Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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UIDIOTRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
Alan Cantwell, MD
There is no question that HIV was introduced into the U.S. male homosexual population via the gay hepatitis B vaccine experiment that took place between 1978 and 1981... Not surprisingly, the government has refused to release data on the number of AIDS deaths that have occured in the large group of gay men who initially volunteered for the vaccine experiment.
Mmmmh; JOB is one of my favourite Chapters in the Bible;

Job 12:7-10

King James Version (KJV)


7 But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:

8 Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.

9 Who knoweth not in all these that the hand of the Lord hath wrought this?

10 In whose hand is the soul of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind.

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***As children, many of us learn about the wondrous process by which a caterpillar morphs into a butterfly. The story usually begins with a very hungry caterpillar hatching from an egg. The caterpillar, or what is more scientifically termed a larva, stuffs itself with leaves, growing plumper and longer through a series of molts in which it sheds its skin. One day, the caterpillar stops eating, hangs upside down from a twig or leaf and spins itself a silky cocoon or molts into a shiny chrysalis. Within its protective casing, the caterpillar radically transforms its body, eventually emerging as a butterfly or moth.

But what does that radical transformation entail? How does a caterpillar rearrange itself into a butterfly? What happens inside a chrysalis or cocoon?

First, the caterpillar digests itself, releasing enzymes to dissolve all of its tissues. If you were to cut open a cocoon or chrysalis at just the right time, caterpillar soup would ooze out. But the contents of the pupa are not entirely an amorphous mess. Certain highly organized groups of cells known as imaginal discs survive the digestive process. Before hatching, when a caterpillar is still developing inside its egg, it grows an imaginal disc for each of the adult body parts it will need as a mature butterfly or moth—discs for its eyes, for its wings, its legs and so on. In some species, these imaginal discs remain dormant throughout the caterpillar's life; in other species, the discs begin to take the shape of adult body parts even before the caterpillar forms a chrysalis or cocoon. Some caterpillars walk around with tiny rudimentary wings tucked inside their bodies, though you would never know it by looking at them.

Once a caterpillar has disintegrated all of its tissues except for the imaginal discs, those discs use the protein-rich soup all around them to fuel the rapid cell division required to form the wings, antennae, legs, eyes, genitals and all the other features of an adult butterfly or moth. The imaginal disc for a fruit fly's wing, for example, might begin with only 50 cells and increase to more than 50,000 cells by the end of metamorphosis. Depending on the species, certain caterpillar muscles and sections of the nervous system are largely preserved in the adult butterfly. One study even suggests that moths remember what they learned in later stages of their lives as caterpillars.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm... ***

Should we learn from the Butterfly that we are here to nourish ourselves getting ready for the time when we give up the energy that is us, and take that energy into the new stage of our lives? Spiritual nourishment would be a must, in my eyes at least, because it is the Spiritual that will move into the next Realm, and the body that will return to the earth - ashes to ashes and dust to dust!!

We need the nutrients of the earth to survive, that has been proven, and in reality, and as proven by many different villages, it is all that is needed to live a long and useful life.

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UIDIOTRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
Our US scientists should take course on Moral/Human ethics 101...
Justice Department attorney John Loftus in his 1982 book "The Belarus Secret"
Nazi germ warfare scientists came to America [and] experimented with poison ticks dropped from planes to spread rare diseases... the US. tested some of these poison ticks on the Plum Island artillery range off the coast of Connecticut during the early 1950s.
... Plum Island was experimenting with Lone Star ticks and the Cayenne tick, feeding them on viruses and testing them on pigs in 1975 and 1976--exactly when Lyme disease first showed up across from the island. At that time, the Lone Star tick was otherwise only found in Texas. Nobody can explain how it's happened to migrate all across the Eastern seaboard. Along with its cousin, the deer tick, the Lone Star variety is known for spreading Lyme disease.
... Germ labs like Plum Island pose a bigger threat to our country than any terrorgroup... Lyme disease ... is the fastest-growing infectious illness in America after AIDS.
It has reached Australia, although they are in denial here, so we have had to send people to America for treatment. It is horrible and leaves awful after affects. We don't have tick problems in Australia, but I would imagine we soon will have if we are already experiencing the disease. They have done some amazingly stupid stuff bringing out things to kill off natural things, then bringing over things to try and kill off the problem they created. Ond of those big stupid mistakes was introducing the Cane Toad...

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******Cane Toads are native to Central and South America. They were first introduced to Australia in 1935 when more than 3000 individuals were released into sugar cane plantations in northern Queensland. They were released as a means of controlling the introduced French’s Cane Beetle and the Greyback Cane Beetle, which were causing significant damage to sugar cane crops. Unfortunately, the Cane Toad did not control the insects and went on to become one of Australia’s most highly invasive species, currently occupying over 500,000km² of Australian mainland, with densities reaching up to 2,000 toads per hectare when Cane Toads first colonize a new area.
Current Distribution
In recent years, Cane Toads have spread rapidly throughout northern Australia. They are now located within Queensland, New South Wales, the Northern Territory, and there have been recent sightings just over the border in Western Australia.

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The Cane Toad was first sighted in the Northern Territory in 1984. By 2001 the toads had reached southern Kakadu National Park and were in the river catchments surrounding the Park. By 2004-2005 they were detected in Darwin. Since their arrival in the Darwin region there has been greater interest from the community regarding Cane Toads.
Considerable activity has been invested in preventing Cane Toads from spreading into Western Australia. Since September 2005, the ‘Kimberley Toad Busters’ have spent a substantial amount of time collecting eggs, hatchlings, juveniles and adult Cane Toads. Areas in the western Top End, have been targeted during the early wet and early dry seasons. Between 2005 and 2008 the group has collected almost 343,000 adult Cane Toads. Toad cage traps and toad-proof fence-lines have also been installed by FrogWatch in some locations within the area. It appears the spread of Cane Toads towards Western Australia has slowed down considerably, but it has not yet been stopped.
Cane Toads have managed to colonize some of the Northern Territory’s off-shore islands. For example, in the Gulf of Carpentaria, the Sir Edward Pellew Islands had their first recording of toads after the McArthur River flooded in 2001. It is believed the toads were washed out to sea on flood waters and some were washed right onto the shores of these islands. Protection of islands from all invasive species has become a priority for the NT Government.
Ability to Survive
Three primary reasons as to why Cane Toads have had considerable invasion success are because they can tolerate a wide range of environmental conditions, they are prolific breeders and they can be long-lived. Cane Toads are found in coastal heath and sand dune habitats along with on the margins of rainforests and in amongst the mangroves. They are found both in urban areas and out bush in grassland and woodland country. The ability of Cane Toads to breed and multiply is considerable with females producing 8,000 to 35,000 eggs at a time. Breeding occurs at least twice a year and normally takes place between June and January. In the right conditions they can breed throughout the year. Cane Toads will lay eggs in slow-moving freshwater streams and dams as well as in brackish water and temporary puddles. Tadpoles will hatch between 48 and 72 hours after being laid and, depending on the temperature and food availability, they will change into toads in 17 to 180 days. Toads grow particularly quickly in the tropics and can reach sexual maturity within one year. In captivity toads have been able to survive for up to 15 years. In the wild they have been known to breed for up to five years.
Cane Toads also have many other attributes which help them to survive so well. They are opportunistic, omnivorous feeders, and their diet comprises both living and dead matter such as plants, carrion, dog food, excreta of other animals, household refuse, small vertebrates, and a range of invertebrates. Other characteristics that add to their invasion success both in Australia and in other locations include their capacity to live for reasonable periods of time away from water, their ability to tolerate sea water for short periods, and their nocturnal activity. In their native countries, Cane Toads have diseases and parasites which keep their numbers under control, however these diseases and parasites are absent from Australia.
http://lrm.nt.gov.au/biodiversity-conservatio... *******

They are killing off our frogs and other species, and even crocodiles are dying when they eat them. We don't have anything here to kill them... we don't have those diseases and parasites, yet!!

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madscot wrote:
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Which pretty much renders it meaningless. Therefore, may be dismissed
By that standard any statement attibuted to anyone can be dismissed as meaningless by virtue of any percieved confusion over the meaning of their words.How convenient.

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Gracing us with your tremendous ignorance I see. I hear your god has burning little girl air freshener spray, it is his favorite scent according to your bible.
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<quoted text>Imagination overboard LOL!! Still can't explain how a chicken became a chicken or a rooster became a rooster and that the chicken can produce eggs, but the rooster can't!! But they have proved that the chicken came before the egg! And why some birds fly but others can't! Evolution is supposed to be the ability to adapt to survive the dangers presented to each species, and yet the Lion has not overcome man(kind) and nor has the Elephant, all of which also evolved from the same 'original' life form as per that posting. And they think I am silly!!!

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Castro is a devout believer and name the millions killed by Lenin,Trotsky? Are you seriously this stupid? Shut off the Fox News.
Lincoln wrote:
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"You are going for showers" the Nazi told the people being gassed.
You believe the Nazis?
A group of atheists in power who murdered millions.
Stalin,
Lenin,
Castro,
Trotsky,
Kamenev,
Zinoviev,
Khrushchev
Brezhnev
Mao,
Removed your faux Christian Nazis :-)

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You should have listened to double fine because you are really making a jackass out of yourself and I think it's from your self admitted mental illness. You have borderline personality disorder I would bet.

You rely way to heavily on these made up (lies) emotional claims of yours. Get help get on your medication and maybe even check yourself back into the mental ward. No really you should because we are watching you melt down.
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<quoted text>Absolutely disagree with you ~ to try not to work out what is meant from the Cryptic words of the Bible into what is happening to day is not worshiping forever as you think of it.
It is research and comprehension and seeking that which we want to find. My life has been absolutely filled with amazing things and yet my life should have been miserable. I have written on a book on why my life should have been miserable, but have proved why it wasn't miserable but GOD enhanced.
You judge me as a fool, and yet from a child of 8 I was helping an old lady who was in her 80's, and in return, I was given a Shetland Pony, Fury, and I have many tales to tell about that horse.
She died sitting in the ward of emergency at the hospital, of a massive heart attack. I was heart broken, and can still feel the pain of thinking of 'Nan' dying in her wheel chair, maybe alone.
Nearly 50 years later, my Mother unexpectedly died in my arms in the emergency room of a hospital, of a massive heart attack. That was June 9th this year and why I went to Peterborough to visit the graves of my loved ones.
I was ridiculed for caring for a Sister who had been burned to death ~ and jokes were told and laughed about her rotting in the ground.
I love GOD ~ and JESUS and the ANGELS, and thank GOD continually that I am not like those who can joke about 2.5 year old girls being burned to death by boys playing with matches.
However, I have a dried rose that I received when I went to see Anthony, our equivalent to John Edwards, and received messages from my Sister that were also proven, because I had not known what he told me, but it was proved by my Mother later on the phone.
I was also told that her short life was a sacrifice, and that she did it to be further Spiritually enhanced in her next life; a life you don't believe in.
I seek that knowledge and find it; you deny it and lose it!! And you have lost it, because everyone has it!!

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That's why you don't take your psychiatric medication because the voices tell you they're all these evil poisonous pills trying to take the angel voices out of your head.

Get help screwball
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<quoted text>Yep, and that's why I trust the original script!
***Thalidomide, Class Action - Slater & Gordon Lawyers
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Thalidomide Class Action - The release of thalidomide in the 1950s and 1960s led to the world's most publicised pharmaceutical disaster
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This one was a beauty wasn't it??

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Freebird USA wrote:
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Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism.
Vladimir Lenin
If those using the church and religion were motivated by power and control and committed atrocities frequently mentioned this is their mirror image.
Lenin used atheism as a tool,his motivation being power and control. If one doesn't care for judging all Atheists by Lenins actions one should afford Christians the same courtesy.
Here we agree. People of today are responsible for their own actions, not those of previous generations even of those who shared some aspects of one ideology or the other. While we can and should--must--learn from the past, using elements of it to denigrate people today is nothing more than a pseudo intellectual variation of childish playground taunting. This whole argument about which monsters of the past were atheists and which were believers is nothing more or less than a childish exercise in shoveling hoseshit and flinging it back and forth at each other. Can't we all grow up just a little bit? Can't we talk about things that actually have meaning?

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You are certainly willing to learn, there is no doubt about that.
As for compromise, you should never compromise with a delusion, other than that, it's a good way to live. ;)
I lost all respect for most of the Atheists on here. They slam the fundie for not looking at the facts, basing their beliefs on feelings and indoctrination; and then they do the same damn thing.

Have a good one, KK!
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"that's why you don't take your psychiatric medication...

seems the typical post when
the poster has lost.:-)

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Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Imagination overboard LOL!! Still can't explain how a chicken became a chicken or a rooster became a rooster and that the chicken can produce eggs, but the rooster can't!! But they have proved that the chicken came before the egg! And why some birds fly but others can't! Evolution is supposed to be the ability to adapt to survive the dangers presented to each species, and yet the Lion has not overcome man(kind) and nor has the Elephant, all of which also evolved from the same 'original' life form as per that posting. And they think I am silly!!!
It seems more likely to me that whatever species eventually evolved into chickens was laying eggs long before that happened. Roosters are chickens, as are hens. I'd have to look into it, but I suspect that the difference is the same as with humans, i.e., XY as opposed to XX genotypes and that fertilizing hens rather than laying eggs is just a variant on the two roles in human reproduction.

Except for species that were modified by human breeding techniques, birds that can't fly have other have other attributes that allowed their species to thrive in the conditions in which they evolved.

Species don't need to overcome one another, only to survive and propagate.

You're not silly so much as unlearned. If a relatively uneducated musician can answer these questions so easily, why can't you?

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Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Doubt it .... I do read up on it and where the scientists are with their findings!! Do you? If you do, then feel qualified to comment, but of course, have some links to back you up, otherwise people will call you an idiot, or something similar!!
***Which came first, the chicken or the egg - MSNBC.com
www.msnbc.msn.com/...science-science/.../whic... -...- United States
14 Jul 2010 – "It had long been suspected that the egg came first but now we have the scientific proof that shows that in fact the chicken came first,"***
Scientists are allowed to change their minds; they can kill us with their drugs and chemicals, and they have and still do, and it is put down to progress.
They are only learning what was known in the first place! And if you don't think that evolutionists believe that every life form we see evolved from the first organism, then debate it with them.
And if you don't think Darwin's theory was evolution was prevention of extinction, what do you think it is? And if you have no thoughts, don't even consider yourself 'ignorant' on the subject, you are not even that competent to be called ignorant.
The article is absurd. If "a protein found only in a chicken's ovaries is necessary for the formation of the egg," then only chickens should be able to lay eggs. So are all birds chickens? Were the dinosaurs that laid eggs with similar shells actually chickens? I was rather surprised that the dateline on the article was not April 1. Too many species that are definitively NOT chickens lay eggs with shells for this article to be true.

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Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Duh ~ that is exactly why I have never had one .... I AM protecting it! Or didn't you read that bit???
And spam? That's not spam, that is proving that I am not an ignoramus about the topics that someone called me ignorant on. If one lays down the gauntlet like that, then they can expect links to back up what I have said.
You all know the stuff, and take no notice of it.... you probably drink things that have the 950's in them! Or some 230's... some charming stuff. DNA stuffing up stuff
With all due respect, the articles you've posted don't add to your credibility at all. The pattern--or lack of on--in the articles you cite implies that you believe articles too easily, ranging from legitimate science to junk science and seem unable to distinguish the difference between the two. You would benefit from greater skepticism and a more rigorous methodology in evaluating what you read.
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PRINCETON, NJ -- More than 9 in 10 Americans still say "yes" when asked the basic question "Do you believe in God?"; this is down only slightly from the 1940s, when Gallup first asked this question.

Despite the many changes that have rippled through American society over the last 6 ½ decades, belief in God as measured in this direct way has remained high and relatively stable. Gallup initially used this question wording in November 1944, when 96% said "yes." That percentage dropped to 94% in 1947, but increased to 98% in several Gallup surveys conducted in the 1950s and 1960s. Gallup stopped using this question format in the 1960s, before including it again in Gallup's May 5-8 survey this year."

Secularism remains a potent force
christianity is EVIL

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NightSerf wrote:
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With all due respect, the articles you've posted don't add to your credibility at all. The pattern--or lack of on--in the articles you cite implies that you believe articles too easily, ranging from legitimate science to junk science and seem unable to distinguish the difference between the two. You would benefit from greater skepticism and a more rigorous methodology in evaluating what you read.
That's my point ~ how often and how regularly things change..... and whether or not you think it is legitimate, you are probably partaking in their killer chemicals.

And with all due respect to you too, at least you had the sense to realise I was posting stuff written by scientists, where as some of the posters in here thought it was my own stuff.

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