Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#147545 Jan 7, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong
The evidence is there. You choose not to except it as evidence. There are 2.03% of the worlds population that is atheist! 97.07% don't agree with you. And 35% of the earths population whole heartily accept the evidence. That is like about 33% more then you have.
"The CIA World Factbook gives the world population as 7,021,836,029 (July 2012 est.) and the distribution of religions as Christian 33.35%(of which Roman Catholic 16.83%, Protestant 6.08%, Orthodox 4.03%, Anglican 1.26%), Muslim 22.43%, Hindu 13.78%, Buddhist 7.13%, Sikh 0.36%, Jewish 0.21%, Baha'i 0.11%, other religions 11.17%, non-religious 9.42%, atheists 2.04%.
Wow. A whole 2.04% you guys are kicking some ass. LOL
Type all the lie you want survey after survey shows Atheist below 2.5%"
http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/bandwagon

Can't you make one point without invoking a fallacy. Let's look at the "majority" track record.

When Adolf said "let's torture Jewish people to death," the majority of Germans thought that was a good idea ... and the majority of the world thought it was none of their business, until he threatened to take over the world.

During the Crusades, a majority of the people thought the church knew what it was doing. So they killed a bunch of "brown" people who were minding their own business. Now the majority of those people blame the US for these slights, go figure.

The majority of the people thought the Inquisitors knew what they were doing, which resulted in the torture and death of a lot of innocent people.

The majority of England thought the US should be under English rule. So the US fought back. Then the majority of the US thought black people were less than human and should be slaves. Once they were freed the majority of the US thought they were still less than human and thus deserved no rights. Nice track record there.

The majority of Ancient Egyptians thought the pharaohs were demi-gods, so much that they took what they said as law even though the priests and preistesses were actually pulling the strings.

The majority of the world's population thought human sacrifices were a great thing for a few thousand years.

The majority thought the Earth was flat.

The majority thought lightning was some magical power of the gods.

The majority thought you could use your hands to wipe your butt.

Not a very good track record for the majority, it's more often wrong than correct, so if you want to pull that fallacy, it actually makes your religion look like a really bad idea.

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#147546 Jan 7, 2013
A highly opinionated personal philosophy by intelligent design loving Chris Langan. He is a theist with an able average IQ and some media popularity.

Regardless, like all theists who want to try to happily combine evolution and god he runs into the brick wall of first showing observable proof for god. He is unable to so his silly little CTMU is no more convincing than the divine teapot created the universe with the big brew.

It's a work of his imagination and nothing more.
Freebird USA wrote:
Anyone here familiar with CTMU theory?

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#147547 Jan 7, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, I am confused here, you said :-
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Getting rid of guns will not prevent children from getting murdered…
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And I replied
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Nope but it will get rid of children being murdered with guns
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So you counter by showing how easy guns are to obtain?
How can arms trafficking and illegal possession of guns ever be classed as
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Getting rid of guns
EndQuote.
The point is... Make a law banning guns then only criminals will have guns.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#147548 Jan 8, 2013
River Tam wrote:
You should read the short story if you haven't. As good as John Cusack is, you just can't get the insanity of King's mind into a movie.
Is it a popup book?

Those are the best.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#147549 Jan 8, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
The point is... Make a law banning guns then only criminals will have guns.
Batman doesn't need a gun.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#147550 Jan 8, 2013
River Tam wrote:
Right. Let's all streak. Wait, let's get the amputee. She'll get caught first.
I'll meet you all at the pub when they let me go :)
I'll wait at the pub.

I'm just an enabler.

“The Edge”

Since: Dec 10

Of Tomorow

#147551 Jan 8, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
Batman doesn't need a gun.
Batman deploys many type guns in his arsenal. But...
Batman doesn't want to kill people, he captures them for trial mostly. This is because his parents were murdered and he doesn't want to be like the murderer.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#147552 Jan 8, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Batman deploys many type guns in his arsenal. But...
Batman doesn't want to kill people, he captures them for trial mostly. This is because his parents were murdered and he doesn't want to be like the murderer.
None of that matters because DC comics suck.

“The Edge”

Since: Dec 10

Of Tomorow

#147553 Jan 8, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>None of that matters because DC comics suck.

We all need our heroes , even if they aren't real.
But it is a nice concept but our batmen in reality kill quite efficiently, ask OBL.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#147554 Jan 8, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
We all need our heroes , even if they aren't real.
But it is a nice concept but our batmen in reality kill quite efficiently, ask OBL.
Yeah, you don't Spiderman or the Avengers shooting up movie theaters.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#147555 Jan 8, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>The point is... Make a law banning guns then only criminals will have guns.
Wrong, that's a symptom of poor policing and not the effect of banning guns in public.

Your argument is ridiculous.

If you as a society choose to let go of your guns, you will have less murders its an unedniable fact.

Of course anything is deniable by creationists...

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#147556 Jan 8, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>None of that matters because DC comics suck.
Irrelevant point that doesn't excuse the fact that batman doesn;t need a gun.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#147557 Jan 8, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, you don't Spiderman or the Avengers shooting up movie theaters.
Anyone who believes in not banning guns is an idiot, its because they ignore facts and make excuses.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#147558 Jan 8, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you for your comments. There was a time early in my life when my belief in God was pure faith. Since that time I have gone beyond faith.

I know God is real. The proof is my own personal experiences. There’s no need to share these experiences. Because nothing I can say will persuade you and others.

I’m 100% sure in God’s existence.. I searched for God as a young man and found that he is not a fairy tale. But indeed God is as real as you or I. And so we are at a impasse. I can’t persuade you and you can’t persuade me.
So your mind is closed.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#147559 Jan 8, 2013
In the general case of guns, countries like switzerland have similar laws and much lower murder rates.

Apologists like Lil Ticked like to make the broader argument that other countries with guns are safe.

Which only goes to show that most americans just can't be trusted with being allowed guns.

Playtime is over put the penis extensions away insecure ignorant people.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#147560 Jan 8, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>Hey Tinkles.

So you're an IQ judge now?
In your case, there's not a lot to judge.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#147561 Jan 8, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
In the general case of guns, countries like switzerland have similar laws and much lower murder rates.
Apologists like Lil Ticked like to make the broader argument that other countries with guns are safe.
Which only goes to show that most americans just can't be trusted with being allowed guns.
Playtime is over put the penis extensions away insecure ignorant people.
Is that why violent crime rates are higher in the UK? Or why there is a complete gun ban in Mexico but they have the highest murder by guns than any other country?

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#147562 Jan 8, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Anyone who believes in not banning guns is an idiot, its because they ignore facts and make excuses.
Facts.

fbi.gov
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#147563 Jan 8, 2013
More BS.

Define your metrics and you'll find you're not comparing like with like.
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>Is that why violent crime rates are higher in the UK?

“The Edge”

Since: Dec 10

Of Tomorow

#147564 Jan 8, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>Facts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Ooa98FHuaU0XX
fbi.gov
^^ Great video thanks for that.
I love it when the truth is exposed, and it leaves no doubt.
Aside from the criminally insane who shoot up people in their defenseless vulnerable state. We can see crime is in the mega-dense packed areas and I would guess it's the troubled inner city youth behind most of that.

The interesting thing was how rifles are only used 3.4 % of the time meaning assault rifles are used even less in violent crimes and murders. This brings the question on exactly how banning them specifically would have any effect on the crimes in question and how targeting them will do anything but disarm honest Americans.

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