Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#147322 Jan 6, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
I figured you to be earring voices in your head. Maybe you should get something for those. And I know it's hard for you to believe but nobody else can hear those voices in your head no matter how clear they are to you.
Perhaps all the so called bible prophets had schizophrenia like RR there but just the people at the time didn't understand. That would be much more plausible than a real supernatural deity yes?
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And you accuse me of lame dodge, insult and redirection?

Hypocrite.

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#147323 Jan 6, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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It's exactly the same evidence you need to show us that there is no teapot orbiting the sun between Jupiter and Mars.
The teapot made its debut during the Ming Dynasty in China (approximately 1350ad). The first rocket into space was the German V2 in 1944. Since there is a reliable record of rockets and space exploration since the intial V2. It is safe to say there is no evidence of a teapot anywhere in space.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#147324 Jan 6, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Wouldn't it be nice?
MrCharlieDarwin posted:
"Atheism = belief depending on evidence"
I asked him where his evidence is.
His claim, not mine.
Try again?
What claim?

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#147325 Jan 6, 2013
Freebird USA wrote:
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The teapot made its debut during the Ming Dynasty in China (approximately 1350ad). The first rocket into space was the German V2 in 1944. Since there is a reliable record of rockets and space exploration since the intial V2. It is safe to say there is no evidence of a teapot anywhere in space.
So, even though you cannot actually prove there is no teapot in space, you consider such a possibility to be so remote as to be an absurd consideration?

That's exactly the way I feel about Shiva, Vishnu, and Brahma ... and Adonai ... and Allah .... and Jehovah ... and Thor ... and Zeus ... and all the others.( www.godchecker.com )

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#147326 Jan 6, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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They shouldn't.
If you have faith, you'd know.
If you believed in God, you'd know.
Because once you do, He is there for you.
That's a pretty poor excuse for not having any evidence of your assertion that there is a god, much less the one you ascribe to. Sounds more like you are trying to convince yourself that you know something others don't so you don't have to face facts.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#147327 Jan 6, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The tell me why America is filled with so many intellectual, rational people yet atheists are only .07% of the population.
Um, why did you make up a number. It's 2.04% that openly admit to being atheists. But the "non-religious" count as well, because without a religious belief you lack a belief in a god, therefore you're an atheist as well. The "atheist" label in that survey was likely for the atheist religions, there are a few religious that have no gods in them. So the total actually nears 14%.

But then, it doesn't matter, the majority are wrong more often than correct, and an appeal to popularity is a fallacy.
Loren Eberly

Delaware, OH

#147328 Jan 6, 2013
Divided Republican Party:

Republican Party members that support complying with USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

Are separate from Republican Party members that support holding Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay property tax on state appraised value of their American Dream to fund schools. Pay interest on lottery winners winnings Legislators invest in school bonds, Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands makes it IMPOSSIBLE for President Obama and Congress to avoid fiscal cliff. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old. America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay this debt in a hundred million years.
TLC

Birmingham, AL

#147329 Jan 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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That's a pretty poor excuse for not having any evidence of your assertion that there is a god, much less the one you ascribe to. Sounds more like you are trying to convince yourself that you know something others don't so you don't have to face facts.
It is good to see you are highly troubled and burdened with your atheism. If you were firmly grounded in your disbelief in God, you would be spending your time doing far more productive things outside of this forum. Looks like you are the fool you know you are.
TLC

Birmingham, AL

#147330 Jan 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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The "atheist" label in that survey was likely for the atheist religions.
I've been saying all along that atheism is a religion and you just agreed with that. You just called all your lame brained atheist friends liars!!! Thanks for destroying your own kind!!!
Turkey

Oswego, NY

#147331 Jan 6, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/ 2013/01/05/my-take-jesus-was-a -dirty-dirty-god/?hpt=hp_c1
A good article.
Something Topix atheists and too many Christians don't truly understand. Divinity comes from within, not without. Wisdom and truth comes from through us, not preached to us.
Stupid Topix atheists, they wrap their "scientists" in white robes and put halos on their head. Then bow at their feet.
Why are Topix atheists incapable of thinking in the abstract? Glorified electrons with limited circuitry.
Existence is a light shining and bouncing off thingies. Something provided the light switch.
:-)
God only reveals himself to those he likes. What a great gift. na nana na na na

Since: Jan 13

Dillon, CO

#147332 Jan 6, 2013
Darwinism: A theory based on all known scientific facts compiled by scientists up to this date, considered by all reputable thinkers as one of the crown jewels of human thought. The Bible: a hodge-podge of 5000 year old Middle Eastern mythology. Hmm. Which shall I believe?
TLC

Birmingham, AL

#147333 Jan 6, 2013
jeffthecheeseman wrote:
Darwinism: A theory based on all known scientific facts compiled by scientists up to this date, considered by all reputable thinkers as one of the crown jewels of human thought. The Bible: a hodge-podge of 5000 year old Middle Eastern mythology. Hmm. Which shall I believe?
Oh lookie, another lying sock puppet on the scene.

Since: Jan 13

Dillon, CO

#147335 Jan 6, 2013
Hey. nice welcome to the forum, TLC. Are all religious folks as welcoming as you?

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#147336 Jan 6, 2013
TLC wrote:
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I've been saying all along that atheism is a religion and you just agreed with that. You just called all your lame brained atheist friends liars!!! Thanks for destroying your own kind!!!
Atheism is not a religion . It is as disbelief in any gods .
An atheist religion has no supreme deity or god they worship like... Jainism, Buddhism, Raelism, Neopagan movements such as Wicca and Modern Gaia.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#147337 Jan 6, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Frozen. Costco.
But real maple syrup on them.
And a cup of strong French roast.
Actually, I thought it was some exercise I'd never heard of.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#147338 Jan 6, 2013
Freebird USA wrote:
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The teapot made its debut during the Ming Dynasty in China (approximately 1350ad). The first rocket into space was the German V2 in 1944. Since there is a reliable record of rockets and space exploration since the intial V2. It is safe to say there is no evidence of a teapot anywhere in space.
It's also safe to say there's no evidence of any god.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#147339 Jan 6, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Actually, I thought it was some exercise I'd never heard of.
You're confusing a waffle with a pretzel.

Since: Aug 11

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#147340 Jan 6, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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So, even though you cannot actually prove there is no teapot in space, you consider such a possibility to be so remote as to be an absurd consideration?
That's exactly the way I feel about Shiva, Vishnu, and Brahma ... and Adonai ... and Allah .... and Jehovah ... and Thor ... and Zeus ... and all the others.( www.godchecker.com )
It is MORE probable that there is no teapot based on what "is" known about teapots and what has been shot into space.The best evidence available supports there being no teapot.

Since: Aug 11

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#147341 Jan 6, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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It's also safe to say there's no evidence of any god.
That continues to be a matter of opinion.

Since: Jan 13

Dillon, CO

#147342 Jan 6, 2013
Agreed, Aerobatty. I am neither "atheist" nor "religious" If someone could produce for me one iota of proof, not faith, that a God exists, I would convert.I keep on hearing that I lack "faith". Sorry, but I need evidence if I am going to change my life and bet my "soul" on the existence of a God.

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