Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

[ChristineM]

Lincoln wrote:

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In 20th century atheist in power murdered millions. As a result turning to atheism is not an easy solution.
Hitler,
Stalin,
Lenin,
Castro,
Trotsky,
Kamenev,
Zinoviev
Mao,
Himler,
Eichmann
all examples of atheists not to be trusted,

Hitler, christian all his life, he murdered millions of jews because he believed that the Jews were responsible for christ’s death
Stalin, raised christian and tipped for the priesthood before taking the job as national despot
Lenin, Atheist
Castro, Agreed that the state and church should be separate but was educated as a christian in catholic boarding school and was sympathetic to the church.
Trotsky, Jewish but not religious, raised in Jewish family tradition
Kamenev, Athiest,
Zinoviev Belief that religion should be personal and private
Mao, Educated as in a catholic school as a catholic
Himler, Roman catholic but desired the restoration of paganism
Eichmann Protestant christian

[Adam]

Lincoln wrote:

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..As a result turning to atheism is not an easy solution.
Hitler,
..

Read this for an explanation as to why Hitler was not an Atheist:
http://www.evilbible.com/hitler_was_christian...

[Lincoln]

ChristineM wrote:

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Hitler, christian all his life, he murdered millions of jews because he believed that the Jews were responsible for christ’s death
Stalin, raised christian and tipped for the priesthood before taking the job as national despot
Lenin, Atheist
Castro, Agreed that the state and church should be separate but was educated as a christian in catholic boarding school and was sympathetic to the church.
Trotsky, Jewish but not religious, raised in Jewish family tradition
Kamenev, Athiest,
Zinoviev Belief that religion should be personal and private
Mao, Educated as in a catholic school as a catholic
Himler, Roman catholic but desired the restoration of paganism
Eichmann Protestant christian

Atheists like to believe the Nazis were Christian!
:-)

[ChristineM]

Lincoln wrote:

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Atheists like to believe the Nazis were Christian!
:-)

So do facts

Delusion and lies does not make any difference to facts

The Nazi party was a christian party headed by a staunch christen. Because modern day christians want to distance themselves from the stigma of the horrors they caused (in the name of christianity) they claim (lie for their god) that the Nazis and Hitler were not christian

Facts, documents and of course the links of the Nazi party to the catholic church etc prove otherwise

[Thinking]

It's not a matter of like or dislike. It's the truth.

The truth is Hitler was the catholic leader of a mainly protestant Germany.

Lincoln wrote:

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Atheists like to believe the Nazis were Christian!
:-)

[River Tam]

Lincoln wrote:

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In 20th century atheist in power murdered millions. As a result turning to atheism is not an easy solution.
Hitler,
Stalin,
Lenin,
Castro,
Trotsky,
Kamenev,
Zinoviev
Mao,
Himler,
Eichmann
all examples of atheists not to be trusted,

Why do you include christians in your list. Just being fair? Good job.

[macumazahn]

Lincoln wrote:

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Atheists like to believe the Nazis were Christian!
:-)

Christians hysterically deny that most of 'em were.

[Hidingfromyou]

polymath257 wrote:

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That the universe is expanding from a hot, dense state.
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No, that is not part of the theory of evolution.
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That biological species change over geological time.
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This is false. We have watched new species of mosquito evolve in the London train tunnels. We have produced reproductively isolate populations of fruit flies (counting as new species by the standard definition of species).
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Oh, I *know* that some people put religion first. Such people tend not to be scientists because they can't handle the evidence-based and skeptical aspects of science.
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Well, I consider *any* belief in a supernatural to be superstitious. Belief in the absence of evidence (or, better, when there is contrary evidence) is ignorant.

And an amoeba and its bacteria parasite coevolved into a symbiote - in 1972, in the lab. And E. coli evolved to digest citrate - citrate!- in the lab, after 5 years, just recently (so it's a new species).

And we've monitored the evolution of finches on Galapagos over the decades. And the 11 rabbits that were released in Australia 150 years ago are now 4 separate species.

Tuberculosis evolved MultiDrug Resistance about 20-30 years ago and 2 years ago, Total Drug Resistance. HIV evolved around two generations ago from SIV...twice...from different species...and, in humans, it has evolved a third full strain plus a number of sub-strains.

Those are just the ones I can list off the top of my head. If we include genetic data, the list increases. If we include morphological (fossil) data, well...yeah, it proves evolution. Only an uneducated person or an abject idiot would reject evolution.

Which is what we're dealing with here *-*

[Aerobatty]

Lincoln wrote:

<quoted text>Denial does not help!

In 20th century atheist in power murdered millions. As a result turning to atheism is not an easy solution.
Hitler,
Stalin,
Lenin,
Castro,
Trotsky,
Kamenev,
Zinoviev
Mao,
Himler,
Eichmann
all examples of atheists not to be trusted,

*

That's the list of theists to be trusted.

[Lincoln]

ChristineM wrote:

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So do facts
Delusion and lies does not make any difference to facts
The Nazi party was a.........

Show up in a university class devoted to World War II and tell the class that your have discovered the Nazis were Christians :-)

Should be fun

[Lincoln]

ChristineM wrote:

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Hitler, Christian all his life.....

Thats interesting, Hitler .... gassing priests and nuns.
World War II, Sept 1 1939 Invasion of Poland;ended in 1945.

Several books on this, not difficult to read....

[Hedonist]

Lincoln wrote:

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Atheists like to believe the Nazis were Christian!
:-)

Hitler also had a mustache. I think it was the mustache that caused him to commit his atrocities. You got any real evidence that it was specifically because of atheism and not his mustache, or are you just making stuff up?

Gott Mit Uns

[Aura Mytha]

Lincoln wrote:

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Show up in a university class devoted to World War II and tell the class that your have discovered the Nazis were Christians :-)
Should be fun

You were never at any of them.

[Mikko]

Lincoln wrote:

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Thats interesting, Hitler .... gassing priests and nuns.
World War II, Sept 1 1939 Invasion of Poland;ended in 1945.
Several books on this, not difficult to read....

We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.

- Adolf Hitler, Speech in Berlin, October 24, 1933

[RiversideRedneck]

Aura Mytha wrote:

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Not supposed it is clear and can be shown definitively in series from the first bacteria to microbes then proto- prokaryotes evolved into prokaryotes then the split between bacteria and archaea life happened, next Photosynthesizing cyanobacteria formed stromatolites and produced enough oxygen that the atmosphere like today developed.
In what is called The Great Oxidation Event gave rise to Eukaryotic cells which made the stromatolites increase in diversity and Sexual reproduction in organisms now appear. Next Simple multicellular organisms evolve creating protozoa then a period of ice called "Snowball Earth" happened but as the Earth warmed the The Ediacaran biota appears then extinction recovers to
form the Cambrian explosion. where the first fungus and sea sponges
and corals develop, next chordates, arthropods ,echinoderms, mollusks, brachiopods, foraminifers and radiolarians, appear with the first foot prints on land. 550 mya today.
There is a steady stream in the evolution of organisms from this point on which is highly documented.

That's a fantastic theory!

[RiversideRedneck]

Freebird USA wrote:

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Here is something related to your point. Al Gore high priest of Global Warming sells his little cable channel to Al Jazeera and pockets $100,000,000. Who is the major stake holder in Al Jazerra? The Oil rich royal family of Qatar. Al is a phony of the highest order.

Very good, thanks!

[Freebird USA]

madscot wrote:

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So what? Are you saying that Fox news gets of free while Current are muslim loving money grubbers? I'll take Qattar over KSA any day.

You can excuse an behavior s long as they share your ideology,can't you?

[KittenKoder]

Lincoln wrote:

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Atheists like to believe the Nazis were Christian!
:-)

No belief, they announced it themselves with loudspeakers and slogans on their uniforms.

[polymath257]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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That's a fantastic theory!

yes, it is. And it agrees with the evidence.

[Freebird USA]

madscot wrote:

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No it wasn't. Power and control was THE motivating factor. Eliminating all threats.

Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism.
Vladimir Lenin

If those using the church and religion were motivated by power and control and committed atrocities frequently mentioned this is their mirror image.

Lenin used atheism as a tool,his motivation being power and control. If one doesn't care for judging all Atheists by Lenins actions one should afford Christians the same courtesy.