Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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KJV wrote:
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No that was a joke. You might want to google "joke"
Was it? Funnily enough clairvoyance is one of those skills that I am not blessed with

And why is it that some particular people come up with “that was a joke” when they are shown for what they are, warts and all?

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KJV wrote:
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Why is it that atheist can't seem to dream up a stronger irony meter?
They always are busting or falling a part. Kind of a weak imagination.
Is it because cristards are allows breaking the bounds of irony?

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irony meter
A mythical device often mentioned on Internet discussion fora, the irony meter is a device for measuring unintentional irony. It is best known for breaking or exploding when the irony becomes too strong.
You need to do better. These things are junk. Like a flash bulb used once and done. And there is no recording method to record peak irony.
God

Mythical being often mention in bronze age religious texts and claimed to be responsible an unthinking macho deity known as the first trickster and first mass murders and the convenor of genocide, child murder, rape and slavery. An allegory blindly worshipped by deliberately ignorant people who find that such faith in magic and bronze age mayhem is preferable to actually educating themselves

You need to do better. These god ideas are junk. Like a florescent tube they shine brightly when new but degrade over time. And there is no recording method to record deliberate ignorance.
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A lot of those guys had mustaches too. I guess you're saying people with mustaches shouldn't be in power?
In 20th century atheist in power murdered millions. As a result turning to atheism is not an easy solution.
Hitler,
Stalin,
Lenin,
Castro,
Trotsky,
Kamenev,
Zinoviev
Mao,
Himler,
Eichmann
all examples of atheists not to be trusted,
Lincoln

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Thinking wrote:
BS. They weren't all Atheists.
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Denial does not help!

In 20th century atheist in power murdered millions. As a result turning to atheism is not an easy solution.
Hitler,
Stalin,
Lenin,
Castro,
Trotsky,
Kamenev,
Zinoviev
Mao,
Himler,
Eichmann
all examples of atheists not to be trusted,
Thinking

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GFY liar.
Lincoln wrote:
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Denial does not help!
In 20th century atheist in power murdered millions. As a result turning to atheism is not an easy solution.
Hitler,
Stalin,
Lenin,
Castro,
Trotsky,
Kamenev,
Zinoviev
Mao,
Himler,
Eichmann
all examples of atheists not to be trusted,

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A majority of the medical experts working o cute cancer and other diseases are atheists.
Lincoln wrote:
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In 20th century atheist in power murdered millions. As a result turning to atheism is not an easy solution.
Hitler,
Stalin,
Lenin,
Castro,
Trotsky,
Kamenev,
Zinoviev
Mao,
Himler,
Eichmann
all examples of atheists not to be trusted,

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Lincoln wrote:
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In 20th century atheist in power murdered millions. As a result turning to atheism is not an easy solution.
Hitler,
Stalin,
Lenin,
Castro,
Trotsky,
Kamenev,
Zinoviev
Mao,
Himler,
Eichmann
all examples of atheists not to be trusted,
Hitler, christian all his life, he murdered millions of jews because he believed that the Jews were responsible for christ’s death
Stalin, raised christian and tipped for the priesthood before taking the job as national despot
Lenin, Atheist
Castro, Agreed that the state and church should be separate but was educated as a christian in catholic boarding school and was sympathetic to the church.
Trotsky, Jewish but not religious, raised in Jewish family tradition
Kamenev, Athiest,
Zinoviev Belief that religion should be personal and private
Mao, Educated as in a catholic school as a catholic
Himler, Roman catholic but desired the restoration of paganism
Eichmann Protestant christian
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Jan 11, 2013
 
Lincoln wrote:
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..As a result turning to atheism is not an easy solution.
Hitler,
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Read this for an explanation as to why Hitler was not an Atheist:
http://www.evilbible.com/hitler_was_christian...
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Hitler, christian all his life, he murdered millions of jews because he believed that the Jews were responsible for christ’s death
Stalin, raised christian and tipped for the priesthood before taking the job as national despot
Lenin, Atheist
Castro, Agreed that the state and church should be separate but was educated as a christian in catholic boarding school and was sympathetic to the church.
Trotsky, Jewish but not religious, raised in Jewish family tradition
Kamenev, Athiest,
Zinoviev Belief that religion should be personal and private
Mao, Educated as in a catholic school as a catholic
Himler, Roman catholic but desired the restoration of paganism
Eichmann Protestant christian
Atheists like to believe the Nazis were Christian!
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Lincoln wrote:
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Atheists like to believe the Nazis were Christian!
:-)
So do facts

Delusion and lies does not make any difference to facts

The Nazi party was a christian party headed by a staunch christen. Because modern day christians want to distance themselves from the stigma of the horrors they caused (in the name of christianity) they claim (lie for their god) that the Nazis and Hitler were not christian

Facts, documents and of course the links of the Nazi party to the catholic church etc prove otherwise
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It's not a matter of like or dislike. It's the truth.

The truth is Hitler was the catholic leader of a mainly protestant Germany.
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Atheists like to believe the Nazis were Christian!
:-)

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Lincoln wrote:
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In 20th century atheist in power murdered millions. As a result turning to atheism is not an easy solution.
Hitler,
Stalin,
Lenin,
Castro,
Trotsky,
Kamenev,
Zinoviev
Mao,
Himler,
Eichmann
all examples of atheists not to be trusted,
Why do you include christians in your list. Just being fair? Good job.

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Lincoln wrote:
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Atheists like to believe the Nazis were Christian!
:-)
Christians hysterically deny that most of 'em were.

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polymath257 wrote:
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That the universe is expanding from a hot, dense state.
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No, that is not part of the theory of evolution.
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That biological species change over geological time.
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This is false. We have watched new species of mosquito evolve in the London train tunnels. We have produced reproductively isolate populations of fruit flies (counting as new species by the standard definition of species).
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Oh, I *know* that some people put religion first. Such people tend not to be scientists because they can't handle the evidence-based and skeptical aspects of science.
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Well, I consider *any* belief in a supernatural to be superstitious. Belief in the absence of evidence (or, better, when there is contrary evidence) is ignorant.
And an amoeba and its bacteria parasite coevolved into a symbiote - in 1972, in the lab. And E. coli evolved to digest citrate - citrate!- in the lab, after 5 years, just recently (so it's a new species).

And we've monitored the evolution of finches on Galapagos over the decades. And the 11 rabbits that were released in Australia 150 years ago are now 4 separate species.

Tuberculosis evolved MultiDrug Resistance about 20-30 years ago and 2 years ago, Total Drug Resistance. HIV evolved around two generations ago from SIV...twice...from different species...and, in humans, it has evolved a third full strain plus a number of sub-strains.

Those are just the ones I can list off the top of my head. If we include genetic data, the list increases. If we include morphological (fossil) data, well...yeah, it proves evolution. Only an uneducated person or an abject idiot would reject evolution.

Which is what we're dealing with here *-*

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In the macro world.

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Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>Denial does not help!

In 20th century atheist in power murdered millions. As a result turning to atheism is not an easy solution.
Hitler,
Stalin,
Lenin,
Castro,
Trotsky,
Kamenev,
Zinoviev
Mao,
Himler,
Eichmann
all examples of atheists not to be trusted,
*

That's the list of theists to be trusted.
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ChristineM wrote:
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So do facts
Delusion and lies does not make any difference to facts
The Nazi party was a.........
Show up in a university class devoted to World War II and tell the class that your have discovered the Nazis were Christians :-)

Should be fun
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ChristineM wrote:
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Hitler, Christian all his life.....
Thats interesting, Hitler .... gassing priests and nuns.
World War II, Sept 1 1939 Invasion of Poland;ended in 1945.

Several books on this, not difficult to read....

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Lincoln wrote:
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Atheists like to believe the Nazis were Christian!
:-)
Hitler also had a mustache. I think it was the mustache that caused him to commit his atrocities. You got any real evidence that it was specifically because of atheism and not his mustache, or are you just making stuff up?

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Lincoln wrote:
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Show up in a university class devoted to World War II and tell the class that your have discovered the Nazis were Christians :-)
Should be fun
You were never at any of them.

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