Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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#148520 Jan 16, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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Do I support slavery?
You do realize that slavery continues today even in our country. There are young girls who were drafted into prostitution and some were smuggled here for that purpose. My answer is absolutely a no, past, present or future.
In my own family history we had family members on both sides of the issue pre and post civil war. The Bible does talk about slavery but you must understand it was a legal and accepted practice at the time. Itís a historical fact but in Jewish history there were limits on slavery.
Another point Atheist seem to forget. In Jewish Biblical history the Children of Abraham were also slaves including Joseph who rose in rank in the Egyptian government.
Eagle, God has the power to stop slavery, he could have made it illegal, you know.

But what i don't get is, how can the bible be for slavery if Moses freed the slaves?

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#148521 Jan 16, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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Do I support slavery?
You do realize that slavery continues today even in our country. There are young girls who were drafted into prostitution and some were smuggled here for that purpose. My answer is absolutely a no, past, present or future.
In my own family history we had family members on both sides of the issue pre and post civil war. The Bible does talk about slavery but you must understand it was a legal and accepted practice at the time. Itís a historical fact but in Jewish history there were limits on slavery.
Another point Atheist seem to forget. In Jewish Biblical history the Children of Abraham were also slaves including Joseph who rose in rank in the Egyptian government.
You must understand that this "Biblical History" is mythology.

But, be that as it may, what you are really saying is that either:

1 -- your deity did not realize that slavery was a bad thing and therefore never spoke out against it

OR

2 -- Christian morals have changed over time and you do not really use the Bible as you ultimate guide to morality.

OR

3 -- all of the above.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#148522 Jan 16, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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But what i don't get is, how can the bible be for slavery if Moses freed the slaves?
Well, more specifically, Moses supposedly freed the *Jews* from Egyptian slavery. So it's OK to enslave some people, but not others.

Fun fact: there is actually no objective evidence that the Jews were ever systematically enslaved by the Egyptians, nor is there any evidence for a mass exodus of between 2-3 million people from Egypt either.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#148523 Jan 16, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Yep ~ and that we are all here to make each others lives happy, not miserable LOL
That's why I throw in a joke here and there...

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#148524 Jan 16, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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This is all taken from " http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler 's_religious_views"
So you skip over the pages and pages of pro-Christianity speeches given by Hitler and go down to the DISPUTED quotes from supposed table talks.
That's real desperation.
None of that was taken from wiki.

Besides, so what about his "pro-Christian" views, they were dishonest. Hitler was merely appealing to the stupid masses. You appear to have joined to crowd.

“Ditat Deus”

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#148525 Jan 16, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
Now you're plagerizing Walter (Jeff Dunham). Have you no shame?
Good call!

I knew we could find some common ground.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#148526 Jan 16, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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Eagle, God has the power to stop slavery, he could have made it illegal, you know.
But what i don't get is, how can the bible be for slavery if Moses freed the slaves?
Hey Clementine, Will you be my slave?

Just for a little while.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#148527 Jan 16, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>infrared=light

You're dumb. That's why your clues are so cheap.
Then why didn't you say infrared light?

And there's enough visible sunlight hitting Jupiter and Saturn to reflect brightly back to Earth.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#148528 Jan 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>It's supposed to sound like I'm sick n tired of writing the same shit over & over for you people.
At least you know it's shit.

Another sign of recovery.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#148529 Jan 16, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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What difference does that make? God could not simply forbid slavery as evil? God managed to find time to condemn eating shrimp as an abomination. Is God forced to conform to human custom? Who is in charge?
God forbade the long term ownership of individual slaves. The only culture in the entire world that had limits on how long you can force a person into slavery. Slaves of the Children of Abraham were promised freedom. A fact no other society embraced.

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#148530 Jan 16, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Hey Clementine, Will you be my slave?
Just for a little while.
Only if u massage my neck?

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#148531 Jan 16, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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God forbade the long term ownership of individual slaves. The only culture in the entire world that had limits on how long you can force a person into slavery. Slaves of the Children of Abraham were promised freedom. A fact no other society embraced.
Come on Eagle, that's pretty weak, don't you think? First of all, where in the Bible does it say all slaves "of the Children of Abraham" were promised eventual freedom? Secondly, but more importantly, slavery is OK if it's short-term? Really?

Slavery is NEVER OK, under ANY circumstances. PERIOD. I mean, does that really need to be said? Yet it's never said in the Bible. Quite the contrary; according to the Bible, a slave is a piece of property that you can beat to death.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#148532 Jan 16, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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Only if u massage my neck?
Looks like a go.

Eagle says only long-term slave ownership is prohibited.

I wonder what the limit is: Six months? A year?

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#148533 Jan 16, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Well, more specifically, Moses supposedly freed the *Jews* from Egyptian slavery. So it's OK to enslave some people, but not others.
Fun fact: there is actually no objective evidence that the Jews were ever systematically enslaved by the Egyptians, nor is there any evidence for a mass exodus of between 2-3 million people from Egypt either.
But what if the egyptians destroyed ALL the evidence? It could happen, u know.

“Move into the light.”

Since: Dec 10

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#148534 Jan 16, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Looks like a go.
Eagle says only long-term slave ownership is prohibited.
I wonder what the limit is: Six months? A year?

Depends on the contract, but you're the lawyer .
You shoudda knowed dat "scratches head".

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#148535 Jan 16, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Depends on the contract, but you're the lawyer .
You shoudda knowed dat "scratches head".
Contracts for slavery are what we in the law call contracts of adhesion. Not bargained at arm's length.

Besides, chattel can't enter into contracts.

Since: Oct 12

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#148536 Jan 16, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Looks like a go.
Eagle says only long-term slave ownership is prohibited.
I wonder what the limit is: Six months? A year?
What u on about, clever clog? what's a go?

Can't u keep a woman as your slave for 6 months, 6 weeks, 6 days, 6 hours, 6 mins, 6 secs etc... in Islam?

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#148537 Jan 16, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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But what if the egyptians destroyed ALL the evidence? It could happen, u know.
Some ultra-orthodox Jews even go so far as to assert that there was a secret Jewish sect who's job it was to comb through the desert and remove all traces of the Exodus, thus explaining why there is no evidence. I mean, hello? What would be the point of that?

But as to the Egyptians, why would they destroy all evidence of Jewish enslavement? They didn't destroy evidence that they enslaved other groups.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#148538 Jan 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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None of that was taken from wiki.
Besides, so what about his "pro-Christian" views, they were dishonest. Hitler was merely appealing to the stupid masses. You appear to have joined to crowd.
And you know this how?

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#148539 Jan 16, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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Eagle, God has the power to stop slavery, he could have made it illegal, you know.
But what i don't get is, how can the bible be for slavery if Moses freed the slaves?
The bible was against long term manditory slavery.

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