Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Jan 19, 2013
 
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In what way have I demonstrated that I think I'm above God?
In what way have I demonstrated that I spread hate?
I think people have forgotten that JESUS was hated by the rich and powerful and accordingly, tortured and executed, and it wasn't for not standing up for what was right.
**This is the only account of Jesus using physical force in any of the Gospels and is related to the topic of "but to bring a sword." The narrative occurs near the end of the Synoptic Gospels (at Mark 11:15–19, 11:27–33, Matthew 21:12–17, 21:23–27 and Luke 19:45–48, 20:1–8) and near the start in the Gospel of John (at John 2:13–16). Some scholars believe that these refer to two separate incidents, given that the Gospel of John also includes more than one Passover.[4]
In this episode, Jesus is stated to have visited the Temple in Jerusalem, Herod's Temple, where the courtyard is described as being filled with livestock and the tables of the money changers, who changed the standard Greek and Roman money for Jewish and Tyrian money.[1] Jerusalem was packed with Jews who had come for Passover, perhaps numbering 300,000 to 400,000 pilgrims.[5][6]
Creating a whip from some cords, "he drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and the oxen, and poured out the changers’ money and overturned the tables. But he said to those who sold doves,‘Get these out of here! Do not make My Father’s house a house of trade!’"[Jn 2:13-16]
Israel Museum model of Herod's Temple, referred to in John 2:13.
"And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all of them who sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves."
—Matthew 21:12-13 ****
We should spread the word of love, and we should turn the other cheek, but we don't have to allow people to mock and ridicule us purely because they have no comprehension of that which is inherent within. All of us.
2 Timothy 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. KJV
And we do need to live GODly, as such, but the persecution of man(kind), if replaced by the love of GOD, is not a curse, but an honor :)

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Jan 20, 2013
 
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u r ignorant, u r mean, racist, u say things and don't even understand u r hurting someone's feelings. You would probably get more hurt if i called God or Jesus names then if i called Catcher names and started picking on him. You would probably laugh at his pain.
Why do u people feel the need to defend God, when he is capable of defending himself? Why can't u see the pain of human-beings, but u believe u feel the pain of God? You love God but u don't love his creation! You walk around with your eyes closed, but u think u can see!
You know, when posters laughed and joked about my Sister (the one burned to death at 2 and a half) rotting in the ground, some said it was cruel and not many laughed, but no-one said much of anything.

We don't know each other ~ we are in here, for what ever reason we see fit, and we will be judged by what we write. I don't expect you to support anything I write, but you obviously don't really care about other's feelings, unless it suits you, because I have seen some shocking stuff written in here.

A Christian does have to turn the other cheek and we are only Christians because of our Natures; and in reality, we don't even have the right to Judge anyone as a Christian because that sort of Judgement sits where it should; with GOD and JESUS.

Your posting in itself is probably hurtful ~ so in reality, you are the kettle calling the pot black??

No

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Jan 20, 2013
 
Thinking wrote:
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1 Timothy 2:12
So STFU or do the right thing: disobey your bible.
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Cheers big ears ~ written a posting to Wilderide with my opinion on this :O)

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Jan 20, 2013
 
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Wow, ok.
Sorry if you think I come off as mean. I'm just honest & blunt. That's my character. I don't put much thought into people's feelings.
I'm by no means racist. To be racist implies that you think your race is superior, I don't think that at all. So I tell racist jokes here & there. I see that as BIG DEAL. Was it the "towel-head" thing that pusses you off? I'm sure it wasn't any if the redneck jokes I've posted...
What do you think I'm ignorant of? One cannot be flat out ignorant of everything.
Of course God is capable of defending Himself, I'm here as a Christian voice to defend Christians, not God.
Oh my dear, my eyes are wide open. I see the world in a way you don't.
Don't be so quick to judge. It's suits you wrong.
Agree with your posting.... but think we should all try and have empathy to what the impact of our words will have on others! Hard to be the happy chappy all the time though, I have learned from experience :)
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Jan 20, 2013
 
Serah wrote:
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I think people have forgotten that JESUS was hated by the rich and powerful and accordingly, tortured and executed, and it wasn't for not standing up for what was right.
**This is the only account of Jesus using physical force in any of the Gospels and is related to the topic of "but to bring a sword." The narrative occurs near the end of the Synoptic Gospels (at Mark 11:15–19, 11:27–33, Matthew 21:12–17, 21:23–27 and Luke 19:45–48, 20:1–8) and near the start in the Gospel of John (at John 2:13–16). Some scholars believe that these refer to two separate incidents, given that the Gospel of John also includes more than one Passover.[4]
In this episode, Jesus is stated to have visited the Temple in Jerusalem, Herod's Temple, where the courtyard is described as being filled with livestock and the tables of the money changers, who changed the standard Greek and Roman money for Jewish and Tyrian money.[1] Jerusalem was packed with Jews who had come for Passover, perhaps numbering 300,000 to 400,000 pilgrims.[5][6]
Creating a whip from some cords, "he drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and the oxen, and poured out the changers’ money and overturned the tables. But he said to those who sold doves,‘Get these out of here! Do not make My Father’s house a house of trade!’"[Jn 2:13-16]
Israel Museum model of Herod's Temple, referred to in John 2:13.
"And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all of them who sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves."
—Matthew 21:12-13 ****
We should spread the word of love, and we should turn the other cheek, but we don't have to allow people to mock and ridicule us purely because they have no comprehension of that which is inherent within. All of us.
2 Timothy 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. KJV
And we do need to live GODly, as such, but the persecution of man(kind), if replaced by the love of GOD, is not a curse, but an honor :)
Are there any passage(s) in The Christian Bible you read is dirty...?

Are Christian's more moral and Superior in Intelligence over other races, or even Atheists, or over other religions?

Why did you pick Christian over other religions or beliefs...?

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Jan 20, 2013
 
Catcher1 wrote:
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Sorry, my presence here is permanent.
So be careful.
You just may find yourself under the white sheet.
(One piece of advice: Don't make a complete fool of yourself with the fish-evolving-into-a-man sort of argument.)
hahaha.... no, get down and boogy with the rock evolving into man argument; much flipping funnier LOL

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Jan 20, 2013
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
Like in Mein Kampf where he goes on and on about his religious faith and how important god is? Or his actions of killing the Jews as revenge for them killing Jesus? He called them Christ killers and he was going to make them pay for what they did to his messiah and god Jesus. Again where did he claim he was an atheist or even claim to no longer believe in god?
Hurry up retard! Wake up retard! Hey wake up riverside retard and eat your retarded breakfast before someone flushes!
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a!
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Prince Charming at it again..... are they too chicken siht to tell you your are one flipping rude dude, or aren't you worth the effort?

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Aura Mytha wrote:
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I knew what I wrote would fly right over your head, and that you would continue your mindless rant.
Produce a deity not a rumor of one and we will be inclined to "believe". Until then we simply "do not believe".
Nor do we believe you can possibly believe any different, being the brainwashed idiot you are.
I'm stepping up a notch ~ everyone seems to be wanting to let people know they are rude and ignorant at the moment, but it's one sided, so I'm helping with the balance...... Very rude crap posting, AM, and not worth reading or actually writing. Having thoughts that tell your fingers to write such trash must really be mentally challenging :(

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Jan 20, 2013
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
The riverside retard is upset we don't believe in his retarded god. And trust me nothing has retarded the human race like god and religion.
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One some back????? Puhlease ~ you're just not worth the effort...... but at least we know who cares about what in here, don't we??

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Jan 20, 2013
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
Clem lady can you show me where he made this racist joke perhaps page and post number so it can be properly reported?
Thanks so much :)
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Yeah ~ I wanna see it too ..... can I get you reported for your sicko jokes about laughing about my Sister being buried in the ground? Racist against the dead and those who can't defend themselves is pretty damned flipping low, but I guess you can really get down there, and I probably 'aint seen nothing yet!!

Come on Clem, lady, give us the link

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Jan 20, 2013
 
Xyzhoturutsmail wrote:
<quoted text>Are you just dumb. These are living cells, living molecules and atoms. If not then they could not receive signals. You are stupid, we do not have a secular government. I suggest you read the Schemff vs Abbington School District supreme court decision. It says that the government is neutral, neither secular or religious and it can not favor or promote either.

Secular is neutral dipwad.

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Jan 20, 2013
 
Mikko wrote:
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Atheism is no faith
It is having faith in the faith there is no faith..... so it is a faith

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<quoted text>I'm stepping up a notch ~ everyone seems to be wanting to let people know they are rude and ignorant at the moment, but it's one sided, so I'm helping with the balance...... Very rude crap posting, AM, and not worth reading or actually writing. Having thoughts that tell your fingers to write such trash must really be mentally challenging :(
No what is rude is for you to try to tell me that not having a belief, is a belief. We get tired f theists telling us how we interpret our non-belief, if I'm rude sorry.
But I will never try to tell you what you believe, but would ask you instead.

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Jan 20, 2013
 
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<quoted text>It is having faith in the faith there is no faith..... so it is a faith

See what I mean? Rude , you should ask not tell us .
I don't tell you what you believe.

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Jan 20, 2013
 
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It's on the prove a God thread, one was about black people and the other was when he called Muslims towel-heads and i said to him i'm a sikh, we wear turbans more than Muslims do, but he told me not to get offended.
I'll try and find the page number, liberty guy!:-)
Towel Heads? I guess you know there is war happening and there is a lot more tougher stuff going on than being called a Towel Head. Have you thought of protesting against war and killing?

Americans are allowed to call people Black, although in Australia that is a racist comment.***African Americans[3](also referred to as Black Americans or Afro-Americans, and formerly as American Negroes) are citizens or residents of the United States who have total or partial ancestry from any of the native populations of Sub-Saharan Africa.[4] The term is not usually used for black residents of other countries in the Americas.

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Jan 20, 2013
 
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Hell, you're so thoroughly indoctinated by science's fictions, I bet you tossed your laptop out the window just to see if it was intelligent enough to evolve into a bird.
Yes ~ the quickly becoming extinct bird through failure to adapt worked out a new plan ~ quickly change their DNA (by mutating the right ones) to that of a solar powered laptop, knowing they are bound to be auto adapting with the new technology in the making!! There is so much evidence of all this adaptation, that something has to be going on somewhere, today, as we write,'cause something that smart sure as heck just woudn't stop, without a reason :)

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Jan 20, 2013
 
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You say your jokes are for the light-hearted, meant just for fun.
But they are nevertheless rude, which makes you rude.
I didn't say "that bigot RR."
Although you do give the impression of being something of a bigot.
Mirror image.......you also give the impression of being a bigot.

***a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.***

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Jan 20, 2013
 
Clementia wrote:
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What, u got little feet? u know what they say about men with little feet, don't ya!!! ;-)
heheheheheheehheeeeeeeeeeeeee heh hehe heh heheheee
is that your laugh? hurts my eyes and my ears

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Jan 20, 2013
 
Nothing I said there was rude you schizo. Take your medicine already and get over the fact that we don't believe in your retarded god.

Hitler called the Jews Christ killers and he was going I make them pay. It's just a fact. Sorry if the voices in your head disagree.
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<quoted text>Prince Charming at it again..... are they too chicken siht to tell you your are one flipping rude dude, or aren't you worth the effort?

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Jan 20, 2013
 
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what's to understand about hillbilly's, i seen american films, u know!
i get that, that's funny! we always take the piss out of ourselves.
Where did u get these jokes?
Did u here the one about a sardar ji going to see the pope or something?
I Googled it and thought it very funny.....

***About a century or two ago, the Pope decided that all the Sikhs had to leave Italy .

Naturally there was a big uproar from the Sikh community.

So the Pope made a deal.

He would have a religious debate with a single chosen member of the Sikh community.

If the Sikh won in the debate, the Sikhs could stay.

If the Pope won, the Sikhs would leave.

The Sikhs realized that they had no choice.

So, they picked a middle-aged man named Manjeet Singh to represent them. manjeet asked for one condition to the debate - neither side would be allowed to talk. They could only make gestures to make the opposite side understand their view points. The Pope agreed to this.

The day of the great debate came.

Manjeet Singh and the Pope sat opposite each other for a full minute.

Then the Pope raised his hand and showed three fingers.

Manjeet looked back at him and raised one finger.

The Pope waved his fingers in a circle around his head.

Manjeet pointed to the ground where he sat.

The Pope pulled out a wafer and a glass of wine.

Manjeet pulled out an apple.

The Pope stood up and said,

"I give up. This man is too good. The Sikhs can stay."

An hour later, the cardinals were gathered around the Pope asking him what had happened. The Pope said, "First I held up three fingers to represent the Holy Trinity.

He responded by holding up one finger to remind me that there was still One God common to both our religions.

Then, I waved my finger around me to show him that God was all around us.

He responded by pointing to the ground and showing that God was also right here with us.

Then, I pulled out the wine and wafer to show that God absolves us from our sins.

He pulled out an apple to remind me of original sin.

He had an answer for everything. What could I do?"

Meanwhile, the Sikh community had crowded around manjeet Singh.

"What happened?" they asked. "Well," said manjeet, "First he said to me that the Sikhs had three days to get out of here.

I told him not one of us was leaving.

Then he told me that this whole city would be cleared of Sikhs.

I let him know that we were staying right here."

"Yes, and then???" asked the crowd.

"I don't know", said manjeet, "He took out his lunch, and I took out mine!":

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