Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Since: Dec 10

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#147929 Jan 11, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
You quote Hitler.
Do you believe him?
:-)
We don't believe you either.
Does that answer your question?

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#147930 Jan 11, 2013
Freebird USA wrote:
<quoted text> You can excuse an behavior s long as they share your ideology,can't you?
Not sure what you mean.
Loren Eberly

Mount Vernon, OH

#147931 Jan 11, 2013
Ford Markets Cost of Paying Stockholders $28 Million:

Ford marketed cost in wholesale and retail price of Ford products and service of paying Ford Stockholders (money marketers)$28 million.

This is needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream into Ford Stockholders portfolios.

Ford holding consumers of Ford product and service accountable to pay the $28 million Ford marketed in the wholesale and retail price of Ford product and service; That gets only Ford product and service; Is defiant of demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding Ford and every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay for Ford product and service and pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands makes it IMPOSSIBLE for President Obama and Congress to avoid fiscal cliff. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#147932 Jan 11, 2013
Freebird USA wrote:
<quoted text>
Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism.
Vladimir Lenin
If those using the church and religion were motivated by power and control and committed atrocities frequently mentioned this is their mirror image.
Lenin used atheism as a tool,his motivation being power and control. If one doesn't care for judging all Atheists by Lenins actions one should afford Christians the same courtesy.
"Communism begins where atheism begins, but atheism is at the outset still far from being communism; indeed it is still for the most part an abstraction."
Karl Marx

Please explain to me exactly what atheist propoganda is.

I do afford that to Christians. I don't judge anyone by the crimes of others.
christianity is EVIL

Halifax, Canada

#147933 Jan 11, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Imagination overboard LOL!! Still can't explain how a chicken became a chicken or a rooster became a rooster and that the chicken can produce eggs, but the rooster can't!! But they have proved that the chicken came before the egg! And why some birds fly but others can't! Evolution is supposed to be the ability to adapt to survive the dangers presented to each species, and yet the Lion has not overcome man(kind) and nor has the Elephant, all of which also evolved from the same 'original' life form as per that posting. And they think I am silly!!!
do you really want to know?
go 4 it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_or_the_e...
christianity is EVIL

Halifax, Canada

#147934 Jan 11, 2013
Science
Main article: Evolution
The theory of evolution states that species change over time via mutation and sexual reproduction. Since DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid) can be modified only before birth, it can be argued that a mutation must have taken place at conception or within an egg such that a creature similar to a chicken, but not a chicken, laid the first chicken eggs. These eggs then hatched into chickens that inbred to produce a living population.[13][14] Hence, in this light, both the chicken and the structure of its egg evolved simultaneously from birds that, while not of the same exact species, gradually became more and more like present-day chickens over time.

Since: Oct 10

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#147935 Jan 11, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> We don't believe you either.
Does that answer your question?

Since: Aug 11

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#147936 Jan 11, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Please we already have a measure to go by.
It was called the "dark ages".
Care to see who was responsible for more deaths?
There is at a minimum a moral equivalence.

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#147937 Jan 11, 2013
madscot wrote:
<quoted text>
"Communism begins where atheism begins, but atheism is at the outset still far from being communism; indeed it is still for the most part an abstraction."
Karl Marx
Please explain to me exactly what atheist propoganda is.
I do afford that to Christians. I don't judge anyone by the crimes of others.
You will have to ask Lenin what he meant by atheist propaganda in the afterlife if it exists.

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Since: Dec 10

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#147938 Jan 11, 2013
Freebird USA wrote:
<quoted text>
Care to see who was responsible for more deaths?
There is at a minimum a moral equivalence.

You have no idea really , nor do I as we have nothing but propaganda to count. Perhaps you should understand the people better than you think you might. I've no doubt who caused the most death and destruction. The regimes that bore the most greed , and in them were equal in setting religion aside in achieving this end.

Because you will have remember it wasn't always governments who killed in quest for power. You will have to include the antiabortionists and Christians in Kosovo as well as Muslims who kill and Spaniards who killed natives , the Germans we killed, The Germans that killed. No my friend is is no accurate count.

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#147939 Jan 11, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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You have no idea really , nor do I as we have nothing but propaganda to count. Perhaps you should understand the people better than you think you might. I've no doubt who caused the most death and destruction. The regimes that bore the most greed , and in them were equal in setting religion aside in achieving this end.
Because you will have remember it wasn't always governments who killed in quest for power. You will have to include the antiabortionists and Christians in Kosovo as well as Muslims who kill and Spaniards who killed natives , the Germans we killed, The Germans that killed. No my friend is is no accurate count.
You sound as if you may be on board with the central premise of my desire to refuse to let myself be disarmed. Humanities unfortunate willingness to revert to barbarism at a moments notice for any variety of justifications.If religion ceased to exist tomorrow,humanity would find a quick replacement to justify its barbaric nature.

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#147940 Jan 11, 2013
Freebird USA wrote:
<quoted text>
You will have to ask Lenin what he meant by atheist propaganda in the afterlife if it exists.
Which pretty much renders it meaningless. Therefore, may be dismissed
Lincoln

United States

#147941 Jan 11, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
No belief, they announced it themselves with loudspeakers and slogans on their uniforms.
"You are going for showers" the Nazi told the people being gassed.
You believe the Nazis?

A group of atheists in power who murdered millions.
Stalin,
Lenin,
Castro,
Trotsky,
Kamenev,
Zinoviev,
Khrushchev
Brezhnev
Mao,

Removed your faux Christian Nazis :-)

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#147942 Jan 11, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
"You are going for showers" the Nazi told the people being gassed.
You believe the Nazis?
A group of atheists in power who murdered millions.
Stalin,
Lenin,
Castro,
Trotsky,
Kamenev,
Zinoviev,
Khrushchev
Brezhnev
Mao,
Removed your faux Christian Nazis :-)
Castro is Catholic for starters.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#147944 Jan 12, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Imagination overboard LOL!! Still can't explain how a chicken became a chicken or a rooster became a rooster and that the chicken can produce eggs, but the rooster can't!! But they have proved that the chicken came before the egg! And why some birds fly but others can't! Evolution is supposed to be the ability to adapt to survive the dangers presented to each species, and yet the Lion has not overcome man(kind) and nor has the Elephant, all of which also evolved from the same 'original' life form as per that posting. And they think I am silly!!!
We don't think you're silly.

We have no doubt whatsoever.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#147945 Jan 12, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
"You are going for showers" the Nazi told the people being gassed.
You believe the Nazis?
A group of atheists in power who murdered millions.
Stalin,
Lenin,
Castro,
Trotsky,
Kamenev,
Zinoviev,
Khrushchev
Brezhnev
Mao,
Removed your faux Christian Nazis :-)
Not true Scotsman fallacy again? Don't you get tired of being told that it's a fallacy?

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#147946 Jan 12, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Not true Scotsman fallacy again? Don't you get tired of being told that it's a fallacy?
There seems to be very few on here willing to learn, listen or investigate anything that is not already programmed into their brains.

I can only hope that I am not one of those people!

Of course anyone whom I disagree with will claim that I am such a person, but I have my doubts.

Q:Did god create the universe in 6 days?
R:The only 'evidence' we have is the bible.

Q:Did god or jesus say that we are no longer under god's original laws?
R:No, just the opposite

Q:Can laws be fulfilled?
A:No, only prophecy can be fulfilled.

Q:Are guns the cause for murder?
A:I very much doubt it, but I am willing to listen. If one life lost to the misuse of a firearm, does that negate a hundred of innocent lives saved by a firearm? What is the allowable ratio?

Anything and everything is worth talking about and working to a compromise. Just because you like one thing and hate another is no reason to allow the one and disallow the other. "Liking" or "Disliking" have no bearing on any issue.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#147947 Jan 12, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
There seems to be very few on here willing to learn, listen or investigate anything that is not already programmed into their brains.
I can only hope that I am not one of those people!
Of course anyone whom I disagree with will claim that I am such a person, but I have my doubts.
Q:Did god create the universe in 6 days?
R:The only 'evidence' we have is the bible.
Q:Did god or jesus say that we are no longer under god's original laws?
R:No, just the opposite
Q:Can laws be fulfilled?
A:No, only prophecy can be fulfilled.
Q:Are guns the cause for murder?
A:I very much doubt it, but I am willing to listen. If one life lost to the misuse of a firearm, does that negate a hundred of innocent lives saved by a firearm? What is the allowable ratio?
Anything and everything is worth talking about and working to a compromise. Just because you like one thing and hate another is no reason to allow the one and disallow the other. "Liking" or "Disliking" have no bearing on any issue.
You are certainly willing to learn, there is no doubt about that.

As for compromise, you should never compromise with a delusion, other than that, it's a good way to live. ;)

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#147948 Jan 12, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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People only think you're silly when you post things like the above. I'm an atheist but I don't get too involved in Evolution Theory debates. Do you know why? I really don't know enough about it. You and I are equally ignorant in that respect.
Doubt it .... I do read up on it and where the scientists are with their findings!! Do you? If you do, then feel qualified to comment, but of course, have some links to back you up, otherwise people will call you an idiot, or something similar!!

***Which came first, the chicken or the egg - MSNBC.com
www.msnbc.msn.com/...science-science/.../whic... -...- United States
14 Jul 2010 – "It had long been suspected that the egg came first but now we have the scientific proof that shows that in fact the chicken came first,"***

Scientists are allowed to change their minds; they can kill us with their drugs and chemicals, and they have and still do, and it is put down to progress.

They are only learning what was known in the first place! And if you don't think that evolutionists believe that every life form we see evolved from the first organism, then debate it with them.

And if you don't think Darwin's theory was evolution was prevention of extinction, what do you think it is? And if you have no thoughts, don't even consider yourself 'ignorant' on the subject, you are not even that competent to be called ignorant.

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#147949 Jan 12, 2013
***Evolution is the change in the inherited characteristics of biological populations over successive generations. Evolutionary processes give rise to diversity at every level of biological organisation, including species, individual organisms and molecules such as DNA and proteins.[1]

Life on Earth originated and then evolved from a universal common ancestor approximately 3.8 billion years ago. Repeated speciation and the divergence of life can be inferred from shared sets of biochemical and morphological traits, or by shared DNA sequences.[2] These homologous traits and sequences are more similar among species that share a more recent common ancestor, and can be used to reconstruct evolutionary histories, using both existing species and the fossil record. Existing patterns of biodiversity have been shaped both by speciation and by extinction.[3]

Charles Darwin and Alfred Wallace were the first to formulate a scientific argument for the theory of evolution by means of natural selection. Evolution by natural selection is a process that is inferred from three facts about populations: 1) more offspring are produced than can possibly survive, 2) traits vary among individuals, leading to different rates of survival and reproduction, and 3) trait differences are heritable.[4] Thus, when members of a population die they are replaced by the progeny of parents that were better adapted to survive and reproduce in the environment in which natural selection took place. This process creates and preserves traits that are seemingly fitted for the functional roles they perform.[5] Natural selection is the only known cause of adaptation, but not the only known cause of evolution. Other, nonadaptive causes of evolution include mutation and genetic drift.[6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution ***

That is what I wrote, just in my words and much shorter. Same thing though, should I compliment by calling you ignoramus? Or is that too polite?

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