Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story
Serah

Australia

#148417 Jan 15, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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"Almost died" is not dead. We know why they see what they think they see, we have explained it. You ignore the facts simply because you hate your life so much you think you deserve another chance, or more of it. If you'd stop wasting time planning for something you "hope" exists and start living your life, you'd have a more fulfilling life.
Meant to add this but in my excitement at being alive, forgot to :)

***The book is full of people who have had near death experiences,(both positive and negative). Skeptics dismiss these near death experiences as the result of a oxygen-depraved mind, while Theologians think that often these people are seeing none other than Satan himself...(pg 47).

http://www.emjc3.com/helland.htm ***(same link as the other NDE's)

Obviously, I am not a skeptic, and obviously, you are!!
Serah

Australia

#148418 Jan 15, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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It really doesn't bother you that you are to be subjugated to men, can have any leadership roles, and can't even discuss Christian ideology?
I have since answered this.....
Serah

Australia

#148419 Jan 15, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Ephesians 5:21-24: "Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything."
Pretty clear, no?
You forgot this bit?

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

Ahhhh; you stopped at 24 LOL
Serah

Australia

#148420 Jan 15, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, well, if you're gonna pick and choose which of God's laws apply to you, so am I.
Good on you Mac, and so you should :)
Serah

Australia

#148421 Jan 15, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Apparently God really didn't know babies.
Of course, he never had one, so that might be excusable.
You presume GOD doesn't hear the screams.... yet Genesis 6:6 tells us a different story IMO
Serah

Australia

#148422 Jan 15, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>"Graven" means "carved" That's all.
"Image" means "picture or representation".
So, any carving of anything is out.
I don't idolize anything ~ there is no need when one holds GOD in their hearts :)
Serah

Australia

#148423 Jan 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Only if it's worshipped.
Exactly :)
Serah

Australia

#148424 Jan 15, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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I see. So you are supposed to love your wife while she subjugates herself completely to you. It's like slavery, but with a pretty bow on top.
You stopped one scripture short Wilderide :) You are supposed to be 'bound to each other' and of course, you would be aware that men and women are created differently?

***Women not only have a greater variety of cones in the retina, they also have wider peripheral vision than men.

As a nest defender, a woman has rain software that allows her to receive an arc of at least 45į clear vision to each side of her head and above and below her nose. Many womenís peripheral vision is effective up to almost 180į.

A manís eyes are configured for a type of long-distance tunnel vision which means which means that he can see clearly and accurately directly in front of him and over greater distances.

As a hunter, a man needed vision that would allow hime to zero in on, and pursue, targets in the distance. He evolved with almost blindered vision so that he would not be distracted from targets, whereas a woman needed eyes to allow a wide arc of vision so that she could monitor any predators sneaking up on the nest.

This is why modern men can find their way effortlessly to a distant pub, but can never find things in the fridge.

In the UK in 1997, there were 4,132 child pedestrians killed or injured on the roads, of which 2,640 were boys in 1,492 were girls. Boys takes more risks crossing the road than girls and this, combined with poorer peripheral vision, increases their injury rate.

Menís brains, being pre-wired for hunting, see a much narrower field.
Womenís brains decode information over a wider peripheral range because of their past defending the nest.

http://roman-online.net/node/82 ***

We each had our roles to play..... and we were both meant to play fair :)

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#148425 Jan 15, 2013
Serah wrote:
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If it is good enough for JESUS to send HIS Prophecies through Mary, a Woman, then it went further than that a couple of thousand years ago, and there should be no issue with it today.
John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
What does Mary have to do with fact that you are to be subservient to men?

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#148426 Jan 15, 2013
Serah wrote:
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You forgot this bit?
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Ahhhh; you stopped at 24 LOL
Does the fact that your master is supposed to love you make him any less of a master over you?

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#148427 Jan 15, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>You stopped one scripture short Wilderide :) You are supposed to be 'bound to each other' and of course, you would be aware that men and women are created differently?
***Women not only have a greater variety of cones in the retina, they also have wider peripheral vision than men.
As a nest defender, a woman has rain software that allows her to receive an arc of at least 45į clear vision to each side of her head and above and below her nose. Many womenís peripheral vision is effective up to almost 180į.
A manís eyes are configured for a type of long-distance tunnel vision which means which means that he can see clearly and accurately directly in front of him and over greater distances.
As a hunter, a man needed vision that would allow hime to zero in on, and pursue, targets in the distance. He evolved with almost blindered vision so that he would not be distracted from targets, whereas a woman needed eyes to allow a wide arc of vision so that she could monitor any predators sneaking up on the nest.
This is why modern men can find their way effortlessly to a distant pub, but can never find things in the fridge.
In the UK in 1997, there were 4,132 child pedestrians killed or injured on the roads, of which 2,640 were boys in 1,492 were girls. Boys takes more risks crossing the road than girls and this, combined with poorer peripheral vision, increases their injury rate.
Menís brains, being pre-wired for hunting, see a much narrower field.
Womenís brains decode information over a wider peripheral range because of their past defending the nest.
http://roman-online.net/node/82 ***
We each had our roles to play..... and we were both meant to play fair :)
Yes, you each have your roles to play. Your role being the subservient, subjugated one, according to the Bible. I really can't fathom that you are OK with that.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#148428 Jan 15, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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I'm better prepared when I do.
From my time on Topix here and thinking about it all, I have a suspicion the importance of religion is in planning for somewhere to go and do in the next transition. Like I said, I was a non-believer, and had nowhere to go. Can't say I have anything definite in mind, or even a religion, but maybe a better understanding when the time comes again.
Other than that, how's it going, Dave?
Serah

Australia

#148430 Jan 15, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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What does Mary have to do with fact that you are to be subservient to men?
I thought the Scripture would have had a bit more of an impact LOL; JESUS told Mary to go to the Disciples and pass on His message ~ as I said, if it is good enough for JESUS, well, it is good enough for me IMO
Serah

Australia

#148431 Jan 15, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Yes, you each have your roles to play. Your role being the subservient, subjugated one, according to the Bible. I really can't fathom that you are OK with that.
And the male (husband) should be loving, caring, protecting and also the provider of food.... No issues with that; just finding the man that fills the role is probably a tad hard :)

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#148434 Jan 15, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Other than that, how's it going, Dave?
About the same as it ever has. Had a hard ride on the perihelion, though. Getting real hard making that corner anymore.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#148435 Jan 15, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>And the male (husband) should be loving, caring, protecting and also the provider of food.... No issues with that; just finding the man that fills the role is probably a tad hard :)
Oh hell
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#148436 Jan 15, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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I'm better prepared when I do.
From my time on Topix here and thinking about it all, I have a suspicion the importance of religion is in planning for somewhere to go and do in the next transition. Like I said, I was a non-believer, and had nowhere to go. Can't say I have anything definite in mind, or even a religion, but maybe a better understanding when the time comes again.
Thank you. I admire your candor.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#148437 Jan 15, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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About the same as it ever has. Had a hard ride on the perihelion, though. Getting real hard making that corner anymore.
Had to look that up--perihelion.

It may be arthritis.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#148438 Jan 15, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Had to look that up--perihelion.
It may be arthritis.
More like the air fuel mixture is wrong. Ain't getting the acceleration I used to. Losing parts in between, so losing the momentum, too. Not a good corner for those sort of problems.

Time for a trade in.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#148439 Jan 15, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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More like the air fuel mixture is wrong. Ain't getting the acceleration I used to. Losing parts in between, so losing the momentum, too. Not a good corner for those sort of problems.
Time for a trade in.

Are you falling apart? I got some duct tape? lol

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