Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“I see quantum effects”

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#148528 Jan 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>It's supposed to sound like I'm sick n tired of writing the same shit over & over for you people.
At least you know it's shit.

Another sign of recovery.

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#148529 Jan 16, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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What difference does that make? God could not simply forbid slavery as evil? God managed to find time to condemn eating shrimp as an abomination. Is God forced to conform to human custom? Who is in charge?
God forbade the long term ownership of individual slaves. The only culture in the entire world that had limits on how long you can force a person into slavery. Slaves of the Children of Abraham were promised freedom. A fact no other society embraced.

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#148530 Jan 16, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Hey Clementine, Will you be my slave?
Just for a little while.
Only if u massage my neck?

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#148531 Jan 16, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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God forbade the long term ownership of individual slaves. The only culture in the entire world that had limits on how long you can force a person into slavery. Slaves of the Children of Abraham were promised freedom. A fact no other society embraced.
Come on Eagle, that's pretty weak, don't you think? First of all, where in the Bible does it say all slaves "of the Children of Abraham" were promised eventual freedom? Secondly, but more importantly, slavery is OK if it's short-term? Really?

Slavery is NEVER OK, under ANY circumstances. PERIOD. I mean, does that really need to be said? Yet it's never said in the Bible. Quite the contrary; according to the Bible, a slave is a piece of property that you can beat to death.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#148532 Jan 16, 2013
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>
Only if u massage my neck?
Looks like a go.

Eagle says only long-term slave ownership is prohibited.

I wonder what the limit is: Six months? A year?

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#148533 Jan 16, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Well, more specifically, Moses supposedly freed the *Jews* from Egyptian slavery. So it's OK to enslave some people, but not others.
Fun fact: there is actually no objective evidence that the Jews were ever systematically enslaved by the Egyptians, nor is there any evidence for a mass exodus of between 2-3 million people from Egypt either.
But what if the egyptians destroyed ALL the evidence? It could happen, u know.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#148534 Jan 16, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Looks like a go.
Eagle says only long-term slave ownership is prohibited.
I wonder what the limit is: Six months? A year?

Depends on the contract, but you're the lawyer .
You shoudda knowed dat "scratches head".

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#148535 Jan 16, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Depends on the contract, but you're the lawyer .
You shoudda knowed dat "scratches head".
Contracts for slavery are what we in the law call contracts of adhesion. Not bargained at arm's length.

Besides, chattel can't enter into contracts.

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#148536 Jan 16, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Looks like a go.
Eagle says only long-term slave ownership is prohibited.
I wonder what the limit is: Six months? A year?
What u on about, clever clog? what's a go?

Can't u keep a woman as your slave for 6 months, 6 weeks, 6 days, 6 hours, 6 mins, 6 secs etc... in Islam?

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#148537 Jan 16, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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But what if the egyptians destroyed ALL the evidence? It could happen, u know.
Some ultra-orthodox Jews even go so far as to assert that there was a secret Jewish sect who's job it was to comb through the desert and remove all traces of the Exodus, thus explaining why there is no evidence. I mean, hello? What would be the point of that?

But as to the Egyptians, why would they destroy all evidence of Jewish enslavement? They didn't destroy evidence that they enslaved other groups.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#148538 Jan 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
None of that was taken from wiki.
Besides, so what about his "pro-Christian" views, they were dishonest. Hitler was merely appealing to the stupid masses. You appear to have joined to crowd.
And you know this how?

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#148539 Jan 16, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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Eagle, God has the power to stop slavery, he could have made it illegal, you know.
But what i don't get is, how can the bible be for slavery if Moses freed the slaves?
The bible was against long term manditory slavery.

RiversideRedneck

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Since: Jul 12

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#148540 Jan 16, 2013
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
Come on Eagle, that's pretty weak, don't you think? First of all, where in the Bible does it say all slaves "of the Children of Abraham" were promised eventual freedom? Secondly, but more importantly, slavery is OK if it's short-term? Really?
Slavery is NEVER OK, under ANY circumstances. PERIOD. I mean, does that really need to be said? Yet it's never said in the Bible. Quite the contrary; according to the Bible, a slave is a piece of property that you can beat to death.
The bible didn't originally call them slaves, that's how it was translated. They were written as servants, not slaves.

The Hebrew word for slave is aebaed, the word for servant is ebbed. Similar words, but drug fervent meanings. Most if the original texts referred to servants(ebed), not slave (aebaed).

Did you know that ancient Hebrew law allowed someone to sell themselves to be a personal servant for a number if years? It was usually poverty-stricken men that needed work & had a family to feed.

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#148541 Jan 16, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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You must understand that this "Biblical History" is mythology.
But, be that as it may, what you are really saying is that either:
1 -- your deity did not realize that slavery was a bad thing and therefore never spoke out against it
OR
2 -- Christian morals have changed over time and you do not really use the Bible as you ultimate guide to morality.
OR
3 -- all of the above.
I do understand that you don’t believe the bible.

God was against long term mandatory slavery.

If you found yourself a slave of the Children of Israel. It was not for a lifetime but only for 7 years.

At the time slaves under Abrahams descendants were the only slaves in the word that were given freedom. A incentive for slave owners to treat their slaves well in hopes they stay on with the company.

Many slaves however decided to forgo their freedom after seven years and volunteer to continue to be unpaid servants. The incentive was there because the owners took care of their slaves.

You know, all expense paid vacations, use of the jet boat, get to drive the caddy, use of the company plane, access to the swimming pool, grand birthday parties, free access to the hunting lease, good food, new clothes, and free lodging.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#148542 Jan 16, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Some ultra-orthodox Jews even go so far as to assert that there was a secret Jewish sect who's job it was to comb through the desert and remove all traces of the Exodus, thus explaining why there is no evidence. I mean, hello? What would be the point of that?
But as to the Egyptians, why would they destroy all evidence of Jewish enslavement? They didn't destroy evidence that they enslaved other groups.
The term "Jew" comes from Judea, which existed after the Exodus. It would be like asking if Rome had any French slaves, knowing France came about well after Rome was destroyed...

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

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#148543 Jan 16, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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And you know this how?
Because that's what politicians do, appeal to the masses, tell them whatever they want to hear so they'll get elected.

Hitler was wanting to control a mostly Christian nation, so it's common sense for him to pretend to be Christian & doing "God's work". After he was elected, all those lies went away....

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#148544 Jan 16, 2013
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>
What u on about, clever clog? what's a go?
Can't u keep a woman as your slave for 6 months, 6 weeks, 6 days, 6 hours, 6 mins, 6 secs etc... in Islam?
You be my slave in exchange for neck massage (or any other choice of body part)!

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#148545 Jan 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
The bible didn't originally call them slaves, that's how it was translated. They were written as servants, not slaves.
The Hebrew word for slave is aebaed, the word for servant is ebbed. Similar words, but drug fervent meanings. Most if the original texts referred to servants(ebed), not slave (aebaed).
Did you know that ancient Hebrew law allowed someone to sell themselves to be a personal servant for a number if years? It was usually poverty-stricken men that needed work & had a family to feed.
Sorry RR, they were slaves. They were not paid, they were held against their will, and were bought and sold as property. That is what a slave is. And are you really suggesting that allowing desperate poor people the "opportunity" to enslave themselves as a good moral thing? Seriously? Dude, if so, your mores are seriously askew.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#148546 Jan 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
The term "Jew" comes from Judea, which existed after the Exodus. It would be like asking if Rome had any French slaves, knowing France came about well after Rome was destroyed...
Sorry, my bad. Hebrew. You were saying?

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#148547 Jan 16, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Some ultra-orthodox Jews even go so far as to assert that there was a secret Jewish sect who's job it was to comb through the desert and remove all traces of the Exodus, thus explaining why there is no evidence. I mean, hello? What would be the point of that?
But as to the Egyptians, why would they destroy all evidence of Jewish enslavement? They didn't destroy evidence that they enslaved other groups.
Lol, i have no idea, i was just joking.

Maybe, they didn't want people to know they got their ass kicked by God?

lol, i'm joking again.

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