Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

[Aerobatty]

ChristineM wrote:

<quoted text>Definition SERPENT - A large snake.

Your INTERPRETATION is simply your INTERPRETATION

There is no evidence, it is not written it is just what YOU believe deal with it

I bet he had trouble giving up his teddy bear, too.

[RiversideRedneck]

Aerobatty wrote:

<quoted text>
Yeah.
Ok.
*I* need to get a grip.
Sure.

You're learning!

[wilderide]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

<quoted text>
England would disagree with you.
Just sayin.

I'm not talking about England. Interesting you'd point that out though, as it would seem to undermine your point about gun control.

[RiversideRedneck]

WesTheDuck wrote:

<quoted text>
So, he didn't "transform" into a snake? How was he one, then? Does he have a snake-clone or something like that?

I don't know how Satan appeared as a snake.

Do you?

[RiversideRedneck]

ChristineM wrote:

However in the babble it DOES NOT say ANYWHERE that the serpent was satan – NOT ANYWHERE

ugh...

Revelation 12:9

"And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."

See that?

"that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan"

NOT ANYWHERE, huh?

[RiversideRedneck]

ChristineM wrote:

<quoted text>
Don’t seem that way, you appear to want anyone and everyone to be armed
Don’t seem to matter to you whether they are murderers or not.
You can’t have it one way for you and another for those you don’t want.

You moron.

Having people armed and wanting chldren dead are completely different things.

[-Skeptic-]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

RiversideRedneck wrote:
Nothing in the OT has been disproven, nothing. You are mistaken.
<quoted text>
um.....
Is that your idea of disproof?

Fossils disprove the bible story, so does straight up logic and reason.

The fact is that you have no proof of god and are here to sell us your religion, while being immoral and untruthful about it.

[WesTheDuck]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

RiversideRedneck wrote:
Nothing in the OT has been disproven, nothing. You are mistaken.

It's official. He's crazy.

("Whereupon are the foundations [of the earth] thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;" - Job 38:6)

[-Skeptic-]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

<quoted text>
I don't know how Satan appeared as a snake.
Do you?

There's no such thing as satan or god. You can't invent creatures and make intelligent people fear them.

[-Skeptic-]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

<quoted text>
ugh...
Revelation 12:9
"And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."
See that?
"that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan"
NOT ANYWHERE, huh?

Words of a rambling idiot, palmed off a absolute truth without a shred of evidence.

[WesTheDuck]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

<quoted text>
I don't know how Satan appeared as a snake.
Do you?

No, because he didn't appear as a snake, because no one ever SAID he appeared as one.

[-Skeptic-]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

<quoted text>
You moron.
Having people armed and wanting chldren dead are completely different things.

But one results in the other. Its a pity that creationists lack a function in their brain that allows them to add up facts.

Actually the fact part is missing altogether.

[wilderide]

TheBlackSheep wrote:

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I do believe that the federal government should not be in our daily lives

...followed by...

Morality is based on the society in which you live, so while I do not believe that it is the governments right or responsibility to dictate morality, it still has to make laws on morality.

Well, so much for wishing the government out of your daily life then.

Such as, Americans, in general, do not believe that we can kill our daughters for dishonoring the family. It seems that some nations are quite OK with this practice. What do we do? Do we make a law against murder or do we say that each individual has the right to their own morals.

Obviously in a civil society you must have laws which apply to everyone.

If you believe that honor killing is morally right, then you are pissed that the government is dictating your morality. But if you believe that murder is wrong, then you want to live in a society that punishes murders.

True. But the sticky part is for society to determine what murder is. And that changes over time. Is abortion murder? Is euthanasia? If you kill someone in self-defense? Ect ect.

[WesTheDuck]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

<quoted text>
ugh...
Revelation 12:9
"And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."
See that?
"that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan"
NOT ANYWHERE, huh?

RR! We've been over this!

Jesus called the pharisees serpents! BECAUSE IT IS A KNOWN INSULT FROM THE TIME! You need to demonstrate that this verse is not using "serpent" as an insult - which you or any honest theologian has yet to do.

[RiversideRedneck]

Adam wrote:

<quoted text>
This quote sums up nicely what I think of revelation...
"Religion is not provided to us by revelation, it doesn't come from the heavens, it doesn't come from the beyond, it doesn't come from the divine. It's man-made. And it shows. It shows very well - that religion is created, invented, imposed by a species half a chromosome away from the chimpanzee."

You think because Hitchens said it, it must be true?

Go figure you'd quote a socialist pig like him.

[RiversideRedneck]

wilderide wrote:

<quoted text>
I'm not talking about England. Interesting you'd point that out though, as it would seem to undermine your point about gun control.

Why?

Even with a national gun ban (even for the police), England has a higher firearm crime rate per capita than the US....

[Aerobatty]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

<quoted text>You're learning!

Too bad that you're not.

[RiversideRedneck]

-Skeptic- wrote:

<quoted text>
There's no such thing as satan or god. You can't invent creatures and make intelligent people fear them.

I didn't create any creatures....

There's no such thing as God or Satan, huh?

Care to back up that assertion?

Or are we to simply trust you.

[RiversideRedneck]

WesTheDuck wrote:

No, because he didn't appear as a snake, because no one ever SAID he appeared as one.

Then how did the serpent speak?

And why are you ignoring your ignorant post about Revelation 12:9?

[RiversideRedneck]

-Skeptic- wrote:

<quoted text>
Fossils disprove the bible story, so does straight up logic and reason.
The fact is that you have no proof of god and are here to sell us your religion, while being immoral and untruthful about it.

Fossils, huh?

Just like that.

You say one word and ***POOF*** the Bible is disproven.

Try again, Septic.