Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#148359 Jan 15, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Global warming is a well-established scientific fact. And not because scientists say so, but because objective evidence over several disciplines do. Now, you could argue what the ramifications of climate change might be, but the phenomenon is happening.
I quite agree it is happening, but not with the reasons they state, and especially the money making opportunity they envision.

Pure and simple reasons. Two, actually. Much, much, much, much, much more EM emissions, which induces charges in all materials they pass through,and thus elevating temp, and direct deposit of greenhouse gases in the stratosphere by jets and rockets. Those are gases that wouldn't get there any other way. However, you will not see the aerospace or aviation industries take a hit to combat that.
Pat

Granby, CT

#148361 Jan 15, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>That's because you choose to ignore those who have almost died and been delivered back to their bodes. Out of body experiences, or NDE's ..... the corpse represents the Vessel that the Soul traveled in, and when the Soul departs the Vessel, it is empty and devoid of 'life' as we know it!
Rather you choose to deny that horse poop has been debunked long long ago. Magic magic magic!

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#148362 Jan 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I tries to be specific, but you may have missed something.
The bible teaches that women should not preach the bible to men, not that they are subserviant.
Ephesians 5:21-24: "Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything."

Pretty clear, no?

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#148363 Jan 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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They can teach children :)
Not Christian ideology.

Since: Sep 08

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#148364 Jan 15, 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_...

Note the oscillation, vibration, and rotation. This causes heat. Kinda stresses things.

Radios, TV's, microwaves, and all of those other frequencies except for infrared pretty much came from space before we started creating them locally. Full strength sources on a local level.

The sun's magnetic field is supposed to be about the strength of a refrigerator magnet, albeit a rather large one. A long ways distant. We have stronger magnets than that powering this planet locally.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#148366 Jan 15, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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I quite agree it is happening, but not with the reasons they state, and especially the money making opportunity they envision.
Pure and simple reasons. Two, actually. Much, much, much, much, much more EM emissions, which induces charges in all materials they pass through,and thus elevating temp, and direct deposit of greenhouse gases in the stratosphere by jets and rockets. Those are gases that wouldn't get there any other way. However, you will not see the aerospace or aviation industries take a hit to combat that.
Greenhouse gasses emitted into the air from the ground never rise up into the atmosphere? Huh?
Pat

Granby, CT

#148365 Jan 15, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You are obviously inattentive and unable to grasp things, perhaps a genetic defect.
My brain, or even yours, would be panicking like crazy when it sees the final curtain coming down. Didn't happen. Just having to move along. Be advised I just ate a dump truck pulling a bulldozer moments before. I was not dreaming. I've been under the knife and didn't remember a thing, but I recall that experience very well.
It boils down to if you believe meat makes the mind, or the mind makes the meat. If you are stuck on being a piece of stellar poop, then I will not argue with you, and certainly won't hold you in any special regard. You are just a piece of meat, just a bit warmer than that corpse you refer to.
You are assuming a lot about what happens just because a body ceases to function anymore. Here is something to think about. It is everyone else that has died, not you. Your "physical" proof is that a mechanism just ceased to exist, not a consciousness.
The walking dead like you are a drag on mankind. Man must aspire to something more than being just animated collections of molecules.
After many millenia of experience, mankind still refers to the spirit in each of us. Spirit is intangible. Non-physical, but very, very real.
You have no license for passing judgments or determining truths for others.
"If you are stuck on being a piece of stellar poop, then I will not argue with you, and certainly won't hold you in any special regard. You are just a piece of meat, just a bit warmer than that corpse you refer to."

Dave, your foolish inflated ego is showing...

"You are assuming a lot about what happens just because a body ceases to function anymore."

No Dave, you are. The function of your brain NEEDS your brain to exist, no different than the memory on your hard drive needs the hard drive to exist. Your five senses NEED a functioning brain to deliver the information to. These are not assumptions Dave, they are facts. We know what awareness is and awareness is not magic, it's the information gathered by your five senses and processed by your brain. Awareness is not an entity unto itself you foolish death denier.

"After many millenia of experience, mankind still refers to the spirit in each of us. Spirit is intangible. Non-physical, but very, very real."

Experience or ignorance and fear? Your ignorant baseless belief in ghosts may be real but the ghosts aren't. There is no knowledge of any ghosts so you can stop lying now.
Pat

Granby, CT

#148367 Jan 15, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Greenhouse gasses emitted into the air from the ground never rise up into the atmosphere? Huh?
Give the fool a break, he was creamed by a truck.

Since: Sep 08

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#148368 Jan 15, 2013
Put your hand on a running electric motor under load on even a cold day. Or a transformer, including some of those you plug into the wall. Or your laptop and even its power transformer. Most any power generating or using appliance.

What do you feel?

Heat.

That wouldn't have been there "naturally".

How many of those thingies do you think are cranked up in this world at this moment?

Trust me, carbon credits won't mitigate the phenomenon much. Could buy some neato mansions and vacations for some, though.

Since: Sep 08

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#148369 Jan 15, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Greenhouse gasses emitted into the air from the ground never rise up into the atmosphere? Huh?
They normally don't get into the stratosphere. That is a boundary layer.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#148370 Jan 15, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E lectromagnetic_spectrum#Ration ale
Note the oscillation, vibration, and rotation. This causes heat. Kinda stresses things.
Radios, TV's, microwaves, and all of those other frequencies except for infrared pretty much came from space before we started creating them locally. Full strength sources on a local level.
The sun's magnetic field is supposed to be about the strength of a refrigerator magnet, albeit a rather large one. A long ways distant. We have stronger magnets than that powering this planet locally.
Actually, it's not. That is just an over simplified explanation of how it works.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#148371 Jan 15, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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They normally don't get into the stratosphere. That is a boundary layer.
Erm, yes it does.

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#148372 Jan 15, 2013
Pat wrote:
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"If you are stuck on being a piece of stellar poop, then I will not argue with you, and certainly won't hold you in any special regard. You are just a piece of meat, just a bit warmer than that corpse you refer to."
Dave, your foolish inflated ego is showing...
"You are assuming a lot about what happens just because a body ceases to function anymore."
No Dave, you are. The function of your brain NEEDS your brain to exist, no different than the memory on your hard drive needs the hard drive to exist. Your five senses NEED a functioning brain to deliver the information to. These are not assumptions Dave, they are facts. We know what awareness is and awareness is not magic, it's the information gathered by your five senses and processed by your brain. Awareness is not an entity unto itself you foolish death denier.
"After many millenia of experience, mankind still refers to the spirit in each of us. Spirit is intangible. Non-physical, but very, very real."
Experience or ignorance and fear? Your ignorant baseless belief in ghosts may be real but the ghosts aren't. There is no knowledge of any ghosts so you can stop lying now.
:-)

Your time will come.

But you won't even remember me telling you this.

Your body in shock shuts off the processing of those senses. People vary in just how much shock it takes to do that. It is a potential reset state for the mind, dependent on the injury sustained. There is no way strict evolution can save such things in genes, as most tend to die exposed helpless to the elements and animals. Particularly if man evolved as proclaimed.

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#148373 Jan 15, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Actually, it's not. That is just an over simplified explanation of how it works.
Care to clarify your response more?

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

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#148374 Jan 15, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Cheers Mac, I'm happy following the 10, but we each seek that which makes us happy, if we are living a life to the fullest. And have you ever noticed that if you follow 10 simple rules, you will never upset anyone else? Amazing stuff; IMO
Oh, well, if you're gonna pick and choose which of God's laws apply to you, so am I.

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#148375 Jan 15, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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:-)
Your time will come.
But you won't even remember me telling you this.
Your body in shock shuts off the processing of those senses. People vary in just how much shock it takes to do that. It is a potential reset state for the mind, dependent on the injury sustained. There is no way strict evolution can save such things in genes, as most tend to die exposed helpless to the elements and animals. Particularly if man evolved as proclaimed.
evolution is a fact, only idiots deny facts.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#148376 Jan 15, 2013
Thinking wrote:
And Atheists. He's making loads of them, more every year.
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Yeah, us, too.

Hehehe.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#148377 Jan 15, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Aye and why does he make shrimp and lobster taste so Good?
Come to think of it, I've never had kid boiled in its mother's milk.

If Leviticus is equating that with Garlic Prawns, I gotta give it a try.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#148378 Jan 15, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Care to clarify your response more?
It's kinetic energy, "wave" and "vibration" is simply a description of kinetic energy. Since electromagnetic force is the most powerful it becomes a lot of kinetic energy when released, that is that "wave" from the source, the conversion of electromagnetic to kinetic. The frequency of the atomic structure, however, will cause different reactions to the kinetic force, this is because of the electromagnetic force in those atoms.

Heat is a measure of the presence of any and all energy, it's very vague, also very subjective. Even the Kelvin scale is not accurate for measuring energy, because of the various forms of energy, temperature can only tell how "excited" the atoms are.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#148379 Jan 15, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Do you think GOD told us not to eat on a day of the week, to look after our children, change their clothes, feed the animals etc etc? Do you think GOD wanted a baby to scream all day because it was hungry?
Man, you really don't know GOD!
Apparently God really didn't know babies.

Of course, he never had one, so that might be excusable.

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