Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

[KittenKoder]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!
"evolution is the best answer to explain what is known"
You should quit your day job!

Really? Do you have a better one?

[Aerobatty]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

<quoted text>Ya right, like a song can't exist if you know the words.....

What?

[Aerobatty]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

<quoted text>Simple. I have awesomeness. You don't

:)

And a gun.

[Thinking]

I think there are bigger issues regarding violence and instant gratification. It's going to take a long time to sort those out, assuming the issues are accepted.

I don't negative icon you btw.

Aura Mytha wrote:

<quoted text> I agree , and they probably kill more often than not , but that's the issue with the person firing multi shots into the victim. I am against control however because , they are not effective at curtailing crime. The answer I think is security.
banning High capacity clips wont help either. They simply attach 3 of them together , slows fire a little but not enough to matter in a situation like the last one.
He could have used a single shot 12 gauge and killed as may kids .
Security will be the only answer.

[KittenKoder]

Eagle12 wrote:

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No way, I’m not doing that because I believe he can strike me dead.

That is what we call an irrational fear. We know what causes lightning, as well as why it occurs. It's a natural phenomenon. It also sort of counters your whole "just need faith" argument that a lot of christians use. If you had faith in your god, then you'd not fear testing such a thing, because it would be a really bad way to demonstrate one's existence, killing off the believer and not the unbeliever for the same exact thing, would it not?

Either way, you wind up with a massive contradiction in your beliefs.

[KittenKoder]

wilderide wrote:

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So it must not be true, right? Lol.

Nope, it can't be true, no way I'm admitting I don't get it. So it has to be elves, elves make chemicals react the way they do and scientists just won't admit it because it opposes their whole theory. Yep, it's elves. So I know more than they do.

That was pretty easy, give me another something you "think" I don't know!

[wilderide]

TheBlackSheep wrote:

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This sounds like you are against gun control. If laws are passed, who is going to follow them and who is not?

But that is not to say that laws don't stop people. When you fear the punishment more than you want to do whatever, then you will follow the law.

Didn't your second statement contradict your first?

In any case, I can't imagine why anyone would be against strict gun control. I mean, we regulate and track vehicle registrations with more care than guns, it makes no sense. Moreover, guns are freely available now, and I don't think anyone would argue that is a good situation. So why just throw up our hands because there is no simple solution? Can't we at least try? Is it hopeless?

[wilderide]

Turkey wrote:

<quoted text> A diety put a soul in your aging carcass. You gave up on your search for your maker. He may discard you like a failed chocolate soufle.

Shhh! The adults are talking.

[wilderide]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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You think so?
Example?

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TUGI0DV...

[Aerobatty]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

<quoted text>It doesn't matter. All you call of of us dumb.

It's your trademark comeback....

I usually tell you you're stupid.

Dumb can be confused with the inability to speak, though its not used much that way anymore.

[Aerobatty]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

<quoted text>Yes, of course. That's free will.

Then god doesn't know you will do X.

You're stupid.

[wilderide]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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How about harsher punishments?
Of course drug users don't care about doing drugs, they're not afraid of the penal system...

So the current system doesn't work, yet you think ramping up a broken system up will fix the problem? So let's put alot more people in jail, and make sure every jail is run like Abu Ghraib. What could go wrong, right?

Who is going to pay for all the extra jails and associated overhead? You?

[Aerobatty]

wilderide wrote:

<quoted text>Didn't your second statement contradict your first?

In any case, I can't imagine why anyone would be against strict gun control. I mean, we regulate and track vehicle registrations with more care than guns, it makes no sense. Moreover, guns are freely available now, and I don't think anyone would argue that is a good situation. So why just throw up our hands because there is no simple solution? Can't we at least try? Is it hopeless?

The gun nuts- and that seems to be a frighteningly apt description-are literally afraid that if they have to register their weapons, that someday jack booted, body armor wearing government thugs are going to batter down their doors and confiscate their precioussssss.

[Clementia]

TIDE, TIDE, TIIIIIDDDDDDDE, IS IT ABOUT THE NUMBER 0? TELL ME THAT IT'S ABOUT A NUMBER????

Is your other poem a riddle, too? I'll have a look at that tomorrow, I want to get this one first.

[TheBlackSheep]

wilderide wrote:

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Didn't your second statement contradict your first?

Didn't your arguments conflict? Didn't you say, "that you can't pass laws against things you don't like and expect that to get rid of it."?

wilderide wrote:

In any case, I can't imagine why anyone would be against strict gun control. I mean, we regulate and track vehicle registrations with more care than guns, it makes no sense. Moreover, guns are freely available now, and I don't think anyone would argue that is a good situation. So why just throw up our hands because there is no simple solution? Can't we at least try? Is it hopeless?

One, you are comparing a right with a privileged. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say that we have a right to transportation. No country has ever terrorized it's people with a car.
And yes, you do have many laws concerning autos but our licenses are control at the state level.
Drug are not a right nor a privileged and there are many laws against producing, distributing, and using; has that stopped the flow of drugs?

No. Because you don't like guns, you feel you have the right to amend my rights. You don't really want to talk it out; you want to end them or some of them, right now! No discussion! No compromise! Nothing but stomping your feet.

Since you cannot imagine why, no one should. How fucking arrogant is that?

Anytime anyone wishes to discuss the issue, I will be more than happy.

[Turkey]

wilderide wrote:

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What does that have to do with God and free will?
If God knows you will do X, can you do Y instead?

Gas grass or cock, no one rides free ...wildridddddeeeeeee

[_BobLoblah_]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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HA!
How do you figure?
Evolution happens, I agree. That is a proven fact, it's ToE that's bullshit.
The Theory of Evolution is based on the assumption that ALL life on Earth came from one single-celled organism.
Prove it.

03Jan13.....

.....and WHO made the single-celled organism???

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah

[KittenKoder]

_BobLoblah_ wrote:

<quoted text>03Jan13.....
.....and WHO made the single-celled organism???
Forever and Ever
BobLoblah

You assume two things, that it was made and didn't come into existence through other means, and that there was a "who" involved.

[Aura Mytha]

KittenKoder wrote:

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You assume two things, that it was made and didn't come into existence through other means, and that there was a "who" involved.

I didn't do it and whoever said I did is lying!

[TheBlackSheep]

Hollywood A-listers called hypocrites on issue of gun violence in ‘Demand a Plan’ response video

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/01/...

Several big-name Hollywood stars appear in a new anti-gun public service YouTube video calling for Americans to demand that their elected officials come up with a strategy to curb gun violence.

In the video, A-listers like Cameron Diaz, Paul Rudd, and Chris Rock read the names of the sites of the most horrific gun massacres before calling on viewers to “demand a plan” to stop mass shootings.

But now a new video called “Demand a Plan – Demand Celebrities Go F*** Themselves” has been created that highlights the gun violence many of these same stars have taken part in in their movies and television shows.