Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#146174 Dec 31, 2012
Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>Creationist BS site. now find some real peer reviewed documentation.

Chirp
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So now you're the teacher asking for our references. No discussion allowed
Teacher "little dick" say so.

Enforce your rule. LOL.

What a Dip SH)T

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#146175 Dec 31, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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18 Evidences of either massive flooding and erosion, extremely rapid layering of strata, or direct evidence of a Worldwide Flood.
Polystrate Fossils:
The Fossils Themselves:
Clastic Dikes:
Mt. St. Helens:
Palouse Canyon:
Observations at an Australian Beach:
Spontaneous Sorting of Layers:
Turbidity Currents:
Extensive Strata and Pancake Layering:
A "Whale" of a Fossil:
More Fossil Whales:
Marine Fossils In The Mountains:
Frozen Mammoths:
Fissures In The Rocks:
Erratic Boulders:
The Black Sea Speaks:
Worldwide Chaos and Out of Order Fossils:
www.earthage.org/.../scientific_evidence_for_...
I have my own "evidence", too. Read it before you argue...
18 evidences? Sorry, but there are thousands of them that contradict a worldwide flood (at least one that happened during human history). On top of this, most "evidence" that is cited towards a worldwide flood is natural occurring phenomena, and the rest is deceptive or downright untrue.

I'd love to read your rehash of the same old and failed arguments, but the link does not work.

How about you read some of mine? http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark...

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messi...

http://www.middletownjournal.com/news/lifesty...

http://members.shaw.ca/tfrisen/evolution/Crea...

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#146176 Dec 31, 2012
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah. IMHO it's even more embarrassing to have your religious hypocrisy pointed out to you by a non-believer than otherwise.

[QUOTE]Aint that a freaking tub full of Russian hot runny cowshitskys?
Cowboy if you are going to preach to me. You damn sure better be believing in Christ as God of all Gods and the creator of all life."

Nope. I'm my observation is correct. My skepticism has nothing whatever to do with it.

[QUOTE]Since you took the liberty to use scripture that you don’t believe."

Is the scripture not correct if quoted by an atheist? Lol.

[QUOTE] Let me refer you to Acts 19:13-20 that I do believe.
King James Version (KJV)
13 Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.
14 And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so.
15 And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
16 And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.
So I ask you a question,, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
In other words it’s saying,“Who in the f*ck are you?”
Did not Jesus get a bull whip and whip some ass one day?
Don’t preach to me Wildride.
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So Paul was wrong in Galatians? Interesting.
Those who twist Scripture will twist any or all of the Bible, but they will often base their teachings on an obscure or problematic text. Peter acknowledges that some of Paul’s writings are “difficult to understand”(verse 16). These seem to be the starting point for the truth twisters. They begin with a problematic passage, developing their unorthodox doctrines, and then turn to the clear, emphatic texts, denying what they dogmatically teach.

False teachers do not stop with Paul’s writings but distort the Scriptures as a whole. Problem passages written by Paul are only the tip of the iceberg. These perverters of Scripture do not stop here; they are not content unless they have twisted “the rest of the Scriptures” as well. Since the Scriptures agree, then one who sets aside the teaching of one author must, to be consistent, set aside other texts as well.

Those who twist Scripture are described by Peter as “untaught and unstable.” The term “untaught” is rendered “ignorant” by the translators of the King James Version. The two terms “untaught” and “unstable” are introduced by a common article. This seems to indicate these two terms are to be viewed as interrelated. Like “love and marriage,” these terms go together “like a horse and carriage.” In other words, those who are “untaught” are “unstable,” and those who are “unstable” are also “untaught.”
And atheist love to twist Scripture.
So they are by Biblical accounts are indeed "unstable" and "untaught" or "ignorant".

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Since: Mar 12

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#146178 Dec 31, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Oh ya, that one under Her Majesty, The Queen?
LMMFAO!
Don't worry, if the jihads attack you, America's got your back.
I love to see you display your ignorance.

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Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#146179 Dec 31, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>hmmm, maybe this www.earthage.org/.../scientific_evidence_for_...
Try this.

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/6flood.htm

Happy new year.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#146180 Dec 31, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Because it makes sense.
Again, which part did you find to be BS?
I have already given you why, but simple math is beyond you.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#146181 Dec 31, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You're mistakenly under the assumption that we want guns to kill people with....
Guns are designed to do two things kill and wound.

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#146182 Dec 31, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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Try this.
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/6flood.htm
Happy new year.
Oooh, thank you. You've given me another website to direct religious nutjobs to!:P

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#146183 Dec 31, 2012
Langoliers wrote:
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Oneway around the gun issues in the US is just out law ammo.
Guns without bullet are of little use.
Ammo can be bought and used at the rifle range but every bullet accounted for.
But then you're back to if ammo was outlawed then only outlaws would have ammo.
Too tough I'm afraid to get this issue right.
This could help - more police stop the small crimes and you will stop the bigger crime. It's call nipping it in the bud. Don't let the little hoodlums get away with the small stuff and and then there in the system and patterns tend to kick in.
Yep.

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#146184 Dec 31, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Oh, no....
Not evidence?!?
What will the athitards do now?
(I'll bet 50 bucks that they'll shit talk those scientists & say they're not "real" scientists....)
Ooooh, Yeah!! Francis Collins is one of the brightest Scientists ever, and it is his knowledge that has done amazing things purely because he "CRACKED THE GENOME CODE".

Revelation 13:18 KJV Revelation 13:18

King James Version (KJV)

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six..........

Matthew 10:30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered

Luke 12:7 But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered

..........

Number ***a. A member of the set of positive integers; one of a series of symbols of unique meaning in a fixed order that can be derived by counting.***

People question how 666 fits into the picture, and in my opinion, and after much consideration, I believe the 666 ~ and being Man(kind) although in a lot of instances the (kind) had been dropped comes from Genesis 6:6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart; and the next Scripture, which is also a 6 makes the 3rd 6 and all to do with man(kind) 6:7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

I do what study I can, on my own terms as such, and believe that this is indeed the 666 of man, if not for anyone else, but then at least for me, and the numbers in our hair have been proven, and so many other things that I could point out, but don't have time or space :)

Numbers are reliable, but words are magical!! Happy 2013; let it bring forth all the hope of tomorrow in each day that we live..

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#146185 Dec 31, 2012
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Ooooh, Yeah!! Francis Collins is one of the brightest Scientists ever, and it is his knowledge that has done amazing things purely because he "CRACKED THE GENOME CODE".
Revelation 13:18 KJV Revelation 13:18
King James Version (KJV)
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six..........
Matthew 10:30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered
Luke 12:7 But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered
..........
Number ***a. A member of the set of positive integers; one of a series of symbols of unique meaning in a fixed order that can be derived by counting.***
People question how 666 fits into the picture, and in my opinion, and after much consideration, I believe the 666 ~ and being Man(kind) although in a lot of instances the (kind) had been dropped comes from Genesis 6:6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart; and the next Scripture, which is also a 6 makes the 3rd 6 and all to do with man(kind) 6:7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
I do what study I can, on my own terms as such, and believe that this is indeed the 666 of man, if not for anyone else, but then at least for me, and the numbers in our hair have been proven, and so many other things that I could point out, but don't have time or space :)
Numbers are reliable, but words are magical!! Happy 2013; let it bring forth all the hope of tomorrow in each day that we live..
Actually, we know what the meaning of "666" or "616."



This video explains it pretty simply. It's honestly one of the cooler aspects of the Bible, in my opinion. It's kind of like a code or a riddle, but it doesn't hold any particular meaning to us today because it wasn't meant for us.

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#146186 Dec 31, 2012
Repented ~ "To feel remorse, contrition, or self-reproach for what one has done or failed to do;"

Many laugh at Noah, but if Noah had not been around, who knows what could have happened. GOD has given us much, and for reasons, and when the link is strong between GOD and our Soul, when we can feel that link, we understand. Simple :)

GOD must have berated HIMSELF over and over and over, and I don't know how HE can bear the cruelty that HE must witness, but I do know why HE wants to stop it.

Laughter is our best medicine, so they have been saying for, and I am posting this;

***"Laughter is the best medicine" : that's the theme for today's celebration.

Like many of our sayings, I think this one started off in the Bible. Proverbs 17:22 says something similar: "A cheerful or merry heart is good medicine" (whichever version you happen to be reading)...

http://www.oamweb.com/religious/oznan/laughte... ***

and also this;

*** Laughter is regularly promoted as a source of health and well being, but it has been hard to pin down exactly why laughing until it hurts feels so good.

The answer, reports Robin Dunbar, an evolutionary psychologist at Oxford, is not the intellectual pleasure of cerebral humor, but the physical act of laughing. The simple muscular exertions involved in producing the familiar ha, ha, ha, he said, trigger an increase in endorphins, the brain chemicals known for their feel-good effect.

His results build on a long history of scientific attempts to understand a deceptively simple and universal behavior.Laughter is very weird stuff, actually, Dr. Dunbar said.Thats why we got interested in it. And the findings fit well with a growing sense that laughter contributes to group bonding and may have been important in the evolution of highly social humans.

Social laughter, Dr. Dunbar suggests, relaxed and contagious, is grooming at a distance, an activity that fosters closeness in a group the way one-on-one grooming, patting and delousing promote and maintain bonds between individual primates of all sorts.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/14/science/14l... ***

It was written in the Bible that Laughter is good for our Health, and now they have proven it is so.

Not all is as it seems, and if we are given information, we should seek why, and seek an answer, to the best of our ability. Some will run off and try and prove all of this wrong, others will accept it as perhaps something they didn't know, and others would have already known it. Our actions from knowledge takes us to learning.... and defines the path we walk :)

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#146187 Dec 31, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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So you are going to make a veiled not true Scotsman fallacy.
The main point is that if you need a 24-7 babysitter to do what's right, then you are mentally unstable and incapable of living on your own anyway, because that means you have desires to hurt other people.
No Kitty, I don't need a 24-7 babysitter to do what's right, I just do it. Temptation is perhaps something we all have, and I know for a fact that I have made many mistakes in my life. Repenting is a way of wiping the slate clean by asking for forgiveness for things that we have done in the past, not for what we intend to do in the future? I shoplifted as a teenager and got caught, but even if I hadn't got caught, I wouldn't have carried it on because the guilt was unbearable.

Each time I recall these things I ask for forgiveness ~ I no longer need to take them with me into my tomorrow, I am busy enough removing that which has been done.

GOD is with me, but my actions are my own, determined by my own personal and Spiritual goals ~ I want to have us much good stuff packed into my Vessel as possible when I too, give up my ghost and move into the next Realm, the next experience.

We are who we are....

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#146188 Dec 31, 2012
WesTheDuck wrote:
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Actually, we know what the meaning of "666" or "616."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =UkZqFtYtqaIXX
This video explains it pretty simply. It's honestly one of the cooler aspects of the Bible, in my opinion. It's kind of like a code or a riddle, but it doesn't hold any particular meaning to us today because it wasn't meant for us.
I don't have time to watch it, but I have heard a lot on 666 and different interpretations; some can show it in the barcodes on products although I am always a bit lost with that one :)

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#146189 Dec 31, 2012
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>I don't have time to watch it, but I have heard a lot on 666 and different interpretations; some can show it in the barcodes on products although I am always a bit lost with that one :)
Let me summarize it for you: Hebrews, Romans, etc., use their letters as numbers, too. The letters that spell out "Neron," or Nero, who was the ruler when Paul wrote his letters (and was also incredibly cruel to cultists/early Christians) add up to 666 if spelling Neron (what the Hebrews called Nero) or 616 for Nero. They used it as a sort of code, if you will.

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#146190 Dec 31, 2012
WesTheDuck wrote:
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Let me summarize it for you: Hebrews, Romans, etc., use their letters as numbers, too. The letters that spell out "Neron," or Nero, who was the ruler when Paul wrote his letters (and was also incredibly cruel to cultists/early Christians) add up to 666 if spelling Neron (what the Hebrews called Nero) or 616 for Nero. They used it as a sort of code, if you will.
Ahhhhhh; that make sense :)

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#146191 Dec 31, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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I am not on all that much either, so I understand that. It is just a tread that I noticed. When you hit a believer with some tough questions, ones that they cannot simply deny, such as the fossil record, or carbon dating, they say, "I am too busy right now to answer, but I really want to!" It turns out that they are just BSing me, stalling until the subject is forgotten.
No BS, it's not true, I have been extremely busy, saving souls... lol I shall post tonight. It is New Year's Eve in 10 minutes. It's safer to stay home with all the 'Party People' on the road... than it is to go out... Happy New Year 2013. I wish you and yours only the best!:)

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#146192 Jan 1, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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I respect you and Richard's opinions; what would you have us do?
What do we do if the government, as so many have done in the past, becomes too corrupt? With the 99%'er out there, the switch to socialism is not too far in our future.
What will you do during a disaster? Most people that I have seen have handled things quite well, but what happens when someone decides that they need your food more than you?
I don't dwell on these two issue much, not very much at all, but I would like to be ready to handle them, when they happen. If I am not mistaken, history does tell us that they will happen.
You are, from what I can tell from your posts, a very intelligent person; how many governments disarmed their people to better control them? How many of those were what we would call, good governments?
I can only think of three, rather small, island nations. Granted, Australia is about the same size as the contiguous states, but few live too far from the coast. And Australia has about 10% of the U.S.'s population.
I completely agree!

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#146193 Jan 1, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
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Guns are designed to do two things kill and wound.
Horse shit , you are describing "possible uses" ,
but these are not the "only uses".

Guns are designed to fire projectiles as accurately as possible at a target period. Some are specifically designed to shoot at targets as it's main function , others specifically to fire very quickly at targets.

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#146194 Jan 1, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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I am quite used to people being too,'busy', to reply to my posts.
Snevaeh legna wrote:
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Hi, I haven't forgot you, I just got a little busy today...:)
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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1) The snake handlers brag that they handle deadly snakes for god.
Answer- My snake died... The Vet couldn't save it...

2) Every sect claims that the holy spirit came to them.
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Answer- I'm not every sect, I'm the daughter of 'God Almighty', who was filled with the Holy Spirit after a Baptism in Anaheim, CA. I was 21. To choose not to believe me, is okay, it's a hard thing to comprehend. Again, it was no delusion. I wasn't the only one...

3) You cannot change the definition of a word to suit your beliefs:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rel ...
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Answer- If you say so...

4)I don't believe that there is even one case of proven faith healing and many cases where a person died trying, mostly defenseless children.
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Answer- There's been several. I will find them for you..I was a child, healed of a lump that required immediate surgery, my grandmother laid her hands on it,(in the name of Jesus) and it went away within 24 hours.. Doctors were baffled...

5)Indoctrination, you loved and revered your grandmother, so you believed what she taught you.
Answer- That might be one way to look at it... I have questioned her for many things concerning God... I Even told her that I did not believe in God, saying, it can't be true, it's not logical. But God went after me, just like I am doing to you...
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6)Didn't jesus turn water into wine? Choosing not to drink has nothing to do with religion.
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Answer- Yes he did, and choosing not to drink is personal, on the other hand, if I cause an alcoholic to stumble, or if I were to get drunk, and act foolish,...that person might think that's how Christians can act...Some of my Christian friends drink, I don't... I also don't judge, because I, don't want to be judged.

7)And because there are a lot of nasty things in there that you are required to do!
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Answer- Now you lost me on this one. Can you elaborate on what bad things in the Bible, I'm supposed to do?

8)Sounds a wee bit on the arrogant side, but... Well, just maybe I can get you to read your bible more, read up and some history and science.
Answer- Not arrogant, just confident. Okay, What would you have me read? I also like am a fan of 'Science& History'

TBS, Please don't get so caught up in mans interpretation of what God wrote in the Bible. It would confuse anyone. God wants your heart, not your head. What ever you choose to believe, makes no difference in the way I feel about you, or anyone else. I would still call you friend...

ps. I do agree with you about our gun rights...:)

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