Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#148155 Jan 14, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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I did sit back and reexamine my beliefs. I read the bible and realized that no loving god would be that evil.
I think he meant spiritual or religious (i.e. superstitious) beliefs.

It seems to me that when religionists use the word belief it is not belief in the general sense, as in "I believe this because and to this extent". They seem to mean that one consciously chooses to believe one thing instead of another. Also, religious belief is not a belief limited to the extent it is clearly supported by reason and evidence. It tends to be disproportionate or even absolute 'faith'.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#148156 Jan 14, 2013
In bob nobgobbler's case: "Scrotum, scrotum, scrotum, sore hide!"
River Tam wrote:
Scrollin, scrollin, scrollin.
From the scrotum, scrotum , scrotum.
I love this game.
:-)

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#148157 Jan 14, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>I think he meant spiritual or religious (i.e. superstitious) beliefs.
It seems to me that when religionists use the word belief it is not belief in the general sense, as in "I believe this because and to this extent". They seem to mean that one consciously chooses to believe one thing instead of another. Also, religious belief is not a belief limited to the extent it is clearly supported by reason and evidence. It tends to be disproportionate or even absolute 'faith'.
Yes, I was once a christian and had such faith; then one Sunday,I ignored the preacher, continued to read the bible after he stopped. I found those laws of god's that no christian wants to talk about or follow.

Such as, god hates gays, but he is cool with me eating shellfish.

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#148158 Jan 14, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Just checking. Does that include my vibrator? Cuz........
If you need to believe your vibrator is a God, then you believe it.... Cuz otherwise.....

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#148159 Jan 14, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Oh, you mean like the time I drank too much? Yeah, still just hallucinations, though I couldn't tell the difference at the time ... that was until I actually saw the video recording of what really happened.
But then, I'm smart enough to actually, well ... pay attention. At least when I'm not drunk.
You are smart enough to pay attention? Sorry dude, but you are painting the wrong picture to be smart enough to have paid much attention, if you get my driftwood!!

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#148160 Jan 14, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Yes, I was once a christian and had such faith; then one Sunday,I ignored the preacher, continued to read the bible after he stopped. I found those laws of god's that no christian wants to talk about or follow.
Such as, god hates gays, but he is cool with me eating shellfish.
Hmm.

If god hates gays - why does he keep makin''em?

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#148161 Jan 14, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, your bible claims at least 613 commandments...
http://www.aish.com/h/sh/se/48945081.html
Cheers Mac, I'm happy following the 10, but we each seek that which makes us happy, if we are living a life to the fullest. And have you ever noticed that if you follow 10 simple rules, you will never upset anyone else? Amazing stuff; IMO

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#148162 Jan 14, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
How about thou shalt now have slaves?
Thou shalt not descriminate?
Thou shalt not commit violent crimes?
Thou shalt not rape?
Thou shalt not commit incest?
Thou shalt not force thy beliefs upon others?
Thou shalt not halt progress?
Thou shalt not sexually assault children?
Thou shalt not harm or kill others in the name of thy God?
And the list goes on.
<quoted text>
Read the 10 Commandments again....

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#148163 Jan 14, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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One, you do not follow the 10 statutes of god. You do not keep the sabbath holy, as he demanded. You only keep what you think is right.
I keep every day Holy ~ I don't lie, don't steal, don't covet anything my neighbours might own, believe in one GOD, honor my Spiritual Parents, don't have any false idols etc etc etc....

Why should only 1 day a week be Holy?

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#148164 Jan 14, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Hmm.
If god hates gays - why does he keep makin''em?
Good Question Mac, ever wondered why the numbers are increasing as they are? Were the closets always jam packed and now they are empty or is something happening with their DNA? Damn good question.... didn't think you would have given it much thought though, for some reason.

Oh wait? Are you being sarcastic here?? That makes sense; LOL :)

Since: Mar 11

United States

#148165 Jan 14, 2013
I know them by heart and none of them cover what I just presented. Answer those do you agree of disagree. Thou shalt not commit incest. Uh oh several of your bible heroes would be in trouble on that one! Bible heroes loved them some daughter fcking eh Lot? ;))
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>
Read the 10 Commandments again....
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#148166 Jan 14, 2013
And guess where you can stick your god!
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>If you need to believe your vibrator is a God, then you believe it.... Cuz otherwise.....
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#148167 Jan 14, 2013
And Atheists. He's making loads of them, more every year.
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Hmm.
If god hates gays - why does he keep makin''em?
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#148168 Jan 14, 2013
The 10 commandments allow child abuse and slavery.
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>I keep every day Holy ~ I don't lie, don't steal, don't covet anything my neighbours might own, believe in one GOD, honor my Spiritual Parents, don't have any false idols etc etc etc....
Why should only 1 day a week be Holy?
Lincoln

United States

#148171 Jan 14, 2013
Thinking wrote:
The 10 commandments allow child abuse and slavery.
<quoted text>
as did the Original
Constitution of the US 1789.

Slavery protected !

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#148172 Jan 14, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
as did the Original
Constitution of the US 1789.
Slavery protected !
Isn't it beautiful when things change. We can learn and grow. Religion tries to stop it but it can't... thank god. Pun intended

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#148173 Jan 14, 2013
Not o mention raping 12 year old girls and selling your daughter to the highest bidder. Oh those wacky Hebrews!
Thinking wrote:
The 10 commandments allow child abuse and slavery.
<quoted text>
Lincoln

United States

#148174 Jan 14, 2013
EmpAtheist wrote:
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Isn't it beautiful when things change. We can learn and grow. Religion tries to stop it but it can't... thank God. Pun intended
Watch PBS series The Abolitionists?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/fi...
I am not a Christian fundamentalist but a lot of abolitionists were.

The Abolitionists will be shown in public school classes on dvd.

Excellent series.

Shows John Brown in Church dedicating his life to abolishing slavery.

Enjoy!

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#148175 Jan 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:

What people?
Care about what?
If you can't be specific, shut up.
TheBlackSheep wrote:
LOL!
Well, at least you shut up.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#148176 Jan 14, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Hmm.
If god hates gays - why does he keep makin''em?
He doesn't.

They choose.

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