Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story
Turkey

Oswego, NY

#146887 Jan 2, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Evolution didn't produce atoms.
A diety put a soul in your aging carcass. You gave up on your search for your maker. He may discard you like a failed chocolate soufle.

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#146888 Jan 2, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Well, to be fair, most of your arguments against known science are from incredulity.
You think so?

Example?

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#146889 Jan 2, 2013
WesTheDuck wrote:
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Maybe people would stop calling you dumb if you stopped saying dumb things.
It doesn't matter. All you call of of us dumb.

It's your trademark comeback....
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#146890 Jan 2, 2013
Good book. Saw Ben with Prof Cox and Robin Ince. Great guy.
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Ben Goldacre's book Bad Science...
http://www.badscience.net/
won't explain all the propaganda by those who are superstitious as fast as they can produce it, but his book helps. Well, it helps if you are objectively and rationally following the evidence without a personal agenda and without an inherently supestitious way of thinking.
Dr Goldacre has now had a new book published: Bad Pharma.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Pharma
(Real proof? Lol!)

Since: Jul 12

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#146891 Jan 2, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Drug laws are a perfect example the fact that you can't pass laws against things you don't like and expect that to get rid of it. The only thing our drugs laws have managed to do is funnel money to prisons and drug cartels. Regulate drugs. Take the profit margin out of it, and stop sending people to jail only to train them to be better criminals by the time they are released.
How about harsher punishments?

Of course drug users don't care about doing drugs, they're not afraid of the penal system...

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#146892 Jan 2, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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What does that have to do with God and free will?
If God knows you will do X, can you do Y instead?
Yes, of course. That's free will.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#146893 Jan 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yup. You people all have the same comeback:
"You're dumb."
Well if you weren't, we wouldn't.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#146894 Jan 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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It doesn't matter. All you call of of us dumb.
It's your trademark comeback....
We can't help that you been dumb is your trademark

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#146895 Jan 2, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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I don't think Adam met the snake; it was Eve who saw talking snakes.
Prove it! lol

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#146896 Jan 2, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Evolution didn't produce atoms.
The evolution of matter/energy did.
LorenEberly

Mount Gilead, OH

#146897 Jan 2, 2013
Shame:

Shame on President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members. That swears to defend every American Citizen from foreign and domestic aggression.

That defies USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With same percentage of wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And holds Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands makes it IMPOSSIBLE for President Obama and Congress to avoid fiscal cliff. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old. America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.

“I am but a humble duck.”

Since: Dec 12

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#146898 Jan 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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It doesn't matter. All you call of of us dumb.
It's your trademark comeback....
Maybe I should clarify:

Christians aren't dumb. The stuff that a lot of them say is dumb.

On topic, though: If you don't understand something, you should research it. Scientists aren't as deceptive as Christian propaganda makes them out to be.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#146899 Jan 2, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> The evolution of matter/energy did.
That is not evolution but transformation. Next you will tells us trees evolve into planks.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#146900 Jan 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!
"evolution is the best answer to explain what is known"
You should quit your day job!
Really? Do you have a better one?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#146901 Jan 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Ya right, like a song can't exist if you know the words.....
What?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#146902 Jan 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Simple. I have awesomeness. You don't

:)
And a gun.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#146903 Jan 2, 2013
I think there are bigger issues regarding violence and instant gratification. It's going to take a long time to sort those out, assuming the issues are accepted.

I don't negative icon you btw.
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> I agree , and they probably kill more often than not , but that's the issue with the person firing multi shots into the victim. I am against control however because , they are not effective at curtailing crime. The answer I think is security.
banning High capacity clips wont help either. They simply attach 3 of them together , slows fire a little but not enough to matter in a situation like the last one.
He could have used a single shot 12 gauge and killed as may kids .
Security will be the only answer.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#146904 Jan 2, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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No way, I’m not doing that because I believe he can strike me dead.
That is what we call an irrational fear. We know what causes lightning, as well as why it occurs. It's a natural phenomenon. It also sort of counters your whole "just need faith" argument that a lot of christians use. If you had faith in your god, then you'd not fear testing such a thing, because it would be a really bad way to demonstrate one's existence, killing off the believer and not the unbeliever for the same exact thing, would it not?

Either way, you wind up with a massive contradiction in your beliefs.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#146905 Jan 2, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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So it must not be true, right? Lol.
Nope, it can't be true, no way I'm admitting I don't get it. So it has to be elves, elves make chemicals react the way they do and scientists just won't admit it because it opposes their whole theory. Yep, it's elves. So I know more than they do.

That was pretty easy, give me another something you "think" I don't know!

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#146906 Jan 2, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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This sounds like you are against gun control. If laws are passed, who is going to follow them and who is not?

But that is not to say that laws don't stop people. When you fear the punishment more than you want to do whatever, then you will follow the law.
Didn't your second statement contradict your first?

In any case, I can't imagine why anyone would be against strict gun control. I mean, we regulate and track vehicle registrations with more care than guns, it makes no sense. Moreover, guns are freely available now, and I don't think anyone would argue that is a good situation. So why just throw up our hands because there is no simple solution? Can't we at least try? Is it hopeless?

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