Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story
KJV

United States

#147610 Jan 8, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
Yes however civilisation has progressed over 300+ years, most civilisations anyway.

Does my country have any say in disarming your country? I can make my opinion known just as you can, that’s freedom for you. The difference is that in your country I do not get a vote.

So your idea of freedom is to limit the type of weapon to those who you think should be allowed to carry them – fine… How about the guy down the road with the semi automatic over the fire in his lounge and the shotgun on display in the back window of his suv who likes to drink until he’s falling over drunk every Friday night, does he not get a say in this?

You also seem to be in favour of “compulsory” screening to see if one is fit to carry a firearm, where is the freedom in that? Double standards or what?

Try looking up the definition of amendment FYI CHANGE. It’s down to the will of the people as to whether the majority of guns are removed from the public. It can never be all guns, there will always be some few (even in the UK) who consider unregistered guns to be a turn on (or big them up to their gang) but that goes into the realms of obsession and you cant legislate against that.

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The manner in which America's crime rate compared to other countries of similar wealth and development depends on the nature of the crime used in the comparison.[30] Overall crime statistic comparisons are difficult to conduct, as the definition of crimes significant enough to be published in annual reports varies across countries. Thus an agency in a foreign country may include crimes in its annual reports which the United States omits.
Some countries such as Canada, however, have similar definitions of what constitutes a violent crime, and nearly all countries had the same definition of the characteristics that constitutes a homicide. Overall the total crime rate of the United States is similar to that of other highly developed countries. Some types of reported property crime in the U.S. survey as lower than in Germany or Canada, yet the homicide rate in the United States is substantially higher.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_Uni...

Aura Mytha wrote, "<quoted text> Oh but you want to impose on my freedom just two post ago ?
Hypocrite much? "

Three posts – your freedom to wear a seat belt? Look, if you don’t want to wear a seat belt that up to you but don’t come crying to me when some p|sshead rams you head on and you wife and kids are mutilated in the devastation.
Yes the homicide rate in the United States is substantially higher. But only because of the first amendment freedom of speech. If some people would just shut and not piss everyone off they would not be getting shot!

Take Septic for instants.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#147611 Jan 8, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Is that kind of like when you're looking for something and it's always in the last place you looked? After all why keep looking once you found it. If guns we outlawed then yes anyone with a gun would be breaking the law even if the owner never planed on using it for any other criminal intent.
Oh, mean like the drug war.. or is it the war on terrorism.. or is it the war on childhood obesity?
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#147612 Jan 8, 2013
Why?
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Funny how atheist believe there is no God yet they all seem to believe in a gadget called an irony meters.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#147613 Jan 8, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>Funny how atheist believe there is no God yet they all seem to believe in a gadget called an irony meters.
I used to believe in irony meters.

But you just keep breaking them.

I don't believe in them any more.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#147614 Jan 8, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
It's no fallacy Them's the facts.
I didn't write those surveys I didn't supervise those surveys. I simply quoted those surveys.
Just like I'm quoting some atheist who claim everyone is born an atheist in this post below.
2.3% what a joke your religion is!
You claim all humans are born atheist.
Ok that means at one time you had 100% of the human population. The current percentage of the world population that is atheist is at 2.3%.
That means that 97.7% of your congregation has left your faith!!
WTF is wrong with you guys?
97.7%!!!!!!!
Do you realize how many people that is?
Man you're not just losing them at that rate there running from you! LMFAO
So, you didn't even look at what the fallacy is that you are employing. You are using a fallacy, end of story.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#147615 Jan 8, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
It's no fallacy Them's the facts.
I didn't write those surveys I didn't supervise those surveys. I simply quoted those surveys.
Just like I'm quoting some atheist who claim everyone is born an atheist in this post below.
2.3% what a joke your religion is!
You claim all humans are born atheist.
Ok that means at one time you had 100% of the human population. The current percentage of the world population that is atheist is at 2.3%.
That means that 97.7% of your congregation has left your faith!!
WTF is wrong with you guys?
97.7%!!!!!!!
Do you realize how many people that is?
Man you're not just losing them at that rate there running from you! LMFAO
And if the religulous would stop pushing their religion on children BEFORE they have reached an age where they can reason for themselves, that number would more than likely be a whole lot different.

All you've shown is how effective religious brainwashing is when they have immature minds to work with.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#147616 Jan 8, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Funny how atheist believe there is no God yet they all seem to believe in a gadget called an irony meters.
How is that funny?

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#147617 Jan 8, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Funny how atheist believe there is no God yet they all seem to believe in a gadget called an irony meters.
You don't. How can you have any morals if you don't believe in irony meters? You heathen.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#147618 Jan 8, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't. How can you have any morals if you don't believe in irony meters? You heathen.
It was the Sausage Monster that made him say it, don't blame him for it, we shall ask the holy noodles to bless him for his blasphemy.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#147619 Jan 8, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
You can persuade me.
Produce your god.
Ive been watching episodes of Gold Rush. By all accounts gold mining doesnt come easy. Its hard work and a lot of stubbornness to keep going despite multiple failures. On the show there have been lots of setbacks and disappointments. Determination drives the teams to get results.

My Dear Catcher, you want to see the gold but you dont want to dig for it. You want proof of God yet you dont want to bend your knee and humble yourself to meet him in prayer. I would love for you to find him. But it takes effort and determination on your part.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#147620 Jan 8, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
The Emperor's New Clothes, ploy? Again?
You do a really good job covering the issue of gun control. Perhaps you should stick with it and let go of this other. At least with gun control you bring in valid points to the argument. With Atheism you just dont have much to say other than a few off the shelf remarks.

Im not trying to insult you here. Im just pointing out your much stronger in one area than the other. I was raised up with guns. But I have gotten rid of all my guns except one.

My Son in Houston has been the opposite of myself. He is a gun loving fool. He is also a sportsman that loves to hunt and fish. Shooting is a serious hobby with some folks.

In my younger days for stress relief I would take my 357 to a indoor shooting range. Theres nothing like shooting a 357 indoors. The dust at the top of the ceiling would let go and fall. You could feel the energy hit you in the face when the hammer came down.

Hopefully our country can come to grips with some reasonable gun control that keeps guns out of the hands of the crazies.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#147621 Jan 8, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Quoting your own quote doesn't make it more valid. Gun crime in the US is miles above any other country, the solution is the remove guns.
Its a pity the spoilt toddler that is the the US, won't let mommy reason take the toy away after they killed someone with it.
Perhaps the problem is that basic moral education was substituted with religious cr*p and that's what makes you folk so f*cking stupid when it comes to guns.
We do indeed have gun violence but nothing like what is happening in Syria. If there ever was a country that needed the NRA its Syria.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#147622 Jan 8, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
<quoted text>
And if the religulous would stop pushing their religion on children BEFORE they have reached an age where they can reason for themselves, that number would more than likely be a whole lot different.
All you've shown is how effective religious brainwashing is when they have immature minds to work with.
BET had series last month called Roots. I have never seen that series in its entirety until recently. One man, a African Slave was able to preserve his heritage by passing on information to his children.

How extraordinary that history was and it touched the entire world. People and cultures should have the right to preserve their culture. Even if it is a culture that you dont adhere too. Religion is a very big part of human culture.

Im actively preserving my religious heritage with my grandchildren. I hope and pray they do the same when they have grandchildren. We have Roots, and those roots need to be preserved.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#147623 Jan 8, 2013
A starving man will go look for food.

A lazy man will ask you to go look for food and bring it too him.

Theres no lack of evidence in proving theres a God.

Theres a lack of effort.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#147624 Jan 8, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
A starving man will go look for food.
A lazy man will ask you to go look for food and bring it too him.
Theres no lack of evidence in proving theres a God.
Theres a lack of effort.
Excuses. The starving man is actually missing something. We are not, we are just not buying what you're selling without you providing evidence to support it.

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#147625 Jan 8, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
BET had series last month called Roots.
.. this is not a sentence ..

.. pitch hitting for CATCHER. He's addressing a convention of esteemed lawyers this afternoon ..

.. as his sock, I'm filling in ..
KJV

United States

#147626 Jan 8, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, mean like the drug war.. or is it the war on terrorism.. or is it the war on childhood obesity?
I said:

KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Is that kind of like when you're looking for something and it's always in the last place you looked? After all why keep looking once you found it. If guns we outlawed then yes anyone with a gun would be breaking the law even if the owner never planed on using it for any other criminal intent.

You said:
Oh, mean like the drug war.. or is it the war on terrorism.. or is it the war on childhood obesity?

Not really following you here.
KJV

United States

#147627 Jan 8, 2013
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>Why?
Because it is. To me anyways.
KJV

United States

#147628 Jan 8, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>I used to believe in irony meters.

But you just keep breaking them.

I don't believe in them any more.
How can I break a fictional item?

And really if you're going to invent something make durable unlike these irony meters that just keep breaking.
Like who would want one if it breaks on the first use?
KJV

United States

#147629 Jan 8, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>So, you didn't even look at what the fallacy is that you are employing. You are using a fallacy, end of story.
Oh please feel free to enlighten me on this fallacy?

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