Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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#147097 Jan 4, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>So, you are saying that you have no proof and are making baseless claims? Seems as if you are the one with the creationist mindset.
No I'm saying you need to to sh*t the f*ck up and stop derailing conversations when they factually disprove your point of view.

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#147098 Jan 4, 2013
America has on average 88.9 guns per hundred people.

The second country with the most guns is India, with just 4 per hundred people.

That alone should tell you how mental the US obsession with guns is.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#147099 Jan 4, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
No I'm saying you need to to sh*t the f*ck up and stop derailing conversations when they factually disprove your point of view.
NO proof again along with angry vulgarities? For shame...

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#147100 Jan 4, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Nobody is arguing about what governments can be trusted with. Another attempt by you to derail the original point which is that guns kill people and should never be allowed in society.
Anyone who believes the opposite is an idiot who needs to stay the f*ck away from me.
Want to know what else kills people?
Cars, pitchforks, farm equipment, bombs, fireworks, swimming pools, etc.
Swimming pool deaths out numbers shooting deaths by quite a bit actually.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#147101 Jan 4, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>Want to know what else kills people?
Cars, pitchforks, farm equipment, bombs, fireworks, swimming pools, etc.
Swimming pool deaths out numbers shooting deaths by quite a bit actually.
But I like my cars, my swimming pools, my fireworks, etc!! I don't like guns, so they need to go! LOL!

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#147102 Jan 4, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong, guns kill people, violence doesn't always kill people. YOu are once again using that typical creationist tactic of shifting the goalposts.
Guns don't always kill people either.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

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#147103 Jan 4, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
America has on average 88.9 guns per hundred people.
The second country with the most guns is India, with just 4 per hundred people.
That alone should tell you how mental the US obsession with guns is.
We are 30 million ghuns short then.

I would rather live in the USA than India. Maybe they need some guns.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#147104 Jan 4, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>Want to know what else kills people?
Cars, pitchforks, farm equipment, bombs, fireworks, swimming pools, etc.
Swimming pool deaths out numbers shooting deaths by quite a bit actually.
Yep.

Alcohol and automoblies are the biggest killers in the USA.

Over half of the people in US prison are the result of alcohol related crimes.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#147105 Jan 4, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Yep.
Alcohol and automoblies are the biggest killers in the USA.
Over half of the people in US prison are the result of alcohol related crimes.
Good point. But still no reason to own military style assult weapons.

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Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#147106 Jan 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't get it.
Criminals & psychos will get guns whether or not they're legal or readily available.
How do you know that Lanza wouldn't have used a car to do the same crime had he not had guns?
Cars are deadly, they kill people, not the drivers.
Cars are weapons....
Dumb ass.
Yes so that limits the number of guns to a very few percent of the population.

Then there is no incentive for criminals to use firearms unless they know similar firearms will be used in response. The punishment (certainly in most of Europe) for an offence committed using a firearm tend to be 4/5 or more times harsher than the same crime without the firearm. Armed robbery 14 to 21 years. Unarmed burglary 2 to 5 years, unarmed housebreaking, a slap on the hand and perhaps a fine if the perp can afford it.(Up to you to look up the difference between burglary and housebreaking if you are interested)

The psychos exist whether the potential victim has a gun or not and owning gun will certainly be no deterrent to a psycho.

Stupid comparison you moron, cars “can” be used as a weapon, in the hands of someone with a mind to use it as such, they are however manufactured as transport aides. Just as a building brick can be used as a weapon in the wrong hands, it is manufactured as a building material. Hell even a babble can be used as a weapon if you hit someone with it, it seems it’s caused you considerable brain damage.

Guns on the other hand are manufactured explicitly as weapons, specifically to cause physical damage, mutilation and/or death to your opponent. They not manufactured to keep you warm and cosy while driving from point a to point b or to deflect the wind in such a civilised human way or to offer spiritual contentment to those who need it

Why are you so think?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#147107 Jan 4, 2013
Adam wrote:
<quoted text>
Good point. But still no reason to own military style assult weapons.
Why do I need a reason ?

What will I use when the civil war starts, when people get sick of being raped by politicians ?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#147108 Jan 4, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
.... The punishment (certainly in most of Europe) for an offence committed using a firearm tend to be 4/5 or more times harsher than the same crime without the firearm....
The courts in the USA are different. Crimes are judged largely on the amount of wealth and power you have.

A poor person is more likely to be imprisoned than a middle-class person and the wealthy are rarley convincted, and those that are will usually be put in luxury hotels that are prisons only in name.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#147109 Jan 4, 2013
I think this gun debate is clearly polarised geographically. Brits, and also perhaps east coast liberals, like stronger gun laws. Those from the bible belt and middle America, think the more guns the better.

“"None shall pass"”

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#147110 Jan 4, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
.....
Guns on the other hand are manufactured explicitly as weapons, specifically to cause physical damage, mutilation and/or death to your opponent.....
I cry over all the paper and clay I so terribly mutilate by guns every year. Not to mention the tasty animals brought home every fall and winter.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#147111 Jan 4, 2013
Adam wrote:
I think this gun debate is clearly polarised geographically. Brits, and also perhaps east coast liberals, like stronger gun laws. Those from the bible belt and middle America, think the more guns the better.
I would be interested in seeing those demographic stats.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#147112 Jan 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Not concerned about your safety?
Don't wear seat belts?
Don't use a handrail on stairs?
Don't look both ways before crossing the street?
Don't lock your doors at night?
uh-huh...
You're concerned about your safety, you just don't like guns. Admit it.
Hey you are the on who claimed a gun kept YOU safe. Not your children or anyone else’s children but YOU, you selfish moron.

We were talking about MURDER weapons, not common sense.

It is not common sense to point a loaded weapon designed to kill people at a child’s head and pull the trigger, that does not stop guns being used in that way but it is most certainly not common sense

That is so typical of a MURDER weapon lover to fall back on citing common sense precautions as the reason he owns a gun. What total bollocks - you own a gun because you are a weak minded moron who wants to feel like a big macho man.

It’s not that I dislike guns, they have their place in the military and even when adequately monitored in “official” security situations (but even that fail as is shown by the Swiss murder statistics).

What I do dislike is the morons like you who make false claims (something you do often) about what you are unwilling to consider. Those ignorant morons who see guns as a comfort in the arms race they call their life

Life has much more to offer than living in fear of some dickhead like you having a mental breakdown and shooting someone’s children.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#147113 Jan 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, you quote the (version you want) of the bible exactly as it was written.
BUT - You don't understand the meaning of what you're quoting.
Yes any one of the 50 odd different versions written in English. That of course does not include those hundreds written pre KJV and those written in other languages. ALL claim to be right so which do you want me to quote from in future?

BTW. I have seen you quote 3 different versions (possibly more, not taking much notice) you hypocritical fool

Wrong, the meaning is written in words one after the other and verses one after the other and books one after the other. The meaning is given in linear fashion as in a book (which is is), not a random access database (which it is not).

What p|sses you off is that I don’t “interpret” meanings as you do, by jumping back and fourth through 4000 years of time to find bits that make sense to you as you find so comforting to suite you personal interpretation.

Of course I understand the meaning, I have shown you the verses that the god (and his buddies) you worship is an egotistical, genocidal, child murdering, condoner of slavery, apologist for rape misogynist with a bad temper.

And what have you provided in reply, passages from some 4000 years later.

You are so delusional and sad

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#147114 Jan 4, 2013
Freebird USA wrote:
<quoted text> Recognizing reality qualifies one as a "nutcase"? Being prepared for any eventually to survive transforms me into the equivalent of a child killer? Good luck to you if the shit ever hits the fan in your lifetime.
Hey if you have a mental paddy you are capable of any act, if you carry a gun that makes the mayhem you can cause so much easier (and incidentally more removed from reality)

It’s hard to murder someone in cold blood when you do not have a weapon to do it for you second hand.

Personally I don’t need to worry that some dipshit freebird with personal issues is packing and on the edge of shooting my childen

What you worry about is up to you.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#147115 Jan 4, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>Getting rid of guns will not prevent children from getting murdered, or anyone for that matter.
Nope but it will get rid of children being murdered with guns

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#147116 Jan 4, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>That is true.
Yes it’s true, people can flip their lid whether they are armed or not

The difference is that if you flip you lid when you are not armed then you can’t shoot people.

If you are determined to kill someone then you have to get close and personal to do it and it is also true that not so many people are capable of doing that even when the perp is mentally disturbed

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