Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#146995 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Maybe you should think about the atheist need to cherrypick.
Y'all are experts at it.
The funny thing is, you cherrypick a bible and a religion you claim to not believe in.
Rational people would call that a waste of time.
Ehm, you were the one cherry picking, donít try the christian incredulity at being caught out on me, it does not wash.

No, I quote the babble EXACTLY as it is written and thatís what p|sses you off so much when exact wording totally screws with your time travelling interpretation

So you claim itís a waste of time to defend ones belief Ė say what???
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#146997 Jan 3, 2013
Everything we discover turns out to be "not magic".
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
"so far all evidence suggests it everything is the result of natural interactions"?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#146998 Jan 3, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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And because guns were freely available Lanza and Holmes killed at will. Who gives a toss about you, you selfish moron, my concern is for innocent and unarmed children, not gung ho gun nuts with an immortality fixation
But of course had someone been armed then a shootout would have been out of the question - right? You moron
You have no idea of how I consider self defence, your ignorance is down to simple minded idiocy but that is accepted from a person of your obviously limited intellect
You don't get it.

Criminals & psychos will get guns whether or not they're legal or readily available.

How do you know that Lanza wouldn't have used a car to do the same crime had he not had guns?

Cars are deadly, they kill people, not the drivers.

Cars are weapons....

Dumb ass.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#146999 Jan 3, 2013
Clearly you prefer guns than not living in the most murderous country of the West.

Your choice, not mine.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Stupid.
Because I have guns, Lanza and Holmes WOULD NOT KILL ME....
You have no understanding of self defense?
No matter what, crazies will have guns.
I have guns to protect myself against them.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#147000 Jan 3, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Is that some kind of macho threat?
I am not the one so concerned about my own safety, thatís you, you selfish moron
Not concerned about your safety?

Don't wear seat belts?

Don't use a handrail on stairs?

Don't look both ways before crossing the street?

Don't lock your doors at night?

uh-huh...

You're concerned about your safety, you just don't like guns. Admit it.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#147001 Jan 3, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Ehm, you were the one cherry picking, donít try the christian incredulity at being caught out on me, it does not wash.
No, I quote the babble EXACTLY as it is written and thatís what p|sses you off so much when exact wording totally screws with your time travelling interpretation
So you claim itís a waste of time to defend ones belief Ė say what???
Yes, you quote the (version you want) of the bible exactly as it was written.

BUT - You don't understand the meaning of what you're quoting.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#147002 Jan 3, 2013
No I don't. Where the hell do you live?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Don't lock your doors at night?
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#147003 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't get it.
Criminals & psychos will get guns whether or not they're legal or readily available.
Agreed. But the evidence here is gun massacres can still happen but become less frequent with an assult weapon ban.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#147004 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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BUT - You don't understand the meaning of what you're quoting.
And how do you interpret. Conservative Catholics blindly follow the rulings of the church. Protestants do what? Make it up as they go allow. That is why you have 34000+ sects.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#147005 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't get it.
Criminals & psychos will get guns whether or not they're legal or readily available.
How do you know that Lanza wouldn't have used a car to do the same crime had he not had guns?
Cars are deadly, they kill people, not the drivers.
Cars are weapons....
Dumb ass.
Cars are designed to transport people not kill them. Guns are designed to kill things.

The pro-gun nutters don't have any valid arguments for their position. Its a fact.

I personally think that everyone who is pro-gun should be round up and put in prison, because they intend to carry dangerous weapons in society and cause a danger to innocent citizens that don't want killing machines in their community.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#147006 Jan 3, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
Cars are designed to transport people not kill them. Guns are designed to kill things.
1/2 right. Cars are designed to transport people not kill them. Guns are designed to launch a projectile at high velocity on an intended trajectory.

If you are stupid enough to think that guns are designed to kill, then you're stupid enough to think that pencils are designed to misspell words.
The pro-gun nutters don't have any valid arguments for their position. Its a fact.
See above.
I personally think that everyone who is pro-gun should be round up and put in prison, because they intend to carry dangerous weapons in society and cause a danger to innocent citizens that don't want killing machines in their community.
Too bad you ain't never gonna get your way. I've fired thousands of round and never killed anything. In what way am I a "killing machine"?

Why are you so afraid?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#147007 Jan 3, 2013
Adam wrote:
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Agreed. But the evidence here is gun massacres can still happen but become less frequent with an assult weapon ban.
OK, ban the assault guns, Holmes still had his shotgun & pistols.
(And nobody in the audience did, they had no way of defense)

And Lanza used pistols (And none of the teachers or staff were armed. Again, no way of defense.)

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#147008 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Yes He does. God knows everything.

You're stupider.
Then you have no free will.

"Stupider" is not a word.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#147009 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>You don't get it.

Criminals & psychos will get guns whether or not they're legal or readily available.

How do you know that Lanza wouldn't have used a car to do the same crime had he not had guns?

Cars are deadly, they kill people, not the drivers.

Cars are weapons....

Dumb ass.
So you're reversing your previous statements that guns don't kill people. People do?

You now recognize that guns kill people?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#147010 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Not concerned about your safety?

Don't wear seat belts?

Don't use a handrail on stairs?

Don't look both ways before crossing the street?

Don't lock your doors at night?

uh-huh...

You're concerned about your safety, you just don't like guns. Admit it.
I like guns.

I don't NEED guns.

And I obviously don't like them anywhere near as much as you.

If I had the money for a gun, there are countless other things I'd rather have.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#147011 Jan 3, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Creationists show their desperation when they spam the atheist forums with their ridiculous nonsense.
No proof of god, the only duty of a creationist online should be to sh*t the f*ck up and get a basic science education.
They should pass a law in the states for every creationist to be force-taught evolution. Anyone who doesn't want to learn or accept evolution should be labelled as a dishonest liar in their permanent record (unless they are mentally incapable).
My Dear Skeptic, Thank you for your kind and thoughtful suggestions. You are always careful to select your words so as not to appear as a radical militant. Your kindness to your fellow humanity overwhelms me.

All of us have a respectful appreciation of science and research. From space research to medical science. It is all appreciated and supported by our tax dollars and donations.

As a separate issue, we that are free people have a fundamental right to religious freedom. A right given to us by our forefathers who framed the Constitution.

ďWe hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.Ē

Iím here my good friend because I find Atheist fascinating and interesting company.

May you have a good day my friend,[Tipping Hat]

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#147013 Jan 3, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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I like guns.
I don't NEED guns.
And I obviously don't like them anywhere near as much as you.
If I had the money for a gun, there are countless other things I'd rather have.
I have never shot anyone and hope that I can live my life without ever having to do so.

I have enjoyed target shooting. And I have never used a target thatís a silhouette of a human. I purposely donít buy the human silhouettes because of my own personal convictions.

Guns can serve a dual purpose. One for sport and the other for personal protection in ones own home. There are lots of mindless thugs that are sexual predators targeting women and children. Today they are more brazen and bold.

A persons home should be a safe haven from hoodlums. The Bible says,ďThe violent take by force.Ē I think a man should be able to defend himself and his family at all cost.

I too could live without a gun. But I choose not too because itís a fundamental right given to us in the Bill of Rights. If you live in a city with an excellent police response time then perhaps you donít need a gun.

But sometimes things go South such as with a natural disaster. Then the Police protection could be days if not weeks away. These disasters bring the best and worst out of people. One must be able to defend and protect his life and family.

To those who donít feel comfortable with guns. I would suggest,ďFox Labs Pepper Spray.Ē

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#147014 Jan 3, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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That is your choice but when it all goes titsup and some raving nutcase with the same attitude as you shoots ďyourĒ child dead think about it again
Recognizing reality qualifies one as a "nutcase"? Being prepared for any eventually to survive transforms me into the equivalent of a child killer? Good luck to you if the shit ever hits the fan in your lifetime.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#147015 Jan 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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If humanity was actually like that, we'd have died off before even having a chance. The other animals like to eat humans, when they are not outnumbered and organized.
The ability to work together in order to survive or defeat a common threat is perfectly natural. The ability to recognize that an act accordingly doesn't translate to being civilized.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#147016 Jan 3, 2013
Freebird USA wrote:
<quoted text> The ability to work together in order to survive or defeat a common threat is perfectly natural. The ability to recognize that an act accordingly doesn't translate to being civilized.
Actually, it does. Social traits are evolved traits, and favored ones include cooperation, empathy, and caring about others of the same species. That is why several species exhibit the same level of caring for each other that we do.

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