20, 2013
 
Richardfs wrote:
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Correct but you posted:-
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In actual fact you are not far off.
Now seeing how the number of people who went on the 40 year picnic was somewhere between 600,000 and a couple of million and the average life expectancy was about 40 years. The number of people who died on the trip was about equal to the starting population. Also, remember you said that they carried their dead with them.
So let us a nice round number of 1,000,000 people then the total mass of bones was:-
10-15,000,000lbs = 1,000,000 x (10 --> 15)
or somewhere between 6000-7000 tons. Now is it not a little odd that they have never been found? Don't you think that someone would have noticed a mass grave of 1,000,000 people.
The information is available on the net about the historic burial grounds in Israel and surrounding area. There are several and some graves contain many family members.

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Liberal hypocrisy at its finest.
Liberals want the government out of their bedrooms, unless birth control is handed to them.
Liberals are ok with smoking pot, but cigarettes are a no-no. Now they're telling us where we can smoke.
Liberals are ok with abortion - as long as the woman getting the snort ion doesn't pay for it.
Liberals are ok with abortion, but against the death penalty.
Liberals claim to be environmentalists, but left 100 tons of trash at Obama's inauguration in '08. They are so proud to drive their hybrid cats made with Korean batteries that are produced with deadly products.
Liberals want organic food but them complain about the price.
Liberals want more jobs but then raise taxes.
Liberal women wear the loose pants in the relationship while liberal men wear the skinny jeans. Then the liberal woman cheats on her passive liberal twit with a real man.
You are becoming a whiny baby.
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Jan 20, 2013
 
Incessant Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>Which defines you on the side of satan and trying to justify that. Hitler did not think he was evil but indeed he was on the same side of the coin as you.
there is good in the worst of us and there is the potential for evil even in the best of us.

Everybody's got a dark side
Do you love me?
Can you love mine?
Nobody's a picture perfect
But we're worth it
You know that we're worth it
Will you love me?
Even with my dark side?
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#149037
Jan 20, 2013
 
solopassage wrote:
No religious affiliation more likely to cause suicide. In 2004, the American Journal of Psychiatry reported the following:
"Religiously unaffiliated subjects had significantly more lifetime suicide attempts and more first-degree relatives who committed suicide than subjects who endorsed a religious affiliation. Unaffiliated subjects were younger, less often married, less often had children, and had less contact with family members. Furthermore, subjects with no religious affiliation perceived FEWER REASONS FOR LIVING, particularly FEWER MORAL OBJECTIONS TO SUICIDE. In terms of clinical characteristics, religiously unaffiliated subjects had more lifetime impulsivity, aggression, and past substance use disorder."
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/article.aspx...
But more died in religion/wars on worldwide scale! Better read history on world wars and Religions, are interrelated.

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Jan 20, 2013
 
Incessant Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>Which defines you on the side of satan and trying to justify that. Hitler did not think he was evil but indeed he was on the same side of the coin as you.
I'm sorry satan exists in YOUR mind, not mine.
Also if there is evil, it would be you.

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