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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#148715 Jan 17, 2013
That's not how logic works. I can call you a cu*t and still be right. Besides, only morons are scared of swear words.
mtimber wrote:
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No sir, it was emotional.
Whenever you are reduced to using expletives to affirm your own authority, you are relying on emotional stimuli.

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#148716 Jan 17, 2013
mtimber wrote:
Then you will have no difficulty dealing with my arguments then...:-)
Keep smiling.

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#148717 Jan 17, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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How does one "take the piss outta yourself"?
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No, I don't. People nowadays are a bunch of sissy la-la's. Every other day it's offend this & those are offensive that. It's ridiculous. You can't fart sideways in the wind without somebody complaining about how offensive it is.
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No I'm not.
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Good for you. I for one, will.
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What's wrong? You can't understand that seeing the world through other people's eyes as beneficial? If that's so, you're sheltered.
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Naaaah! You're not angry......
hmmm...like i do!

so why the hell r u here defending Christians then? why the hell u offended, u sissy la-la, lol that's a new term for me.

what's with the farting, first mylan was at it and now u, did u eat too much potato salad or grilled cheese? I told u to drink warm water, didn't i? Go on, fart away, i'll just hold my breath!! Don't ever tell me that i don't do enough for u!

When did u look at the world through my eyes?

I'm not angry! Why, u wanna see me angry? I could do that for u, too!!!

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#148718 Jan 17, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Clementine is not angry, RR.
She is frustrated and disappointed, though, at your lack of sensitivity, empathy and compassion.
Jesus is rolling over in his...wherever he is.
u talking about me, but not to me. Oh I see, u playing hard to get. Well, 2 can play that game!

First, Tide could read my mind and now u, r u angels or demons?

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#148719 Jan 17, 2013
mtimber wrote:
Dawkins false analogy, whilst trumpted by many atheists as the final word on the matter is, is very poor as an argument against God...
Is the flying spaghetti monster:
Omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent, absolutely moral and eternal?
If he is then he would have manifested himself to man as such, because it would have been his nature to do so.
So no, you cannot substitute that poor analogy for God and expect your argument to be treated as sincere...
It's an argument to demonstrate the absurdity of taking extraordinary claims seriously that are presented without any objectively verifiable evidence.

What separates the quality of evidence for your god from that of any number of other gods?

Langoliers

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#148720 Jan 17, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>Atheism is not a religion . It is as disbelief in any gods .
An atheist religion has no supreme deity or god they worship like... Jainism, Buddhism, Raelism, Neopagan movements such as Wicca and Modern Gaia.
" It is as disbelief in any gods ."
Wrong!

Merriam-Webster.
athe·ist\ˈā-thē-ist\
noun
: one who believes that there is no deity

Not a disbelieve but a believe.

This is why every survey list Atheist ( a person that BELIEVES there is no God or gods) and non-believers separate.

ag·nos·tic\ag-ˈnäs-tik,əg -\
noun
1 : a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god
2 : a person who is unwilling to commit to an opinion about something <political agnostics>

It's so sad you can't get the difference in these two words.

Langoliers

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#148721 Jan 17, 2013
jeffthecheeseman wrote:
Agreed, Aerobatty. I am neither "atheist" nor "religious" If someone could produce for me one iota of proof, not faith, that a God exists, I would convert.I keep on hearing that I lack "faith". Sorry, but I need evidence if I am going to change my life and bet my "soul" on the existence of a God.
"If someone could produce for me one iota of proof"

You an many others!

There is no proof and I doubt there will ever be proof found in your life time that there is a God.

"Sorry, but I need evidence if I am going to change my life"

So what is it proof or evidence that you need? Not that I would want to try and convert you, I couldn't care less what your believes are.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#148722 Jan 17, 2013
Sock off.
Langoliers wrote:
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" It is as disbelief in any gods ."
Wrong!
Merriam-Webster.
athe·ist\ˈā-thē-ist\
noun
: one who believes that there is no deity
Not a disbelieve but a believe.
This is why every survey list Atheist ( a person that BELIEVES there is no God or gods) and non-believers separate.
ag·nos·tic\ag-ˈnäs-tik,əg -\
noun
1 : a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god
2 : a person who is unwilling to commit to an opinion about something <political agnostics>
It's so sad you can't get the difference in these two words.

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#148724 Jan 17, 2013
Clementia wrote:
u talking about me, but not to me. Oh I see, u playing hard to get. Well, 2 can play that game!
First, Tide could read my mind and now u, r u angels or demons?
I can't read minds.

If I could, I'd look for minds in the fantasy section.

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#148726 Jan 17, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Sock off.
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You guys gotta stop saying, we don't BELIEVE in God or gods/ atheism is a disBELIEF in.....

We gotta think of a definition for atheism that doesn't have the words, believe, disbelief, non-belief etc....in it!!

“Ditat Deus”

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#148727 Jan 17, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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hmmm...like i do!
so why the hell r u here defending Christians then? why the hell u offended, u sissy la-la, lol that's a new term for me.
what's with the farting, first mylan was at it and now u, did u eat too much potato salad or grilled cheese? I told u to drink warm water, didn't i? Go on, fart away, i'll just hold my breath!! Don't ever tell me that i don't do enough for u!
When did u look at the world through my eyes?
I'm not angry! Why, u wanna see me angry? I could do that for u, too!!!
Alright I'll try to play nice when you're around, how about that?

I'll do an equal amount of whitey jokes as I do others, ok?

As long as I get to fart...

What's a hillbilly say after sex?

...

Git offa me dad, yer crushin ma smokes!

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#148729 Jan 17, 2013
Clementia wrote:
You guys gotta stop saying, we don't BELIEVE in God or gods/ atheism is a disBELIEF in.....
We gotta think of a definition for atheism that doesn't have the words, believe, disbelief, non-belief etc....in it!!
An atheist is a person who is not a theist.

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#148731 Jan 17, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Alright I'll try to play nice when you're around, how about that?
I'll do an equal amount of whitey jokes as I do others, ok?
As long as I get to fart...
What's a hillbilly say after sex?
...
Git offa me dad, yer crushin ma smokes!
Yh....nooooo! the problem with your jokes is that they r mean. u can have racist jokes but there is a limit, u get me?

O LOL, THAT'S SOOOOOOOO FUNNY, HILARIOUS.......I DON'T GET IT???

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#148732 Jan 17, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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An atheist is a person who is not a theist.
Now, i gotta look up what i theist is and it'll say someone who believes in God, then i'll have to think for myself and i'll assume that an atheist is a person who doesn't BELIEVE in God.

Tide, it's a longer way of coming back to where we were going before!

Keep trying, we'll get there in the end, i mean get somewhere else! I believe in you!!

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#148733 Jan 17, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Why?
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What? Why? Who cares?
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They are also usually adults. That doesn't make Secular Humanism an adult organization.
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Indeed. Morality is subjective.
So if morality is subjective, what do you use as an absolute defining position to define that subjectivity?

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#148734 Jan 17, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Try ripping off a compelling argument next time.
You might want to try dealing with the point made, rather than appeal to your own opinion as proof...

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#148735 Jan 17, 2013
Thinking wrote:
That's not how logic works. I can call you a cu*t and still be right. Besides, only morons are scared of swear words.
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You think being offensive makes you right?

So the person who swears the most is by default the most intelligent?

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#148736 Jan 17, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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It's an argument to demonstrate the absurdity of taking extraordinary claims seriously that are presented without any objectively verifiable evidence.
What separates the quality of evidence for your god from that of any number of other gods?
No, it is a false analogy, as I have already clearly shown.

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#148737 Jan 17, 2013
Clementia wrote:
Now, i gotta look up what i theist is and it'll say someone who believes in God, then i'll have to think for myself and i'll assume that an atheist is a person who doesn't BELIEVE in God.
Tide, it's a longer way of coming back to where we were going before!
Keep trying, we'll get there in the end, i mean get somewhere else! I believe in you!!
Would a god be an atheist?

Think about it.

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#148738 Jan 17, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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Dawkins false analogy, whilst trumpted by many atheists as the final word on the matter is, is very poor as an argument against God...
Is the flying spaghetti monster:
Omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent, absolutely moral and eternal?
If he is then he would have manifested himself to man as such, because it would have been his nature to do so.
So no, you cannot substitute that poor analogy for God and expect your argument to be treated as sincere...
You decide :

We believe the Flying Spaghetti Monster created the world much as it exists today, but for reasons unknown made it appear that the universe is billions of years old (instead of thousands) and that life evolved into its current state (rather than created in its current form). Every time a researcher carries out an experiment that appears to confirm one of these “scientific theories” supporting an old earth and evolution we can be sure that the FSM is there, modifying the data with his Noodly Appendage. We don’t know why He does this but we believe He does, that is our Faith.

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