Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

[Adam]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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You don't get it.
Criminals & psychos will get guns whether or not they're legal or readily available.

Agreed. But the evidence here is gun massacres can still happen but become less frequent with an assult weapon ban.

[Adam]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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BUT - You don't understand the meaning of what you're quoting.

And how do you interpret. Conservative Catholics blindly follow the rulings of the church. Protestants do what? Make it up as they go allow. That is why you have 34000+ sects.

[-Skeptic-]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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You don't get it.
Criminals & psychos will get guns whether or not they're legal or readily available.
How do you know that Lanza wouldn't have used a car to do the same crime had he not had guns?
Cars are deadly, they kill people, not the drivers.
Cars are weapons....
Dumb ass.

Cars are designed to transport people not kill them. Guns are designed to kill things.

The pro-gun nutters don't have any valid arguments for their position. Its a fact.

I personally think that everyone who is pro-gun should be round up and put in prison, because they intend to carry dangerous weapons in society and cause a danger to innocent citizens that don't want killing machines in their community.

[RiversideRedneck]

-Skeptic- wrote:

Cars are designed to transport people not kill them. Guns are designed to kill things.

1/2 right. Cars are designed to transport people not kill them. Guns are designed to launch a projectile at high velocity on an intended trajectory.

If you are stupid enough to think that guns are designed to kill, then you're stupid enough to think that pencils are designed to misspell words.

The pro-gun nutters don't have any valid arguments for their position. Its a fact.

See above.

I personally think that everyone who is pro-gun should be round up and put in prison, because they intend to carry dangerous weapons in society and cause a danger to innocent citizens that don't want killing machines in their community.

Too bad you ain't never gonna get your way. I've fired thousands of round and never killed anything. In what way am I a "killing machine"?

Why are you so afraid?

[RiversideRedneck]

Adam wrote:

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Agreed. But the evidence here is gun massacres can still happen but become less frequent with an assult weapon ban.

OK, ban the assault guns, Holmes still had his shotgun & pistols.
(And nobody in the audience did, they had no way of defense)

And Lanza used pistols (And none of the teachers or staff were armed. Again, no way of defense.)

[Aerobatty]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

<quoted text>Yes He does. God knows everything.

You're stupider.

Then you have no free will.

"Stupider" is not a word.

[Aerobatty]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

<quoted text>You don't get it.

Criminals & psychos will get guns whether or not they're legal or readily available.

How do you know that Lanza wouldn't have used a car to do the same crime had he not had guns?

Cars are deadly, they kill people, not the drivers.

Cars are weapons....

Dumb ass.

So you're reversing your previous statements that guns don't kill people. People do?

You now recognize that guns kill people?

[Aerobatty]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

<quoted text>Not concerned about your safety?

Don't wear seat belts?

Don't use a handrail on stairs?

Don't look both ways before crossing the street?

Don't lock your doors at night?

uh-huh...

You're concerned about your safety, you just don't like guns. Admit it.

I like guns.

I don't NEED guns.

And I obviously don't like them anywhere near as much as you.

If I had the money for a gun, there are countless other things I'd rather have.

[Eagle12]

-Skeptic- wrote:

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Creationists show their desperation when they spam the atheist forums with their ridiculous nonsense.
No proof of god, the only duty of a creationist online should be to sh*t the f*ck up and get a basic science education.
They should pass a law in the states for every creationist to be force-taught evolution. Anyone who doesn't want to learn or accept evolution should be labelled as a dishonest liar in their permanent record (unless they are mentally incapable).

My Dear Skeptic, Thank you for your kind and thoughtful suggestions. You are always careful to select your words so as not to appear as a radical militant. Your kindness to your fellow humanity overwhelms me.

All of us have a respectful appreciation of science and research. From space research to medical science. It is all appreciated and supported by our tax dollars and donations.

As a separate issue, we that are free people have a fundamental right to religious freedom. A right given to us by our forefathers who framed the Constitution.

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

I’m here my good friend because I find Atheist fascinating and interesting company.

May you have a good day my friend,[Tipping Hat]

[Eagle12]

Aerobatty wrote:

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I like guns.
I don't NEED guns.
And I obviously don't like them anywhere near as much as you.
If I had the money for a gun, there are countless other things I'd rather have.

I have never shot anyone and hope that I can live my life without ever having to do so.

I have enjoyed target shooting. And I have never used a target that’s a silhouette of a human. I purposely don’t buy the human silhouettes because of my own personal convictions.

Guns can serve a dual purpose. One for sport and the other for personal protection in ones own home. There are lots of mindless thugs that are sexual predators targeting women and children. Today they are more brazen and bold.

A persons home should be a safe haven from hoodlums. The Bible says,“The violent take by force.” I think a man should be able to defend himself and his family at all cost.

I too could live without a gun. But I choose not too because it’s a fundamental right given to us in the Bill of Rights. If you live in a city with an excellent police response time then perhaps you don’t need a gun.

But sometimes things go South such as with a natural disaster. Then the Police protection could be days if not weeks away. These disasters bring the best and worst out of people. One must be able to defend and protect his life and family.

To those who don’t feel comfortable with guns. I would suggest,“Fox Labs Pepper Spray.”

[Freebird USA]

ChristineM wrote:

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That is your choice but when it all goes titsup and some raving nutcase with the same attitude as you shoots “your” child dead think about it again

Recognizing reality qualifies one as a "nutcase"? Being prepared for any eventually to survive transforms me into the equivalent of a child killer? Good luck to you if the shit ever hits the fan in your lifetime.

[Freebird USA]

KittenKoder wrote:

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If humanity was actually like that, we'd have died off before even having a chance. The other animals like to eat humans, when they are not outnumbered and organized.

The ability to work together in order to survive or defeat a common threat is perfectly natural. The ability to recognize that an act accordingly doesn't translate to being civilized.

[KittenKoder]

Freebird USA wrote:

<quoted text> The ability to work together in order to survive or defeat a common threat is perfectly natural. The ability to recognize that an act accordingly doesn't translate to being civilized.

Actually, it does. Social traits are evolved traits, and favored ones include cooperation, empathy, and caring about others of the same species. That is why several species exhibit the same level of caring for each other that we do.

[RiversideRedneck]

Aerobatty wrote:

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Then you have no free will.
"Stupider" is not a word.

It's an adjective of stupid, stupid.

www.thefreedictionary.com/stupider

[RiversideRedneck]

Aerobatty wrote:

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So you're reversing your previous statements that guns don't kill people. People do?
You now recognize that guns kill people?

It's useful to know sarcasm...

dictionary.reference.com/browse/sarcasm

No, guns don't kill people. People kill people.

If guns kill people, then the pencil misspelled the word....

[RiversideRedneck]

Aerobatty wrote:

I like guns.
I don't NEED guns.
And I obviously don't like them anywhere near as much as you.
If I had the money for a gun, there are countless other things I'd rather have.

I don't need guns, either.

I just like them.

Shooting targets is fun, that's all.

[NightSerf]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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Why do you & IANS do that?
You want me to go to that page & find what you're thinking?
Do you realize there's 20 posts on every page?

It's not hard. The last number on the link is the post number, so if the link takes you to the wrong mage, it's easy to find the right one, which is usually the next one (page numbers' relationships to post numbers change when earlier posts are deleted for Terms of Service violations). But if you have the post number, finding the right page is easy.

[Freebird USA]

KittenKoder wrote:

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Actually, it does. Social traits are evolved traits, and favored ones include cooperation, empathy, and caring about others of the same species. That is why several species exhibit the same level of caring for each other that we do.

Which doesn't exclude the practioners from self serving barbaric behavior.

[NightSerf]

-Skeptic- wrote:

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Cars are designed to transport people not kill them. Guns are designed to kill things.
The pro-gun nutters don't have any valid arguments for their position. Its a fact.
I personally think that everyone who is pro-gun should be round up and put in prison, because they intend to carry dangerous weapons in society and cause a danger to innocent citizens that don't want killing machines in their community.

I think RR might address your real point if you say "made" instead of "designed." He loves to create red herrings by quibbling over semantics. Why play into his hand like that?

[RiversideRedneck]

NightSerf wrote:

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I think RR might address your real point if you say "made" instead of "designed." He loves to create red herrings by quibbling over semantics. Why play into his hand like that?

It wouldn't matter. Guns aren't "made to kill things"....

Guns are made to shoot bullets.

Period.

That they CAN be used to kill is irrelevant.

Guns are made to shoot bullets. Sometimes a person kills another person using a gun.

Cars are made for transportation. Sometimes a person kill another person using a car - intentionally....

Would you say that because people use knives to kill people, then knives are "made to kill people"?