Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story
KJV

United States

#147789 Jan 9, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>Evidence leads to proof. The supernatural has no evidence to support it.
"Evidence leads to proof." Always?

This would be quite a statement if it came from an intelligent source.
Hence it's just ludicrous babble.

"The supernatural has no evidence to support it." Sure about this?

No evidence? Really?
This statement can only be made by an all knowing intellect.

Hint: that ain't you! LOL
KJV

United States

#147791 Jan 9, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
<quoted text>So why should anyone accept God as anything more than a product of someone's vivid imagination?

All you theists run away from this question for some reason.
You should not accept God as more than a product of someone's vivid imagination?

Ok? Sound good?

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#147792 Jan 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
The scientific method is not perfect. It depends on who is interpreting the data & how they perceive it.
And the debate between different people looking at the data in different ways leads to further testable predictions that help to resolve the dispute. THAT is how science works.
Personal and cultural beliefs influence both our perceptions and our interpretations of natural phenomena.
Which is why it is good to have people with very different backgrounds doing the science. The cultural beliefs of someone in Japan are quite different than the cultural beliefs of someone in the US, but the science is the same. When there are disputes, the mediation is done by more observation and testing.
Theories that can't be tested - like a particle that is unobservable (or God)- are not scientific theories, they are speculation and conjecture.
Agrees. Testability is the essence of science. Forturnaltely, both the Big bang and evolution have been tested in many different ways and have passed the tests.
Of course religion seems outdated to a skeptic. Why wouldn't it?
But to most of the world, faith & religion is in the forefront of their being.
You have to accept that.
Why? Why not work to change that sad state of affairs? Why 'accept' ignorance and superstition?

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#147793 Jan 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
He'd have been fine hashes stuck to astrology. But even there, Sagan was an arrogant, humans-are-the-one-all-be-all ass.
"We are the way for the cosmos to know itself."
WTF is that if not arrogant presumption?
Please learn the difference between astrology and astronomy. Sagan was an astronomer, not an astrologer.
KJV

United States

#147800 Jan 9, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>Mine just went burp and fell to bits when I read KJV post
Why is it that atheist can't seem to dream up a stronger irony meter?

They always are busting or falling a part. Kind of a weak imagination.
KJV

United States

#147801 Jan 9, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>Mine just went burp and fell to bits when I read KJV post
irony meter

A mythical device often mentioned on Internet discussion fora, the irony meter is a device for measuring unintentional irony. It is best known for breaking or exploding when the irony becomes too strong.

You need to do better. These things are junk. Like a flash bulb used once and done. And there is no recording method to record peak irony.

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#147802 Jan 9, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
Please learn the difference between astrology and astronomy. Sagan was an astronomer, not an astrologer.
Hey Poly. I think he meant that as an insult.

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#147803 Jan 9, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
irony meter
A mythical device often mentioned on Internet discussion fora, the irony meter is a device for measuring unintentional irony. It is best known for breaking or exploding when the irony becomes too strong.
You need to do better. These things are junk. Like a flash bulb used once and done. And there is no recording method to record peak irony.
Umm...wrong :

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2DBYr_Z1hfg/TzQEMQo...

Since: Mar 11

United States

#147805 Jan 9, 2013
Well aside from there being no proof that Jesus actually existed your reasoning here shows God indeed changed and learned something new.

I believe that's checkmate.
:)
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps everything changed when Jesus died for us...

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#147806 Jan 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
The scientific method is not perfect. It depends on who is interpreting the data & how they perceive it.
...
And that's why independent verification is required. In fact the more independent verification that is done, the more confidence science has in it's findings.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#147807 Jan 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
He'd have been fine hashes stuck to astrology....
It's astronomy, not astrology. I realize you don't know the difference, but people who do are laughing at you.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
But even there, Sagan was an arrogant, humans-are-the-one-all-be-all ass. "We are the way for the cosmos to know itself." WTF is that if not arrogant presumption?
Ah yes -- atheism is the arrogant belief the the billions of stars in the billions of galaxies were NOT all created just for humans.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#147808 Jan 9, 2013
madscot wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Poly. I think he meant that as an insult.
I'm not so sure.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#147809 Jan 9, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
<quoted text>
And, according to at least 1 study, it's only in one side of the brain. So if you get a split brain operation, does 1/2 go to heaven and the other go to hell?
"http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=PFJPtVRlI64XX&list= FLAmJMW89IFfHJvk52XAp35A"
That is interesting but, does that mean that atheist only use half of their brain? One whole study?

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#147810 Jan 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't post no Carl Sagan gibberish. That dude is out of his mind. And you people worship him like the pope.
What about fairies, gnomes & dragons? Because you can't test for them you seem them unreal?
Not very scientific...
1. You shouldn't worship the pope, especially Darth Sidius.
2. There is nothing wrong with Sagan other than his hair cut.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#147811 Jan 10, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>That is interesting but, does that mean that atheist only use half of their brain? One whole study?
Once again another creationist potshot from the supposed agnostic atheist.

You're full of sh*t and so iS your cult you dishonest piece of sh*t.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#147812 Jan 10, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Once again another creationist potshot from the supposed agnostic atheist.
You're full of sh*t and so iS your cult you dishonest piece of sh*t.
More proof that you don't get it.. Thanks for participating.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#147813 Jan 10, 2013
I don't find miscarriage funny, so why are you laughing?
You are a twisted retard with no values.
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#147814 Jan 10, 2013
What is your belief system? Mine is defacto Atheist.
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>More proof that you don't get it.. Thanks for participating.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#147815 Jan 10, 2013
Thinking wrote:
What is your belief system? Mine is defacto Atheist.
<quoted text>
Ignostic

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#147816 Jan 10, 2013
KJV wrote:
You also admitted that the majority of humans have god delusions. So your source is ... what? Pointless is correct answer. Other imaginary beings are called gods, god is a "type" of thing, therefore your god is no exception. You don't get free passes anymore.

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