Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#146056 Dec 31, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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How ever did you guess?
ESP

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#146057 Dec 31, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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Na nanny boo boo, you can't stop me.
[Sticking tounge out]. Thhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......
You are very childish, not childlike, just childish. The funny part is the way you keep demanding respect, grow up.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#146058 Dec 31, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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While our countries have a lot of similarities, we do have some major differences.
How many people in your country vs the US?
How many of those people immigrated from a country with strict gun laws?
What are the differences in hunting? I grew up in Pennsylvania; the first day of deer season was a basically state holiday.
I worry a lot more about losing our freedoms, one by one, than I care about firearms.
"The New York Times has referred to Australia's gun laws as a "road map" for the US, saying that "in the 18 years before the law, Australia suffered 13 mass shootings - but not one in the 14 years after the law took full effect."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-17/us-urge...
UiDiotRacesMAkeW orldPeace

United States

#146059 Dec 31, 2012
Happy New Year All!

“ IT'S A CHOICE !!!”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#146060 Dec 31, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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I am quite used to people being too,'busy', to reply to my posts.
Busy, Meaning family, fun, horseback riding, skiing, boating! So much to do in So Cal... It's a beautiful day, get off this thread for awhile, and enjoy! ps.. Your posts are very important to me... Off to make lunch, I'll be back later... By the way, how do most on here post non-stop? That in itself would make anyone angry, with all the negative... God, or not... Life's to short....:) hugs, N.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#146061 Dec 31, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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You missed the comma. "US, guns"
Much like when you read the bible, you only read what you want.
No I didn't.

You said:

"When you are from the hills of Kentucky and the US, guns and god are all you know..."

See the comma?

"When you are from the hills of Kentucky and the US,"

"guns and god are all you know..."

You are implying that if one if rom "the hills of Kentucky and the US" then all they know are gods and guns...

So I ask again, what is "the hills of Kentucky and the US"??

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#146062 Dec 31, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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How could you interpret the facts differently? Geological, archeological, and dendrochronology show no evidence of a world wide flood. This has been hashed out a million times, even the logistics just makes it impossible. So where is your evidence? Aside from the assertion in the bible, that's not evidence, that's called an assertion.
Really? That's your argument?

OK....

eological, archeological, and dendrochronology shows evidence of a world wide flood. This has been hashed out a million times, even the logistics just makes it possible. So where is your evidence?

That was easy.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#146063 Dec 31, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Really? That's your argument?
OK....
eological, archeological, and dendrochronology shows evidence of a world wide flood. This has been hashed out a million times, even the logistics just makes it possible. So where is your evidence?
That was easy.
Proof.
LorenEberly

Sunbury, OH

#146064 Dec 31, 2012
Fiscal Cliff Deadline:

The majority of US the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; insist on electing Obnoxious President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That defies USA Labor, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

Unless President Obama and Congress agree to comply with USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

President and Elected Officials will continue to hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands will bankrupt USA. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old. America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#146065 Dec 31, 2012
Richardfs wrote:
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Proof.
Did you ask Koder the same?

No?

odd......

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#146066 Dec 31, 2012
Richardfs wrote:
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"The New York Times has referred to Australia's gun laws as a "road map" for the US, saying that "in the 18 years before the law, Australia suffered 13 mass shootings - but not one in the 14 years after the law took full effect."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-17/us-urge...
In your own country in 2009, 173 people were mass murdered by arsonist. Not to mention the millions of animals that died in the fires. Perhaps Australia should outlaw, gasoline, flammables, matches, fire starter, lighters, magnifying glass and flint. Your road map needs some more work.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#146067 Dec 31, 2012
Richardfs wrote:
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"The New York Times has referred to Australia's gun laws as a "road map" for the US, saying that "in the 18 years before the law, Australia suffered 13 mass shootings - but not one in the 14 years after the law took full effect."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-17/us-urge...
"The New York Times" all the news that fits,we print.
Sorry the NYT doesn't cut it as a balanced information source when it comes to gun laws as well as other hot button issues.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#146068 Dec 31, 2012
Richardfs wrote:
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Gee, are you talking about buttcrack?
More name calling, I see.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#146069 Dec 31, 2012
Richardfs wrote:
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Chirp
Chirp
Chirp
You are very childish, not childlike, just childish. Grow up.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#146070 Dec 31, 2012
Richardfs wrote:
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The real reason is godbots can't use calculators, if you did you would find no mistakes.
Back to your usual insults I see.

Your hypocrisy is shameful.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#146071 Dec 31, 2012
Freebird USA wrote:
<quoted text> "The New York Times" all the news that fits,we print.
Sorry the NYT doesn't cut it as a balanced information source when it comes to gun laws as well as other hot button issues.
Which news source do you consider sufficiently neutral and objective then?

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#146072 Dec 31, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Did you ask Koder the same?
No?
odd......
No not at all you are making the claim:-

"The Flood happened."

with no proof. I on the other hand have shown:-
Richardfs wrote:
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.....
I will spell it out and type sslloowwllyy for you:-
Data:-
Mt Everest
H= 29029ft
= 29029 x 12
= 348348 inc
Time 40 days and nights
t= 40 days
There are 60 mins in an hour
therefor
t= 40 x 60
= 57600 mins
hence the average rain fall rate around the world on the surface of the ground is:-
Rf = 348348/57600
= 6.04771 inc/min
thus the rain falling on the decks was falling at the rate of:-
= 6.04771 inc/min
Please note that I do not say all the rain required to flood the world fell on the Ark.
However I made a mistake in remembering the mass rate on the decks (I did the original calculations over 12 months ago) it is in fact:-
Mr = 484tonnes per min.
Notwithstanding that the standing water on the decks remains the same.
Which you ignored.

“God of War”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#146073 Dec 31, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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No I didn't.
You said:
"When you are from the hills of Kentucky and the US, guns and god are all you know..."
See the comma?
"When you are from the hills of Kentucky and the US,"
"guns and god are all you know..."
You are implying that if one if rom "the hills of Kentucky and the US" then all they know are gods and guns...
So I ask again, what is "the hills of Kentucky and the US"??
Up there I think they know how to moonshine and make meth labs too?
Just saying...,

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#146074 Dec 31, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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In your own country in 2009, 173 people were mass murdered by arsonist. Not to mention the millions of animals that died in the fires. Perhaps Australia should outlaw, gasoline, flammables, matches, fire starter, lighters, magnifying glass and flint. Your road map needs some more work.
I was talking about firearms not fires, I know you have a problem with reading ..... but.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#146075 Dec 31, 2012
Richardfs wrote:
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"The New York Times has referred to Australia's gun laws as a "road map" for the US, saying that "in the 18 years before the law, Australia suffered 13 mass shootings - but not one in the 14 years after the law took full effect."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-17/us-urge...
ABC 'news' is a very liberal 'news' program, but there are all those points that I made. Also, we have Mexico, with it's problems with drug cartels that you don't have. There are too many differences to make a good comparison.

The three countries that I know of, off the top of my head, that have strict gun laws, are island nations.

For what it is worth, I have entertained several Aussies and Japanese, here in the States and everyone of them has enjoyed the gun range with me. Some who had their children with them, allowed me to teach them gun safety and allowed them to shoot.

Now, just as a sport, the guns are not worth so many innocent lives, but as a right, I am not willing to give that up. There are great reasons behind us having this right and it should not be given up. There are ways of dealing with the issue and forcing law abiding citizens to become defenseless is not one of them.

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