Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#147921 Jan 11, 2013
Freebird USA wrote:
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Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism.
Vladimir Lenin
If those using the church and religion were motivated by power and control and committed atrocities frequently mentioned this is their mirror image.
Lenin used atheism as a tool,his motivation being power and control. If one doesn't care for judging all Atheists by Lenins actions one should afford Christians the same courtesy.

Please we already have a measure to go by.

It was called the "dark ages".

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#147922 Jan 11, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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That's a fantastic theory!
Imagination overboard LOL!! Still can't explain how a chicken became a chicken or a rooster became a rooster and that the chicken can produce eggs, but the rooster can't!! But they have proved that the chicken came before the egg! And why some birds fly but others can't! Evolution is supposed to be the ability to adapt to survive the dangers presented to each species, and yet the Lion has not overcome man(kind) and nor has the Elephant, all of which also evolved from the same 'original' life form as per that posting. And they think I am silly!!!

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#147923 Jan 11, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Please we already have a measure to go by.
It was called the "dark ages".
And some people are stuck in it :)

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#147924 Jan 11, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Thats interesting, Hitler .... gassing priests and nuns.
World War II, Sept 1 1939 Invasion of Poland;ended in 1945.
Several books on this, not difficult to read....
He only liked blonde haired, blue eyed Christians LOL ~ not that they matched the looks of JESUS!! Ha Ha, people have no idea that to be a Christian is to be Christ like in attitude towards oneself and man(kind) and Thou Shalt Not Kill is a Statute of GOD!! Easy to overlook the obvious when being ridiculous :)

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#147925 Jan 11, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Imagination overboard LOL!! Still can't explain how a chicken became a chicken or a rooster became a rooster and that the chicken can produce eggs, but the rooster can't!! But they have proved that the chicken came before the egg! And why some birds fly but others can't! Evolution is supposed to be the ability to adapt to survive the dangers presented to each species, and yet the Lion has not overcome man(kind) and nor has the Elephant, all of which also evolved from the same 'original' life form as per that posting. And they think I am silly!!!
People only think you're silly when you post things like the above. I'm an atheist but I don't get too involved in Evolution Theory debates. Do you know why? I really don't know enough about it. You and I are equally ignorant in that respect.
Lincoln

United States

#147926 Jan 11, 2013
Mikko wrote:
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We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.
- Adolf Hitler, Speech in Berlin, October 24, 1933
You quote Hitler.
Do you believe him?
:-)

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#147927 Jan 11, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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People only think you're silly when you post things like the above. I'm an atheist but I don't get too involved in Evolution Theory debates. Do you know why? I really don't know enough about it. You and I are equally ignorant in that respect.
I'd be careful how you throw around the "e" word.

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#147928 Jan 11, 2013
Serah wrote:
Imagination overboard LOL!! Still can't explain how a chicken became a chicken or a rooster became a rooster and that the chicken can produce eggs, but the rooster can't!! But they have proved that the chicken came before the egg! And why some birds fly but others can't! Evolution is supposed to be the ability to adapt to survive the dangers presented to each species, and yet the Lion has not overcome man(kind) and nor has the Elephant, all of which also evolved from the same 'original' life form as per that posting. And they think I am silly!!!
This is just a mess.

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#147929 Jan 11, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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You quote Hitler.
Do you believe him?
:-)
We don't believe you either.
Does that answer your question?

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#147930 Jan 11, 2013
Freebird USA wrote:
<quoted text> You can excuse an behavior s long as they share your ideology,can't you?
Not sure what you mean.
Loren Eberly

Mount Vernon, OH

#147931 Jan 11, 2013
Ford Markets Cost of Paying Stockholders $28 Million:

Ford marketed cost in wholesale and retail price of Ford products and service of paying Ford Stockholders (money marketers)$28 million.

This is needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream into Ford Stockholders portfolios.

Ford holding consumers of Ford product and service accountable to pay the $28 million Ford marketed in the wholesale and retail price of Ford product and service; That gets only Ford product and service; Is defiant of demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding Ford and every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay for Ford product and service and pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands makes it IMPOSSIBLE for President Obama and Congress to avoid fiscal cliff. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.

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#147932 Jan 11, 2013
Freebird USA wrote:
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Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism.
Vladimir Lenin
If those using the church and religion were motivated by power and control and committed atrocities frequently mentioned this is their mirror image.
Lenin used atheism as a tool,his motivation being power and control. If one doesn't care for judging all Atheists by Lenins actions one should afford Christians the same courtesy.
"Communism begins where atheism begins, but atheism is at the outset still far from being communism; indeed it is still for the most part an abstraction."
Karl Marx

Please explain to me exactly what atheist propoganda is.

I do afford that to Christians. I don't judge anyone by the crimes of others.
christianity is EVIL

Halifax, Canada

#147933 Jan 11, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Imagination overboard LOL!! Still can't explain how a chicken became a chicken or a rooster became a rooster and that the chicken can produce eggs, but the rooster can't!! But they have proved that the chicken came before the egg! And why some birds fly but others can't! Evolution is supposed to be the ability to adapt to survive the dangers presented to each species, and yet the Lion has not overcome man(kind) and nor has the Elephant, all of which also evolved from the same 'original' life form as per that posting. And they think I am silly!!!
do you really want to know?
go 4 it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_or_the_e...
christianity is EVIL

Halifax, Canada

#147934 Jan 11, 2013
Science
Main article: Evolution
The theory of evolution states that species change over time via mutation and sexual reproduction. Since DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid) can be modified only before birth, it can be argued that a mutation must have taken place at conception or within an egg such that a creature similar to a chicken, but not a chicken, laid the first chicken eggs. These eggs then hatched into chickens that inbred to produce a living population.[13][14] Hence, in this light, both the chicken and the structure of its egg evolved simultaneously from birds that, while not of the same exact species, gradually became more and more like present-day chickens over time.

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#147935 Jan 11, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> We don't believe you either.
Does that answer your question?

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#147936 Jan 11, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Please we already have a measure to go by.
It was called the "dark ages".
Care to see who was responsible for more deaths?
There is at a minimum a moral equivalence.

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#147937 Jan 11, 2013
madscot wrote:
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"Communism begins where atheism begins, but atheism is at the outset still far from being communism; indeed it is still for the most part an abstraction."
Karl Marx
Please explain to me exactly what atheist propoganda is.
I do afford that to Christians. I don't judge anyone by the crimes of others.
You will have to ask Lenin what he meant by atheist propaganda in the afterlife if it exists.

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#147938 Jan 11, 2013
Freebird USA wrote:
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Care to see who was responsible for more deaths?
There is at a minimum a moral equivalence.

You have no idea really , nor do I as we have nothing but propaganda to count. Perhaps you should understand the people better than you think you might. I've no doubt who caused the most death and destruction. The regimes that bore the most greed , and in them were equal in setting religion aside in achieving this end.

Because you will have remember it wasn't always governments who killed in quest for power. You will have to include the antiabortionists and Christians in Kosovo as well as Muslims who kill and Spaniards who killed natives , the Germans we killed, The Germans that killed. No my friend is is no accurate count.

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#147939 Jan 11, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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You have no idea really , nor do I as we have nothing but propaganda to count. Perhaps you should understand the people better than you think you might. I've no doubt who caused the most death and destruction. The regimes that bore the most greed , and in them were equal in setting religion aside in achieving this end.
Because you will have remember it wasn't always governments who killed in quest for power. You will have to include the antiabortionists and Christians in Kosovo as well as Muslims who kill and Spaniards who killed natives , the Germans we killed, The Germans that killed. No my friend is is no accurate count.
You sound as if you may be on board with the central premise of my desire to refuse to let myself be disarmed. Humanities unfortunate willingness to revert to barbarism at a moments notice for any variety of justifications.If religion ceased to exist tomorrow,humanity would find a quick replacement to justify its barbaric nature.

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#147940 Jan 11, 2013
Freebird USA wrote:
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You will have to ask Lenin what he meant by atheist propaganda in the afterlife if it exists.
Which pretty much renders it meaningless. Therefore, may be dismissed

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